Serious concerns for your safety, and you work for the Royal Mail, Brilliant just brilliant ever considered a career as a stand up?
When another LGV starts to overtake do you immediately ease off to assist it ?
I can understand car drivers taking risks, but hgvs overtaking other hgvs on single track roads■■?
I just don’t get it….
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Agreed! It is strange but there must be a logical reason(s) because there are so many reasons not to do it:
Its against the law
It jeopardizes the drivers safety and the safety of others
It burns more fuel
It is more stressful
It reduces the demand for drivers (ie if the job is done quicker)
etc
The reasons for it may be
Hormonal, women drivers and older drivers) who are safer have lower testosterone levels
The driver is running out of hours
the driver wants to get home promptly
lavatory
competetiveness
driver is scared his planner will shout at him
driver wants to impress his boss
driver overestimates his abilities
If we knew the answer we could save a lot of limbs and lives
Hiya someone mentioned French drivers speeding on s/c roads. over in France and Spain they drive on the limiter
all the time and the coppers don’t seem to bother. I go to France every year in my camper van, lorries are always
passing me on s/c’s even when i’am doing 60 mph on clock (59 on satnav) i had 3 artics pass me at one time on one
road.another thing you notice NO 3 axle tractor units in France only 2 axle but still run at 44 ton. how come EU rules
change from one country to another.the copper’s hammer driver’s in the uk. have a look at this piccy take in Spain
how far would you get with this in the UK.every time the lorry hit a bump the rods waved up and down.
John
postman pat:
For the first time in 8 years of driving hgvs, I have real concerns of driving at 40 mph on a 60mph a road.The dangers that are presented are not by car drivers…
Unfortunately they are by other hgv drivers…
Last week I was driving along the A605 from the A14 towards Peterborough and I was overtaken by 3 hgvs,
Hgv 1 completed the manoeuvre without endangering other motorists, {even though he was breaking the speed limit for hgvs on that road, as were the other 2 hgvs that overtook me…}
Hgv 2 narrowly missed a oncoming car which was overtaking another hgv,
Hgv 3 well…I had to take evasive action and steer onto a grass verge at about 30 mph as the driver basically ’ run out of road ’ on a short 2 lane section, before he forced me off the road, or the last 10 ft of his trailer would have collided with the side of my cab…
I can understand car drivers taking risks, but hgvs overtaking other hgvs on single track roads■■?
I just don’t get it….
Neither do I.
Surely if your P/H then its in your own interest for the day to go longer. Long day = more money
If your salary, again surely the quicker you gt it done the more likely management is to put more drops on you? Then cue drivers moaning about too many drops!
Oh course there is secret option number three in this situation, they are rushing home due to insert reason here
mike68:
Serious concerns for your safety, and you work for the Royal Mail, Brilliant just brilliant ever considered a career as a stand up?
So you think because I work for Royal mail,
I should not be concerned about my safety ( and other road users saftey ) whilst doing my job ■■?
All I want is…
to make sure I get home in one piece when i finish work…
Is that too much to ask ?
All any of us can do is to make reasonable safe adjustments to our own driving in order to cope with the numpty driving of others
I think that is called being a good driver
I agree that it is safer to drive a 50 than at 40 , it would stop hgvs overtaking.
But is it worth the risk of driving at 50 and a fine and points just to feel 'safer ’ ?
On a serious note have you raised this issue with your management? You can’t do much about everyone else but an education/training campaign in your depots can maybe get your own drivers to be safer. Also wondering if there’s any ■■■ for tat occurring. You could have been getting payback for your colleagues misdemeanours.
I understand others wish to get ’ the job done ’ unfortunately not all of us work for companies that will turn a blind eye to Law Breaking…
On the Shell contract run by Hoyer … Shell and Hoyer monitor real time information and if a driver is flagged up as speeding on ANY road they WILL lose there job, mind you this is not true of all Hoyer contracts.
So if you are stuck behind a Shell Tanker, we are sticking to the speed limits for a very good reason. 
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kr79:
Your right but the average copper these days has no idea on discretion it’s what the book says.
Utter rubbish. 
As long as the Police keep putting speed cameras on single carraigeway roads to catch HGVs drifting over the 40 limit i will stick to 40. I live within sight of the A17 and see the queues daily behind lorries doing 40. Cant blame the drivers for not risking their license ,there is a scamera van on the Holbeach bypass as i type this . Try telling the Police you were speeding to prevent accidents and see what they say .
kr79:
Your right but the average copper these days has no idea on discretion it’s what the book says.
And how about the driver who hasn’t travelled that road before, how would he know? unless a new sign was erected … ‘speeding IS allowed on this section’
3300John:
Hiya someone mentioned French drivers speeding on s/c roads. over in France and Spain they drive on the limiter
all the time and the coppers don’t seem to bother. I go to France every year in my camper van, lorries are always
passing me on s/c’s even when i’am doing 60 mph on clock (59 on satnav) i had 3 artics pass me at one time on one
road.
^ This and guess what the roads and fields aren’t littered with destroyed vehicles and it actually works better for safety than the bonkers Brit ideas on how to use the roads.Because it’s better to get held up by the odd Brit camper here and there than having trucks overtaking each other and loads of cars needing to overtake convoys of plodding trucks considering that every overtaking manouvre is a risk and equals time exposed to danger.
Unlike if every one is getting on with it.As for the French coppers I don’t think that their ( correct ) attitudes have changed much over the years it’s just the government is sending them out more often to get some money in by issuing more on the spot fines.
But they know that causing tail backs and bunching on single carriage way roads increases the danger instead of decreasing it which is why on those occasions where they do put a scamera trap it’ll probably be somewhere where it’s actually likely to be a hazard blackspot. 
Unlike the bonkers Brits.
raymundo:
kr79:
Your right but the average copper these days has no idea on discretion it’s what the book says.And how about the driver who hasn’t travelled that road before, how would he know? unless a new sign was erected … ‘speeding IS allowed on this section’
It’s all about synchronising hazard perception between both the law and drivers.Most drivers know where it’s safe to run on the limiter and where it’s not and those that don’t shouldn’t be driving anyway and under that regime it’s those who’ll be getting nicked not the others.
Every SC is different though, width, bends, over hanging trees, bushes, kerbs, verges, lay-bys, bus stops, pavements, pedestrians… Everything comes into play. What about the numerous “single carriageways” that just have a single broken white line in the middle but 2 “lane” traffic passing each other.
Every carriageway should be individually assessed in my opinion. It’s just a lazy law.
wills:
I understand others wish to get ’ the job done ’ unfortunately not all of us work for companies that will turn a blind eye to Law Breaking…On the Shell contract run by Hoyer … Shell and Hoyer monitor real time information and if a driver is flagged up as speeding on ANY road they WILL lose there job, mind you this is not true of all Hoyer contracts.
So if you are stuck behind a Shell Tanker, we are sticking to the speed limits for a very good reason.
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That says it all about the bonkers British attitudes to road safety being all about speed and nothing else.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Every SC is different though, width, bends, over hanging trees, bushes, kerbs, verges, lay-bys, bus stops, pavements, pedestrians… Everything comes into play. What about the numerous “single carriageways” that just have a single broken white line in the middle but 2 “lane” traffic passing each other.
Every carriageway should be individually assessed in my opinion.
That’s the driver’s job.Which just leaves the issue of the law getting into line and enforcing those sections while letting everyone get on with the job on the others where it’s safe to do so.
I overtake other trucks on sc, dont really see the problem with it, but i am careful when doing it and wont take any chances. I havnt got any issues with people that stick to 40, fair play to you if you do, but it does my head in and i like to crack on.
3300John:
Hiya someone mentioned French drivers speeding on s/c roads. over in France and Spain they drive on the limiter all the time and the coppers don’t seem to bother. I go to France every year in my camper van, lorries are always passing me on s/c’s even when i’am doing 60 mph on clock (59 on satnav) i had 3 artics pass me at one time on one
road.
Whilst I don’t doubt you have been overtaken, as a French limiter is set at 90kmh and 59mph is 95kmh, they were either rigged or you were doing less. And not all French drivers run on limiter ( I certainly don’t, but then I am always being asked why I took my time 
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3300John:
another thing you notice NO 3 axle tractor units in France only 2 axle but still run at 44 ton.
I can’t speak for other countries, but the rule is 5 axles in total for 44 tons, and then only when doing a combined transport, otherwise they are running on 40 tons.