bubsy06:
dri-diddly-iver:
My mate says speed limits only count when there are cameras about
Thats obvious, why make a car which does more than 70mph if the most you can legally do is 70mph??
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Because not everywhere has a 70mph speed limit.
Eric Rambler:
What was that book they used to make us read?
The bible
bjd:
Temporary speed restrictions on motorways in amber with amber flashing lights advisory or compulsory ?
Definitely advisory, but as someone else said, in the event of an incident, it could go against youâŚ
Stop quoting the Highway Code. The clue is in the name. (CODE).
Look at the Road Traffic Act,
That is the law
So the general consensus is i was right ! well i love being right so its all good cheers
Gangan:
Highway code Rule 261You MUST NOT exceed 70 mph (112 km/h), or the maximum speed limit permitted for your vehicle (see Speed limits table). If a lower speed limit is in force, either permanently or temporarily, at road works for example, you MUST NOT exceed the lower limit. On some motorways, mandatory motorway signals (which display the speed within a red ring) are used to vary the maximum speed limit to improve traffic flow. You MUST NOT exceed this speed limit.
Mandatory, end of argument.
Advisory⌠Youâre wrong Iâm afraid.
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MrFlibble:
You may also see signs at the side of the road stating a âmaximum speedâ, particularly on corners on motorways (e.g. the M25 anticlockwise onto the M4 Westbound has a sign saying âMaximum speed 40 mphâ. These are also advisory.
On occasion itâs a good idea to pay attention. Like going in to spaghetti junction off the M6 J6 NB. It said 20, I scoffed and did 30. I almost went through the barrier.
we were running an A Road as if the Hell were after us,but it was just a plain Police Car.
You were too fast. Yes,i replied. Im a good Driver,grown up with Motorsport and im urgend after a Toilet which i find just after im on the Motorway. Just say wot it cost or let me go in the Bushes before it is too late. OK, i got a warning and told to stick to Speed till Motorway.
Then he ask the other âWot shall we do with you?â Said there nothing. he will confess when he is next Time in Church. He had to go to Court,lost License for 2 weeks as Warning for joking when told he was doing un-lawfull,and he also got a heavy Fine for speeding (no points then)
SWEDISH BLUE:
Stop quoting the Highway Code. The clue is in the name. (CODE).
I think you need to read the Highway Code, in particular the introductory section, as you donât seem to understand what it is.
Advisory most times, but âCompulsoryâ if you start seeing gantry cameras flashing⌠
Glen A9:
SWEDISH BLUE:
Stop quoting the Highway Code. The clue is in the name. (CODE).I think you need to read the Highway Code, in particular the introductory section, as you donât seem to understand what it is.
As stated in the highway codeâŚ
Many of the rules are legal requirements. (NOT all)
Such rules are identified by the use of the words MUST/MUST NOT. in addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence,
The Highway Code may be used in evidence in any court proceedings under the TRAFFIC ACT(see Annexe 4 - The road user and the law)
I have the Highway Code in my hand.
IT IS NOT THE LEGAL DOCUMENT.
The legal thing is the ROAD TRAFFIC ACT.
The public arenât expected to read acts of parliament, that is why the Highway Code exists to explain traffic laws in a understandable format as well as giving advice for best practice in driving.
Iâm not sure what your point is, the Highway Code is there to tell the public what the relevant laws laid down in acts are.
Iâm not sure what your point is, the Highway Code is there to tell the public what the relevant laws laid down in acts are.
My point is that the Highway Code is a Code Of Practice. NOT the law.
Perhaps YOU should read âthe introductory sectionâ, as YOU donât seem to understand what it is.
SWEDISH BLUE:
My point is that the Highway Code is a Code Of Practice. NOT the law.
It is a code of practice which tells you what legal requirements are as well as giving advice.
From the introduction:
Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. [âŚ] Such rules are identified by the use of the words âMUST/MUST NOTâ.
In other words the Highway Code tells you what is a legal requirement relating to driving, in addition to other advice which is good practice.
Iâm still not seeing your pointâs relevance to the question about the meaning of a speed displayed on a VMS with flashing amber lights.
The Highway Code explains that it is an advisory speed and doesnât say it is a legal requirement, hence you wonât find any law which says it is a mandatory instruction.
If you really want to quote the law on it, then the Road Traffic Act (primary legislation) will refer you to a statutory instrument (secondary legislation) which defines which road signs are permitted on the roads and what they mean - that is The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions.
Which, funnily enough, says exactly the same thing as the Highway Code.
So, is the Highway Code the law? Why is it quoted from post 2?
I go back to my first post
Stop quoting the Highway Code. The clue is in the name. (CODE).
Look at the Road Traffic Act,
That is the law
As you point out
In other words the Highway Code tells you what is a legal requirement relating to driving
I stated that you should not quote the Highway Code is it is not a legal document but an advisory booklet which quotes a very small part of the Road Traffic Act.
âIâm still not seeing your pointâs relevance to the question about the meaning of a speed displayed on a VMS with flashing amber lights.â
I have no point to make regarding this. My point is, in case you did not read it properly, is that
THE HIGHWAY CODE IS NOT THE LAW!
My last words on the subject
SWEDISH BLUE:
So, is the Highway Code the law? Why is it quoted from post 2?
I go back to my first post
Stop quoting the Highway Code. The clue is in the name. (CODE).Look at the Road Traffic Act,
That is the law
As you point out
In other words the Highway Code tells you what is a legal requirement relating to driving
I stated that you should not quote the Highway Code is it is not a legal document but an advisory booklet which quotes a very small part of the Road Traffic Act.
With the greatest respect arnt you being just a tad pedantic ? i take your point but it all amounts to the same ! anyway thxs for everyoneâs input
âIâm still not seeing your pointâs relevance to the question about the meaning of a speed displayed on a VMS with flashing amber lights.âI have no point to make regarding this. My point is, in case you did not read it properly, is that
THE HIGHWAY CODE IS NOT THE LAW!
My last words on the subject
SWEDISH BLUE:
Blah, blah, blahâŚTHE HIGHWAY CODE IS NOT THE LAW!
My last words on the subject
Oh, I bet it isnât your last words on the subjectâŚ
papermonkey:
bjd:
Temporary speed restrictions on motorways in amber with amber flashing lights advisory or compulsory ?Definitely advisory, but as someone else said, in the event of an incident, it could go against youâŚ
I do not agree, how could they.
They can not have it both ways, labelling something âAdvisoryâ (which they ARE in answer to o/p) then criticising someone for accepting the CHOICE given of not taking said advice, therefore deeming them compulsory.
robroy:
papermonkey:
bjd:
Temporary speed restrictions on motorways in amber with amber flashing lights advisory or compulsory ?Definitely advisory, but as someone else said, in the event of an incident, it could go against youâŚ
I do not agree, how could they.
They can not have it both ways, labelling something âAdvisoryâ (which they ARE in answer to o/p) then criticising someone for accepting the CHOICE given of not taking said advice, therefore deeming them compulsory.
They can have it both ways and will. If you choose to not adhere to the advisory signs, then you are making a decision that your judgement is superior to that of the agency who operates the signs, on the advice of the on the road patrols, If you are then involved in an incident, they could call your judgement into question
eddie snax:
robroy:
papermonkey:
bjd:
Temporary speed restrictions on motorways in amber with amber flashing lights advisory or compulsory ?Definitely advisory, but as someone else said, in the event of an incident, it could go against youâŚ
I do not agree, how could they.
They can not have it both ways, labelling something âAdvisoryâ (which they ARE in answer to o/p) then criticising someone for accepting the CHOICE given of not taking said advice, therefore deeming them compulsory.They can have it both ways and will. If you choose to not adhere to the advisory signs, then you are making a decision that your judgement is superior to that of the agency who operates the signs, on the advice of the on the road patrols, If you are then involved in an incident, they could call your judgement into question
Reckon a good solicitor would sort that out.
By making the law or situation advisory therefore optional, THEY are inviting you to use your judgement, so I still disagree.
