Hello davnic, the drawbar looks like a Lynton, Gorton Manchester, I had one about 2000, great concept, but flimsy construction, you could tell it was built by a caravan manufacturer!! Cheerio for now.
Hi Saviem.
Why an A-frame rather than axles in the middle though.
Must have been a pig to reverse.
Davnic i would swear you are on a wind up!
Saviem:
Hello all, Marcus, 300 pages, and everyone a winner, this really is a cracking thread. Chris, (240gardner) your Viewline was beautiful, and I think a lot better restoration than mine. That enormous windscreen used to give me the collywobbles each time I hit a bumpy bit! I did send you a pm about the Belgian Krupp, I presume that my computer illiteracy prevented it arriving! Often wonder where WAN183G ended up after the Roberts sale, anyone know?
Firstly, congratulations on the 300 pages, Marc, and thank you!!
Back to the Viewlines, thank you for the kind comment! Here are mine and yours posing at Belle Vue in 1990, when mine was rather less beautiful:
I believe that WAN 183G went to Northern Ireland, as did your Defender, and which is now a flat.
Atkinson Lorry by robbiewos, on Flickr
Sorry - hadn’t seen the PM about the Krupp - please do send it again!
sammyopisite:
Hi Chris it was also pulling twice the weightbut it was not bad on fuel as loaded you had to keep it around 35 mph or under otherwise you had tyre trouble on the trailer which equated to about 1500 rpm and it was geared to 46 mph flat out so running at 40 mph was pretty economical as well. the other one at Sheffield was geared to 42 mph and was quite a bit thirstier and did not pull as well and then we had a venturer with a 240 smoker and that had a 10 speed fuller range change in but was geared to 38 mph and it was not as comfortable as the view line and gave you a sore knee.
cheers Johnnie
Blimey, must have been a long way to Toulouse at 35 mph!
Seeing as you raised the subject of the Scammell Highwayman Johnnie, I had one too but mine was a long time before I got to the Viewline so perhaps the culture shock wasn’t so great. In between I had Leylands, AECs, Fodens and of course Atkis, Mks 1 and 2.
I liked the old Highwayman though. On Ilkeston Haulage, slow and steady 38 mph top speed with a cruise control. 
Well, actually they all had hand throttles, little levers on the side of the engine cowling but none of them worked, the cables always snapped. So we found a suitable bit of wood and jammed it between the accelerator pedal and one of those conveniently placed bolts that stuck through from the engine compartment. 
It was so slow that going north on the A1 in the afternoon I could steer from the passenger seat and get the left arm bronzed to match it with the other one. Never had to change down with that gearing on the open road.
Had to get it into the right gear before snatching a few Zs across that gate change though to avoid an embarrassing bruise.
Meant to comment on the sleeper Viewline. It’s true it isn’t the most beautiful creature although it may have been fine from the inside. Difficult to say what would have made it prettier. A higher roof maybe? I don’t know. 
before we go up a bit i will take this opportunity to wish marcus another 100 pages of good reading, well done! Bill
Spardo:
Meant to comment on the sleeper Viewline. It’s true it isn’t the most beautiful creature although it may have been fine from the inside. Difficult to say what would have made it prettier. A higher roof maybe? I don’t know.
Some rounded edges, perhaps? Actually, the prototype did have a higher and slightly less angular roof, but which didn’t survive into production for some reason. In fact, it was fitted with the flat production roof before it was sold
congratulations mark another milestone 300 pages, you are doing a great job, all the best.
Well done Marcus, this was the first site I visited on Trucknet. Been hooked ever since.
Cheers Paul
240 Gardner:
Spardo:
Meant to comment on the sleeper Viewline. It’s true it isn’t the most beautiful creature although it may have been fine from the inside. Difficult to say what would have made it prettier. A higher roof maybe? I don’t know.Some rounded edges, perhaps? Actually, the prototype did have a higher and slightly less angular roof, but which didn’t survive into production for some reason. In fact, it was fitted with the flat production roof before it was sold
Yes, I agree, that does look a little better although I notice that that exhibition model has the rather feeble single stalk mirror arms whereas in production, at least all the ones I’ve seen, it had the good solid D-bar anchored above and below the screen.
Funnily enough, although I’d never seen that picture at the time, when the first Mk. 2s arrived at Midlands Storage I immediately modified my Mk. 1 (can’t imagine modern hauliers allowing such mucking about by drivers, I also, at Shaws, took some paint and a little brush and added some coach lines to my Albion 
) by removing the door mounted mirrors and re-positioning them under the screen wraparound like that Viewline. 
Took some doing getting them in exactly the right position without making large, and multiple, holes in the woodwork frame.
I was inspired by the Mk. 2 top and bottom anchored arms, albeit very elaborately engineered with 3 fixing points, if I remember correctly.
I may have mentioned this before but I remember, bizarre in this modern culture of health and safety, an advert for the Viewline which, in cartoon form, showed a driver lying dazed on the floor and his mate telling an enquirer that ‘he had fallen out of his Viewline’, as if this was a plus point.
Well done bubbs, keep it lit roge
THANKS BUBBS. You have made so many enthusiasts happy with your fantastic pictures,please keep up the good work.
I second what everybody else has said Bubbs. A fantastic achievement and long may it continue.
GCR2ERF:
I love this picture, on a motorway and the transit driver has his door slid back open. Would never get away with that today.
Hi all. i am still trying to find more history on this F89(reg:ALP 61S) that i am restoring, I recently bought a photo of it on ebay in exactly the same paint job as in the picture here but with “Evans and sons” on thr door instead of “Joyce”,can anyone shed any light on this ? Or if you have any other info on it it would be much appreciated, many thanks Dave.
Hello lads,Hey many thanks for the comments…I never thought that the thread would get this far,and to be fair theres been a lot of contributors who have added great pictures and dialog so its not all me.I must admit sometimes I find it difficult to come up with something interesting…I’ll keep trying
Ok lets try for another 100 pages then
Cheers Bubbs,
Well done Marcus
Heres a few more to add to the pile
More images of Edward Beck & Son Ltd can be found here edwardbeck.webs.com/
truckfing:
I second what everybody else has said Bubbs. A fantastic achievement and long may it continue.
hiya,
Snap.
thanks harry long retired.