Securing Drums

Wildarmtins:
I’m kind of new to the business <12 months experience, but I most of my trailers have XL curtains with slightly suspect quality internal straps. In my situation, if I had this particular load, I’d cross strap the rear and make sure the curtains were done up tightly… would that be sufficient?

If the drums are properly secured to the pallets, and the pallets are a positive fit (they touch the sides) that is good enough.
Nothing to stop you putting extra straps on.
Whet do you mean about “suspect” internals? If the trailer is desgned buikt and marked as XL, they should be OK.

If the drums aren’t well secured onto the pallets then they will need individually restraining. Lots of layers of film or thick heat-shrink plastic will do the trick. Banding is good provided the bands can’t slip off the round drums. In this case metal drums with swage lines as shown are better than slippery plastic ones with smooth rounded contours.

Alfa1M:
Just interested to know how you lot deal with securing drums/barrels on the curtain siders.

As I don’t do it often and today sneered at by a Bowker lad who says he just runs internals. It took me 45 mins to strap the load.

I’d like to know what the DVSA recommends other than cargo strapping.

Thanks.

Is this strapping of every “row” overkill?

Are you not meant to attach the ratchet strap to the chassis not the side raves ?

robthedog:

Alfa1M:
Just interested to know how you lot deal with securing drums/barrels on the curtain siders.

As I don’t do it often and today sneered at by a Bowker lad who says he just runs internals. It took me 45 mins to strap the load.

I’d like to know what the DVSA recommends other than cargo strapping.

Thanks.

Is this strapping of every “row” overkill?

Are you not meant to attach the ratchet strap to the chassis not the side raves ?

Looking at the OPs picture some straps are on proper anchor loops. Some are on the rave. So long as they are the double-hook type that should be ok. The single hook type have a different curve to the hook and arent secure on the rave. Needs to be a steel rave, a light alloy one wont do the job. Either hook type is good on the chassis, but cant be done easily near 5th wheel or rear axles.
Personally I prefer putting ratchets on the chassis, so its easier to check them during a trip without opening up the sides. If youre carrying timber and it settles that is a consideration.

At least half of the straps I can see in the photo are attached to dedicated attachment points so they’re 100% legal.

I’ve seen at least one HSE video where the guy slaps the side of a flatbed trailer frame and calls it “the chassis”, so much for experts eh? :unamused: So I reckon attaching to the trailer frame would pass muster with any authority. The thing DVSA are looking for is ratchet straps attached to ropehooks.

BTW, I recently spoke to an overseas driver who called the side rails of the trailer “the cape”, anyone else heard of that term before?

robthedog:

Alfa1M:
Just interested to know how you lot deal with securing drums/barrels on the curtain siders.

As I don’t do it often and today sneered at by a Bowker lad who says he just runs internals. It took me 45 mins to strap the load.

I’d like to know what the DVSA recommends other than cargo strapping.

Thanks.

Is this strapping of every “row” overkill?

Are you not meant to attach the ratchet strap to the chassis not the side raves ?

I try where poss to secure to the chassis, but the first 2 pallet spaces or so I can’t get access to anything to hook on to, I dont really like using the built in hooks on the trailer as I really don’t believe they would hold 2 tonnes of freight from going off the side of the wagon if I rolled it too quick round a corner shall we say.

Sometimes as well If I dont use the chassis or one of the trailer “loops” I secure one side of strap under the side of the trailer, then go round other side to ratchet, pull the strap tight and the flucker comes off the other side… causes no end of frustration.

Zac_A:
BTW, I recently spoke to an overseas driver who called the side rails of the trailer “the cape”, anyone else heard of that term before?

Yep, that is what I have always known them as.
I’ve just done a word search on my post count (I’ve a lot of time on my hands tonight :blush: :laughing: ) and I’ve used the term a few times on here.

Is it not a Geordie term?.. Looking at your profile you should know that. :smiley:

Bewick:
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Excellent, a prime example of a load where the sheet itself does the work rather than just the restraints, the sheet here isn’t just stopping them falling off or over, its under tension pressing them down so they can’t get any momentum in the first place.

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Juddian:

Bewick:

Excellent, a prime example of a load where the sheet itself does the work rather than just the restraints, the sheet here isn’t just stopping them falling off or over, its under tension pressing them down so they can’t get any momentum in the first place.

I’ll have to remember that preventing momentum good words :wink:
This mixed load of boxes I could do no more with some wouldn’t stand my weight or that of a sheet :blush:

robroy:

Zac_A:
BTW, I recently spoke to an overseas driver who called the side rails of the trailer “the cape”, anyone else heard of that term before?

Yep, that is what I have always known them as.
I’ve just done a word search on my post count (I’ve a lot of time on my hands tonight :blush: :laughing: ) and I’ve used the term a few times on here.

Is it not a Geordie term?.. Looking at your profile you should know that. :smiley:

All I can say for sure is that I’ve never heard any other driver in this area call it a “cape”, but it’s a term I might start using myself as there’s no other good word that comes to mind to describe that part of the vehicle.

Zac_A:

robroy:

Zac_A:
BTW, I recently spoke to an overseas driver who called the side rails of the trailer “the cape”, anyone else heard of that term before?

Yep, that is what I have always known them as.
I’ve just done a word search on my post count (I’ve a lot of time on my hands tonight :blush: [emoji38] ) and I’ve used the term a few times on here.

Is it not a Geordie term?.. Looking at your profile you should know that. :smiley:

All I can say for sure is that I’ve never heard any other driver in this area call it a “cape”, but it’s a term I might start using myself as there’s no other good word that comes to mind to describe that part of the vehicle.

Rave.
Krone Trailers refers to “strapping points on the rave” on their site.
krone-trailer.com/english/p … fe-system/
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As does Don Bur in their “Load Fix Manual”.