Mr Saviem your quote “a set of painfully squeaky rollers” again got my memory going and during the 1956 Suez Crisis and the resulting fuel rationing, I was temporarily laid off from W Alexander and Sons Aberdeen depot. Soon finding a seat on a Fergie on one of the farms local to my roots. 1956 was a good summer(after a bad winter) and rolling a field with a three link set, starting on the outside, working my way towards the centre and daydreaming (the new love of my life and wife to be uppermost), coming round to find a third of my set sitting and a unrolled bout all the way round the field . Among other tasks I did was hammer milling pig feed off the Fergie PTO, that was a dusty job, no H&E then, lifting turnips from frozen ground, carting dung with manual spreading and other tractor related jobs. In rural Aberdeenshire we were a tad behind with mechanical application, but the introduction of the Ferguson System changed all that.
Hard graft but absolutely no regrets
Oily
Froggy55:
Fergie47:
Eight wheelers, starting with an unusal Renault…The “unusual Renault” looks to me like a Spanish Barreiros D 340. Previously fitted with a locally produced cab and badged Dodge. I always loved 8-wheelers, probably because they looked exotic to us French until 1992, when their GW was raised to 32 tonnes. Thanks for all these interesting pictures!
You are right:
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The blue 8x2 Fiat in the same group looks superb- like new, but the late 1970s accessories give that lie.
Your before and after photo Fergie , is that Mur de Bretagne ?
Coming back to the Barreiros trucks, the Spanish-cabbed “Dodge” was offered for sale in some parts of France c. 1980. See this ad’ for C 3864.
Later badged (and probably powered by) Renault.
Some of them were used by a quarry near Montargis (Loiret). They were sold and serviced by Menneron Somagec, a truck and farming equipment dealer based on the side of the RN 7 road, 5 kms south from Montargis. The premises are now completely derelict, and used by paintball fans.
And now a MB 2620 6x6 photographed yesterday on the side of the RN 7 (Nogent sur Vernisson) on the ground of a truck dealer. It has been there for over 5 years.
Evening all,
Kerbut, yes, the same pedigree, but rather a different company when Norbert acquired them , (was it 1990ish)? The yard had moved to alongside the RN10 by then. Wonder how that operation will fare with the new American owners?
Oilly, thank you, I had no idea that those films were made. The first two are former drivers in the Bandar Abbas Express, and I think that the LB76 is a restoration job, (but nice that they have done it). Many that they ran down were drawbars, the very first one went solo, with only about 6 tonnes of vital spares. Seeing that picture suddenly made me regret selling my LB76…untill then I really had not missed her…now of course I do!
I came across Evensen when “we” opened a new Norwegian outlet, a subsidiary ofKingsrod Transport, traded as Kingsrod Trading, at Sarsporg, about 80kms from Oslo. The main effort was the ex Berliet tractors, TR305, R310 and on…plus the J serie middleweights.
The reason for going into Norway, (a small, and difficult marketplace), was that our dealer network in Denmark run by, Lastbils Import, from Koge nr Copenhagen, was selling a fair few TR305s, some TR350s, and the serie Js, to the tune of 4.6% of the Danish market. Plus the lightweight Saviem/Renaults were doing quite well in Finland, (500 into the Postal and Telephone service, plus nearly 100 double cab SGs into the Electric company). So some"big cheese" decided that we would do well in Norway…oh if only life were so easy!..well it is when you are a “big cheese”…its the minions that do the running around…and get it in the neck when the lorries are not exactly what the market likes!..Some very professional haulage companys in Norway, Evensen and Son were one of them.......and they loved their Scania
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Fergie, superb pictures as usual, (particularly the eight wheelers). Froggy is quite right about the Transana Barrerios, really interesting company Transana, worked with Santana for a very long time.
The company Hispano-Francesa de Vehiculos Industriales, (the vehicle for the take over of Peugeot-Citroen owned Barrerios was created in November 1981, giving Renault a springboard into the emerging, but still highly regulated Spanish lorry market. The heavy weight 300 series was nearing the end of its life, but for reasons of consistency the replacement had to be seen to be, (initially), a Spanish product…after all H-F V I employed 2600 staff!
There was a degree of duplication in the ranges that followed the final take over…300 Spanish mechanicals with a KB2400 cab…(sitting rather high on the frame due to the height of the (Scania designed), Barrerios motor. Others had 12 litre Renault power…but Spanish frames and running gear…and a high cab as well!..The name on the front was nearly, (but not always), the standard RVI Renault. Some of the tractors were easily confused with the Ford Transcontinental because of their height…but not the exhaust note!
I often wondered why the 300 serie did not sell well in the UK because the paper specification was right up there with the best…and having been involved in a Truck Eurotest, where a very poorly presented 300 tractor…simply stormed around the test route…I thought that the product had potential. But quality issues beset all the models, 2,3, and 4 axle…and parts back up in the UK seemed to lack urgency. But the driving position was really nice, even if the cab was rather small…(I would say cosey)…and that Fuller installation was not quite the best, but altogether it felt “right”. One of my pals in Engineering was heavily involved in the work to get the RVI/Berliet cab onto the Spanish range, and according to him…“it was a bugger of a job”…but it was done in the end…and produced a very imposing range of lorries indeed.
Cheerio for now.
Thanks, Saviem. This is the first time I get an opinion about Barreiros trucks!
A couple for me Uncle Fergie, ain’t got a clue who they belong to as they came via facebook, will remove if requested
michel:
Barreiros 6x4 as a mixer with the french inspiration cab !
Definitely looks like a Berliet “Relaxe” cab! Until today, I didn’t know that cab had been used by other truck manufacturers; most interesting, thanks, Michel!
pete smith:
A couple for me Uncle Fergie, ain’t got a clue who they belong to as they came via facebook, will remove if requested
Good find Smithy, second pic I posted up at one time, but the first is new to me…
pete smith:
Hi Saviem,A strange firm to me here and I cannot place the location either, over to you mate!
Wouldn’t carry much long stuff Smithy…the French know how to do it
Another lorry with a gender crisis…is it, or ain’t it … either way, nice looking beast
kerbut:
Your before and after photo Fergie , is that Mur de Bretagne ?
Don’t think so Nigel, it certainly looks like somewhere in beautiful Bretagne, but can’t trace it at Mur de Bretagne …not via Google earth anyway.
After 6 wheelers, then 8 wheelers, here’s some wagon and trailers / drags / pups (depending on where you hail from) …
Saviem:
Evening all,Kerbut, yes, the same pedigree, but rather a different company when Norbert acquired them , (was it 1990ish)? The yard had moved to alongside the RN10 by then. Wonder how that operation will fare with the new American owners?
Must be costing a fortune re-livering all the lorries and trailers , I am sure Norbert and Therese Dentrassangle and Daniel and Gilles Letard are glad they are out of it.
pete smith:
Hi Saviem,
A strange firm to me here and I cannot place the location either, over to you mate!
Evening all,
Hello Pete, Thomas Squire were situated in Showell Road Bushbury, and Shaw Road. They were taken over early 80s by Bell and Herwood, who I think wee in turn owned by Sheffield based Arthur Lee.
I can remember that little Dodge, does it look like the old Stafford Rd just down from the Dunstal? (long before it was widened, and a lot of buildings demolished), looking up towards the Gas Works? What do you think…its on a trolley bus route anyway!
Froggy, nearly all of Don Eduardo Barreiros`s lorries,( apart from the early Polish Star cabbed ones) had the basic Berliet Relax cab shell, listed by Barreiros as the “Panorama” fitted. Then came the curvaceous cab designed in house, but built by Catalan based coachbuilder Costa, that lasted right up until the Renault KB range cab.
Barreiros was a pretty incredible operation, how it started, ran, fought off all sorts of opposition, (much from the Spanish Civil Service) absorbtion by Chrysler, then Peugeot Citroen, then Renault Vehicules Industriels, (and in so condeming Dodge in Britain to its death)…but the real story is Barreiros himself, one of the greatest of Europe`s greatest, “hands on” lorry builders, a quite remarkable story , perhaps I may be permitted to bore you all with it one night…
But I’m away for my supper,
Cheerio for now.
Saviem:
pete smith:
Hi Saviem,
A strange firm to me here and I cannot place the location either, over to you mate!Evening all,
Hello Pete, Thomas Squire were situated in Showell Road Bushbury, and Shaw Road. They were taken over early 80s by Bell and Herwood, who I think wee in turn owned by Sheffield based Arthur Lee.
I can remember that little Dodge, does it look like the old Stafford Rd just down from the Dunstal? (long before it was widened, and a lot of buildings demolished), looking up towards the Gas Works? What do you think…its on a trolley bus route anyway!
Froggy, nearly all of Don Eduardo Barreiros`s lorries,( apart from the early Polish Star cabbed ones) had the basic Berliet Relax cab shell, listed by Barreiros as the “Panorama” fitted. Then came the curvaceous cab designed in house, but built by Catalan based coachbuilder Costa, that lasted right up until the Renault KB range cab.
Barreiros was a pretty incredible operation, how it started, ran, fought off all sorts of opposition, (much from the Spanish Civil Service) absorbtion by Chrysler, then Peugeot Citroen, then Renault Vehicules Industriels, (and in so condeming Dodge in Britain to its death)…but the real story is Barreiros himself, one of the greatest of Europe`s greatest, “hands on” lorry builders, a quite remarkable story , perhaps I may be permitted to bore you all with it one night…
But I’m away for my supper,
Cheerio for now.
Morning Saviem,
Yes Squires was on Showell Road just before 1st railway bridge and the shed had the rail link down the side for the ECC factory, I think they moved to the little industrial unit opposite because of the damp shed making the steel rusty and when they called it a day a gaming machine company took it over…Maygay was it? Location of lorry I will compare some pictures out of the trolley bus books! Cheer’s Pete.