It’s a Minx Estate, the longer one based on the Commer Express van bodyshell.
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Ta very much, bit before my time (that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it)
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I think it was a Commer Cob Van that was that size in the photo…
My Dad drove this Handyman when he was at Midlands Storage
Spardo:
Buzzer:
BuzzerThat green Atki coaler reminds me of the company I used to work for, indirectly, based at Ollerton opposite the pit, but for the life of me can’t remember their name.
C’mon someone, Gazza?, put me out of my misery .
I think it was Robertshaws Spardo
gazsa401:
Spardo:
Buzzer:
BuzzerThat green Atki coaler reminds me of the company I used to work for, indirectly, based at Ollerton opposite the pit, but for the life of me can’t remember their name.
C’mon someone, Gazza?, put me out of my misery .I think it was Robertshaws Spardo
Was it Clarkes,who did a lot for NCC Rexco at Ollerton?
gazsa401:
Spardo:
Buzzer:
BuzzerThat green Atki coaler reminds me of the company I used to work for, indirectly, based at Ollerton opposite the pit, but for the life of me can’t remember their name.
C’mon someone, Gazza?, put me out of my misery .I think it was Robertshaws Spardo
No, that rings no bells, whoever they were had a large fleet of green Atkis, and they owned Bulkliner at Beeston where I worked, also with Atkis, but a sort of salmon pink in colour.
BTW that Midlands Storage photo must be really old, way before my time. A Foden and a Scammell. It was nearly all Atkis and KMs when I was there, early 70s. Colour appears different too, darker. Was Jock Gallagher the yard foreman at that time, and Lance someone the transport manager? I think he left to start his own clearing house. The boss was a Welshman Glyn Samuels (?).
@Chris Webb, NCC Rexco rings a bell, a loud one. Perhaps it was that. 
Nmp credit to S .Collingwood whose Dad worked for Marshall’s
Spardo:
gazsa401:
Spardo:
Buzzer:
BuzzerThat green Atki coaler reminds me of the company I used to work for, indirectly, based at Ollerton opposite the pit, but for the life of me can’t remember their name.
C’mon someone, Gazza?, put me out of my misery .I think it was Robertshaws Spardo
No, that rings no bells, whoever they were had a large fleet of green Atkis, and they owned Bulkliner at Beeston where I worked, also with Atkis, but a sort of salmon pink in colour.
BTW that Midlands Storage photo must be really old, way before my time. A Foden and a Scammell. It was nearly all Atkis and KMs when I was there, early 70s. Colour appears different too, darker. Was Jock Gallagher the yard foreman at that time, and Lance someone the transport manager? I think he left to start his own clearing house. The boss was a Welshman Glyn Samuels (?).
Was it K n M Spardo? Remember Bulkliner used to run into them all over North London picking scrap up. Remember a couple of the drivers moaning about the short trailers they used@Chris Webb, NCC Rexco rings a bell, a loud one. Perhaps it was that.
Here’s a couple Spardo to jog your memory, they must have had a good few motors at one time they were everywhere cheers coomsey
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Spardo:
Buzzer:
BuzzerThat green Atki coaler reminds me of the company I used to work for, indirectly, based at Ollerton opposite the pit, but for the life of me can’t remember their name.
C’mon someone, Gazza?, put me out of my misery .
Was it K n M ? Used to run into Bulkliner motors North London regular picking up scrap, recall some of the drivers moaning about the short trailers they used
Here’s a photo to help jog your memory Spardo, must have had a good few motors at one time they were everywhere
gazsa401:
Nmp credit to S .Collingwood whose Dad worked for Marshall’s
When I was TM at Toray and before I converted the fleet from rigids (deliveries) and artics (raw intake from Hyde) to drawbars to do both jobs, we had 2 artics on a regular run but one of them was getting old and in any case the driver had been done for drunk driving, so I decided that, as the factories both ends had a night shift I could do the job with one artic on a double run, at night. Problem was, before the site was extended giving another entrance, the only way in was via 2 streets fully parked up by residents’ cars at night.
Dawson Rentals had a base within Marshall’s site and they, keen to get my business for the occasional trailer hire, said our driver could do the trailer swap there and fetch them both in in the morning. All went well for a time but someone at Marshall’s head office spotted the gateman’s report with this strange wagon coming in and out, and put a stop to it. In the end I had to pay Trowell services to allow us to the swap there, which included the use of the bridge rather than going the long way round.
Of course all that was redundant after the change to wagon and drags, much more efficient. A double load of deliveries round Lancashire and Yorkshire, swap bodies so that even the tightest of places could be delivered to, and a full backload from Hyde. It even made possible wagons returning from Scotland, NE, W. Mids and Wales to take part easily covering the work.
At Hyde, loading the whole train on a dock via the opening doors at both ends of the boxes and a strong plate bridging the 2 for the fork trucks became the method. I found out after a time that a real bolshie forkie was refusing to cross the bridge and insisted on the drivers uncoupling and loading separately. He had always been an awkward sod so when they called for redunduncies they made sure he got a really good deal, and the bridge came back into use. I later heard that a change in his personal circumstances made him lonely at home and he pleaded for his job back. You can imagine the answer. 
coomsey:
Here’s a photo to help jog your memory Spardo, must have had a good few motors at one time they were everywhere
Well jogged Coomsey thanks. I worked for them but not on those tippers, I had an artic with a bottom discharge powder tank, but in the newer colours of red and white. My brother also worked there with an Atki and 40’ flat. He had all the heavy work and got much less pay than I did. A really strange system of mileage payments which I fully appreciated.
The first picture you posted looks like the entrance to the old yard just on the Bulwell/Hucknall boundary, it was long and narrow running along between the railway line and the houses on the main road. The residents complained about the noise, despite the fact that it used to a be a goods shunting yard, and they eventually moved to Hucknall airport after my time with them.
Spardo:
coomsey:
Here’s a photo to help jog your memory Spardo, must have had a good few motors at one time they were everywhereWell jogged Coomsey thanks. I worked for them but not on those tippers, I had an artic with a bottom discharge powder tank, but in the newer colours of red and white. My brother also worked there with an Atki and 40’ flat. He had all the heavy work and got much less pay than I did. A really strange system of mileage payments which I fully appreciated.
The first picture you posted looks like the entrance to the old yard just on the Bulwell/Hucknall boundary, it was long and narrow running along between the railway line and the houses on the main road. The residents complained about the noise, despite the fact that it used to a be a goods shunting yard, and they eventually moved to Hucknall airport after my time with them.
I had second thoughts cos I know they were big Foden users. Now while I’ve got you Spardo,do you know why Bulkliner used containers instead of proper trailers? Tax thing? I used to see them tipping in the steel works so obviously they weren’t for export. I bet they were bugas to back up being so short! Their livery would have given Tarmac a run for it’s money, horrible!
Buzzer:
Buzzer
Great memories of Wells drinks from Tenbury wells ,did not realise they had that many artics .
Lloyds of Ludlow did much of their work with F86 Volvos ,regards Keith
tyneside:
Spardo:
Buzzer:
Thursdays, BuzzerJust looking at those two Woolfenden Leylands reminded me that those large quarterlights opened facing forward when required. Lovely cool draft on a hot day.
The Scottish OD with a Mandator that I met in Darwin had West Coast mirrors with large pieces of board fixed to the stays for the same effect.
Trying to figure the two Leylands, is it two trailers with one silo on or one trailer with two swan necks ■■? Looks like two tow ropes linked together, were they working in tandem ■■
Tyneside
There are 2 25Ft step frame trailers in use with the 2 tractors, carrying a retired storage vessel across a yard to be scrapped, the wires on the front were attached to a winch to ensure even movement of both tractors, seems odd but that’s how the load was moved.
ERF-NGC-European:
Dipster:
ERF-NGC-European:
I, too, am intrigued by the two Leylands as they are on E-suffix plates dating them from '66/'67. But they’ve got cabs from two generations of cab previous to that date. That cab was gradually replaced by the LAD cab around 1958 and by 1964 you could have an Ergo cab! So why such retro cabs I wonder.Ex Military registered and given modern, not age related, reg number?
Well the military did use Leyland Hippos but I don’t remember seeing them with that cab. By the '70s they would have been issued with Q-plates but I can’t remember when Q-plates were introduced.
There were 4 of these Hippos purchased 1967 at Burtonwood after retiring from military service, they were used by U.S. air force, all were built in 1955, 3 were on E plate and 1 on an F plate, should have been Q plated but a family contact in Liver building by-passed the system.
coomsey:
Spardo:
coomsey:
Here’s a photo to help jog your memory Spardo, must have had a good few motors at one time they were everywhereWell jogged Coomsey thanks. I worked for them but not on those tippers, I had an artic with a bottom discharge powder tank, but in the newer colours of red and white. My brother also worked there with an Atki and 40’ flat. He had all the heavy work and got much less pay than I did. A really strange system of mileage payments which I fully appreciated.
The first picture you posted looks like the entrance to the old yard just on the Bulwell/Hucknall boundary, it was long and narrow running along between the railway line and the houses on the main road. The residents complained about the noise, despite the fact that it used to a be a goods shunting yard, and they eventually moved to Hucknall airport after my time with them.
I had second thoughts cos I know they were big Foden users. Now while I’ve got you Spardo,do you know why Bulkliner used containers instead of proper trailers? Tax thing? I used to see them tipping in the steel works so obviously they weren’t for export. I bet they were bugas to back up being so short! Their livery would have given Tarmac a run for it’s money, horrible!
Simple answer is Freightliners. They were standard 20’ open top containers for carrying bulk loads from Yorkshire mainly to London on the Freightliner trains which left every night. There was a London depot at Barking where local drivers tipped them and reloaded mainly with scrap for the north, then back on the northbound night train. Only thing was that Freightliners couldn’t cope so we often drove down to London and back ourselves, sometimes in a long convoy.
And you are right, they were a nightmare to reverse. Of course we could reverse them but, unlike with a longer trailer you couldn’t correct if it started to go off, it was pull forward and start again. Later when I was there they got some 30’ skellies and boxes, a little bit easier but came with their own problems. They kept falling over, I was told that it was a design fault in the angle sections below the ram which allowed them to twist out of line easily. I was once tipping coke in Stanton with one, and terrified, I had the door open, one foot on the sill and one hand on the down lever. Looking up I saw the box moving across the sky, dropped the lever, leapt for my life and ran like hell. There was no crash, looking round the box was sitting nicely on the trailer waiting for my next trick. What I had seen was not the box moving but clouds scudding across the sky. Never did trust the bloody things though.
As to the colour, puce is what I would call it, later they darkened it towards light brown which didn’t look quite so bad.
Spardo:
coomsey:
Spardo:
coomsey:
Here’s a photo to help jog your memory Spardo, must have had a good few motors at one time they were everywhereWell jogged Coomsey thanks. I worked for them but not on those tippers, I had an artic with a bottom discharge powder tank, but in the newer colours of red and white. My brother also worked there with an Atki and 40’ flat. He had all the heavy work and got much less pay than I did. A really strange system of mileage payments which I fully appreciated.
The first picture you posted looks like the entrance to the old yard just on the Bulwell/Hucknall boundary, it was long and narrow running along between the railway line and the houses on the main road. The residents complained about the noise, despite the fact that it used to a be a goods shunting yard, and they eventually moved to Hucknall airport after my time with them.
I had second thoughts cos I know they were big Foden users. Now while I’ve got you Spardo,do you know why Bulkliner used containers instead of proper trailers? Tax thing? I used to see them tipping in the steel works so obviously they weren’t for export. I bet they were bugas to back up being so short! Their livery would have given Tarmac a run for it’s money, horrible!
Simple answer is Freightliners. They were standard 20’ open top containers for carrying bulk loads from Yorkshire mainly to London on the Freightliner trains which left every night. There was a London depot at Barking where local drivers tipped them and reloaded mainly with scrap for the north, then back on the northbound night train. Only thing was that Freightliners couldn’t cope so we often drove down to London and back ourselves, sometimes in a long convoy.
And you are right, they were a nightmare to reverse. Of course we could reverse them but, unlike with a longer trailer you couldn’t correct if it started to go off, it was pull forward and start again. Later when I was there they got some 30’ skellies and boxes, a little bit easier but came with their own problems. They kept falling over, I was told that it was a design fault in the angle sections below the ram which allowed them to twist out of line easily. I was once tipping coke in Stanton with one, and terrified, I had the door open, one foot on the sill and one hand on the down lever. Looking up I saw the box moving across the sky, dropped the lever, leapt for my life and ran like hell. There was no crash, looking round the box was sitting nicely on the trailer waiting for my next trick. What I had seen was not the box moving but clouds scudding across the sky.
As to the colour, puce is what I would call it, later they darkened it towards light brown which didn’t look quite so bad.
Just had a thought was it Rushcliffe Fuels?
gazsa401:
As to the colour, puce is what I would call it, later they darkened it towards light brown which didn’t look quite so bad.
Just had a thought was it Rushcliffe Fuels?
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No, NCC has comes closest so far, the boss there has a name that I thought I would remember which would make the link. Infuriating. 