I forgot the link:
histoireetcollections.com/fr/65-charge-utile
Looking through Froggy55’s link, I came across a magazine containing an article about these:
I got the pic from this very well-assembled and informative site:
passion-citroen.com/les-broc … le-cabine/
Found this pic of my wagon in Orgon, in the south of France, returning from Marseille in 2004. Robert
I met an old coach driver yesterday and we got onto non-power steering. We both agreed that it was largely a matter of technique rather than brute force - well, on buses and lighter commercials anyway!
However, he mentioned that back in the '50s many coach drivers would set up a small header tank with a little tap to drip-feed the steering mechanism to keep it constantly lubricated. He maintained that this made a big difference, but that you had to remember to turn the tap off when you parked to avoid puddles of oil forming on the road. I’ve not come across this before. Was this common practice among lorry drivers with ‘armstrong’ steering in that period? Robert
robert1952:
I met an old coach driver yesterday and we got onto non-power steering. We both agreed that it was largely a matter of technique rather than brute force - well, on buses and lighter commercials anyway!However, he mentioned that back in the '50s many coach drivers would set up a small header tank with a little tap to drip-feed the steering mechanism to keep it constantly lubricated. He maintained that this made a big difference, but that you had to remember to turn the tap off when you parked to avoid puddles of oil forming on the road. I’ve not come across this before. Was this common practice among lorry drivers with ‘armstrong’ steering in that period? Robert
I can remember years ago some of the drivers, particularly on the 8 wheeler and drags, carrying a grease gun, (the mate use to get the job of greasing the wagon, especially the steering) but not heard of a can and tap…
The Citroen truck range was mostly bonneted, but in 1961 to preserve sales, a front cab built by Heuliez was offered to customers .The access was close to Ford Trader and BMC FF with the forward front axle and not praise by the drivers . This product was on the market until mid-1965 when the new front “Belphegor” range was launched.
Citroen “Belphegor” typ 600 near an old bonneted P 55. The design of the cab was drawn by F.Bertoni.(also involved with Traction,2 cv,DS)
In the 60 th, a link was established to build Berliet in Spain. The range was mostly bonneted lorries based on the GLM/TLM 12 range, but as spanish hauliers like 3 axles, a 6x2 named GPS 12 was specific to this market.
Publicity from this date.
michel:
Publicity from this date.
Thanks Michel, … 
The writings on the wall, use to be everywhere, not seen so much these days, no doubt the cost of painting exceeds the publicity. The owners of the properties would get a small annual payment for the use of their wall,…
Fergie47:
The writings on the wall, use to be everywhere, not seen so much these days, no doubt the cost of painting exceeds the publicity. The owners of the properties would get a small annual payment for the use of their wall,…
I was thinking about that the other day, you don’t see that to often these day’s… if you do then it’s a hidden gem most of the time…
Nice “heavy” one mate
Why do yards full of rusting hulks attract old lorry drivers ■■?.. they do me anyway !!!
Fergie47:
No words required…
Hi Fergie,
Did you take the third picture yourself? It shows a rare and very interesting pre-WW II Renault fitted with a “gazogène” enabling it to run on coal gas.
The 6-wheeled “TV imposter” looks to me an ALM (Ateliers Legueu Meaux; now ACMAT). They’re specialised in Army vehicles, but also produced some civilian all-grounds and special vehicles.
Froggy55:
Fergie47:
No words required…Hi Fergie,
Did you take the third picture yourself? It shows a rare and very interesting pre-WW II Renault fitted with a “gazogène” enabling it to run on coal gas.
The 6-wheeled “TV imposter” looks to me an ALM (Ateliers Legueu Meaux; now ACMAT). They’re specialised in Army vehicles, but also produced some civilian all-grounds and special vehicles.
Froggy …hope you’re having better weather than Bretagne. .No, didn’t take the picture, but spotted the gas tank, wonder if it was ever saved.
The pictures of the TV impersonators are indeed ALM…well spotted…front wheel drive, ultra low chassis…specialist wagons indeed… 
backsplice:
Why do yards full of rusting hulks attract old lorry drivers ■■?.. they do me anyway !!!
Me too, fascinating, to think they were once brand new and someone’s pride and joy, then to see them just rotting away…sad init !!.. 
Fergie47:
No words required…
That first one is alongside the N7 between Montelimar and Donzere, been coming past the old DAF for ages… sorry sight to see it rot away like that…
Came past this today…
And I’ve got more interesting stuff coming, I was stranded in Le Mans this past weekend and I was lucky, because the 24h classic edition was being held… just need some proper signal to get the pic’s through, bair with me lads…
Cheers, Patrick
