deckboypeggy:
It was meant as a joke , me being silly, I never over roped a load if not needed .I and lots of others drivers carried all types of loads, from anywhere.
and Ropes! and chains, and snappers, ,and 4 sheets , a back scotches,timbers under the trailer lags , 2 bags of scotches for reels ,as much as you could get in the passenger foot well ,loads of ropes wet and smelly.in the cab as well also tied on the back of the cab on the air cleaner brackets… good days ,sometimes.
dbp.
Sorry, driver, any bloke who puts ropes, sheets, sacks, etc. wet or dry, in the cab would get the Order of the DCM from me. I made sure that there were ruddy great steel or aluminium padlocked lockers on my motors.
MIKE P:
Well done to that man dennis 4 sheets to cover that tissue
Bewick:
A load of parent tissue reels from Disley Mill stood in the depot at Milnthorpe.
Thanks for that Mike, that load, one of many, sure will sure contradict the negative comments from some quarters that would have it Bewick Transport only hauled nice low and square loads ! Those making such comments wouldn’t know where to start to sheet and rope loads like this one Cheers Dennis.
Leyland600:
Mike, Who did this ■■■■■■■■ registered Scania belong to originally ? it certainly looks very familiar ?
Cheers, Leyland 600
I hope Mike can answer your question Gerald because I can’t and I’ve been wracking my brain cell to bring the former operators name to mind. I think it could have been an ex Penrith motor though and it wasn’t very old when I bought it off my dealer pal IIRC.I got quite a few ex north ■■■■■■■■ motors over the years, ex WCBP,J R Wilson,(an older Y reg ex Markley with a Photostat tax disc ) secondhand Atkis ex Barnett & Graham and one from Mullens Motors Appleby,they were all decent stuff and fairly newish. I also bought an F88 and near new 40ft C/F trailer from a chap called Brian Pennington from about Cockermouth IIRC, the F88 was origionally ex W H Malcolm but it had those early small diameter wheel nuts which weren’t compatable with the rest of the fleet. I also recall buying a 40ft C/F trailer off a firm called Iveson IIRC. Useless info but the old memory can still dredge up some nuggets if someone gives a starter for 10 eh! Cheers Dennis.
Retired Old ■■■■:
Done some of those, Dennis, and I have to say I hated every one of them!
Aye ROF they were a pain and not everyone was capable but the main of our Lads, particularly our shunters were a great bunch of Lads and nothing fazed them ! Cheers Dennis.
rigsby:
That must have been quite tight on th railway bridge dennis , it looks to be well over13ft . our curtainsiders were about 13ft6 and they went under ok until the first ec came with a different 5th wheel and that wouldn’t go . i think it was 4" higher than the rest . someone made a fine job of sheeting those staggered rolls . dave
What we did Dave was stop and let the tyres down then scrape through then the Drivers pumped the tyres back up with the foot pumps they carried ! Seriously, after Bibbys sold Disley Mill to Kruger Tissue they put in a new access road across the valley and did away with using the old road up to the A6.Cheers Dennis.
Thank you retired od ■■■■
That makes it 100% obvious that you never ever did any general roaming haulage in the 1970s at all… if you had have done, the major requirement was to have all your OWN gear with you because you never new what ,and where the next load came from… there were no lockers to store gear in .
so you had not been at it that long then ehh .
or you would have known… or you drove c licence. Lockers never came in to the 1980s …and Cherahu trailers were the first to put lockers each side, late 1980s supposedly for "30 euro pallet s "how do I know I was driving for PULLEYNS ,he used to let us one for our own use and the other for Meat hooks if we had to take the out.
If you loaded timber you had to have your Dunnage,3x3 timbers the width of your trailer. reels of paper from Tilbury on the roll you had to have your own chocks. etc it was never ending .LIKE ME GOING ON. THE END…DBP
deckboypeggy:
Thank you retired od ■■■■
That makes it 100% obvious that you never ever did any general roaming haulage in the 1970s at all… if you had have done, the major requirement was to have all your OWN gear with you because you never new what ,and where the next load came from… there were no lockers to store gear in .
so you had not been at it that long then ehh .
or you would have known… or you drove c licence. Lockers never came in to the 1980s …and Cherahu trailers were the first to put lockers each side, late 1980s supposedly for "30 euro pallet s "how do I know I was driving for PULLEYNS ,he used to let us one for our own use and the other for Meat hooks if we had to take the out.
If you loaded timber you had to have your Dunnage,3x3 timbers the width of your trailer. reels of paper from Tilbury on the roll you had to have your own chocks. etc it was never ending .LIKE ME GOING ON. THE END…DBP
Is this why when I comeback off holiday my Dad has put all the straps in the cab !
Hiya,
And not forgetting the 20 or so “in my case aluminium” corner boards if carrying
foodstuffs or fresh fruit and vegetables, Heinz’s wouldn’t load you at one time if
you didn’t have them, and I think Bachelors was another one who made you use
them, a bit of a bind trying to keep them in place if it was windy, but us older
experienced drivers always found a way round it Eh’.
thanks harry, long retired.
In fairness to DBP, It’s occurred to me on more than one occasion that when working on general haulage it would have been advantageous to have been pulling 2 x 40 ft. trailers, one for the load, the other one for all the rest of the crap required to secure the load and deliver it to its destination in the condition that it left the factory.
In the early days, in my experience at least, it was quite common to have the passenger footwell full of wet stinking hessian rope, jack and wheelbrace and a box of basic tools, rusty chains and stretchers, drums of diesel , as fuel cards were a bit thin on the ground back then, not to mention a few bits of skilfully crafted plywood and a bit of sponge to stretch out on. And if you had a few pages from the daily mirror to stick onto the windscreen, well, job sorted. Respect due. And all this in a Mickey Mouse Foden. Not every employer was as considerate as ROF evidently.
I was never without a decent-sized outside locker from the beginning of my driving days in 1966. The first one was made of tongue & groove boards in a steel angle frame and was bolted to the cross members on the n/s rear of the S-type Bedford. And, like H, I learned the value of aluminium corner boards- they fitted in a pair of brackets between the two axles. Timbers were roped tightly in a neat stack against the headboard.
Depending on what sort of traffic I was mainly engaged in, later lockers were made variously from plywood, steel sheet or aluminium.
I was dealt a severe lesson on the dangers of carrying such hard and heavy items as jacks in the cab when, after chucking mine into the nearside footwell “just until later”, I managed to turn the whole plot onto it’s offside while engaged in saving the life of an idiot car driver. A five-ton hydraulic jack is not the sort of thing you want hitting you in the side of your head before breakfast time!
Can’t argue with that mate, but to be fair, you were an O/D, am I right ? Whereas we were just hired help. If I’d had my own motor, I’d have spent my leisure time building storage boxes. As it was, no one intimated that I would be recompensed for spending the weekend making improvements to their crappy wagons just so that they could put me on a different wagon the following week. ’ ipso facto ’ everything went in the cab. End of.
Know what you mean, Eddie. At various times I was employed, both by decent firms and by the Stetson & Six-gun brigade, as well as the old Red & Rust. I have also been an employer, owner-driver and working manager, but I always made sure that any prospective employer knew that I had rules as well as him! I insisted on being provided with a hosepipe (Harry is laughing, now!) and sufficient paid time to make what I considered to be improvements in order to make my job easier and more efficient. Of course, this was mostly in those “good old days” when the whole country was crying out for lorries and people to drive them, so there was the opportunity to do a bit of dealing before you accepted the job.
Bewick:
A load of parent tissue reels from Disley Mill stood in the depot at Milnthorpe.
The big tissue reels bring back memories dennis.Used to load similar ones out of chatham dock to frannie lee,s at Bolton.Bit of a handful,flysheet down side and trl sheets to finish.
regards dave.
YES Harry corner boards were signed for and supplied from Wigan BRS, for HARLSDEN as we were connected to BRS.
Eddie I agree with all you have said ,when you worked for any haulage company you did as they said, and you carried what you could, and no way in this world would you have been able to put anything on any motor .box or anything, why would you it was not yours.
we never ever carried jacks or wheel- brace, that all come in with owner drivers .until for me I started on euro…1980.
This was my second motor and the driver had been brought up “old school” and wanted a storage box to hold his gear ,various, which I readily agreed to have fitted at the Body shop to his requirements. Amongst the gear carried was Jack, wheelbrace, reel bar, big bag of wedges, chain and dwang,pinch bar and hammer plus a few nails and a gallon of oil! This was the only trailer that we ever fitted with a storage box although I recall that in the mid 70’s I bought five or six secondhand Boden (C/F) 40 footers which came out of a firm from Oldham IIRC and these trailers each had a large cabinet that fitted between the chassis and the door was in the middle above the u/run bar they were like bloody coffins must have been 6ft deep up to the back axle. Obviously they were made to carry a set of sheets but they were always very damp from memory so we eventually stripped them off. We never needed to carry copious amounts of gear on our motors as the main of our traffic was paper industry based as well as pallet loads so apart from a few wedges and a back scotch that was it. If we needed chains or straps we issued them as and when. Cheers Dennis.
Found this shot of one of those trailers with the cabinet, we ran them on the fleet immediately I bought them then thinking back when it came to their MOT we removed the “coffin” and repainted them our colour. These two trailers are standing loaded with Reed Paper for Barrow at the small depot we had at Hockliffe on the A5 at Dunstable
Dennis just a shot of inspiration, the ■■■■■■■■ registered Scania may have belonged to Geordie Hodgson from Cockermouth an owner driver and an ex Johnstones Gilcrux man. I havent seen him for about 40 years until that night last September at the Fletchertown slide show where he was sitting in front of me. He is now well into his 80s , we had a good chatfor a while.
Cheers Leyland 600
Leyland600:
Dennis just a shot of inspiration, the ■■■■■■■■ registered Scania may have belonged to Geordie Hodgson from Cockermouth an owner driver and an ex Johnstones Gilcrux man. I havent seen him for about 40 years until that night last September at the Fletchertown slide show where he was sitting in front of me. He is now well into his 80s , we had a good chatfor a while.
Cheers Leyland 600
Well now then Gerald, the mystery has got to be solved and you appear to be the Marra who can sort it ! Honestly ,I haven’t a clue as to it’s previous owner only that it was a very tidy unit ex Marra Land. ( I never bought anything else bur decent motors from ower’t top eh!, but the ex Markley 112 came close to the edge but it still gave us sterling service ) But the name G ?(E) Hodgson doesn’t ring a bell and I don’t think it was their motor! as I recall them loading for Smiths in the Mill at Beetham. However, you are the sleuth on the grund eh! so get digging Marra eh! Cheers Dennis.
Retired Old ■■■■:
Know what you mean, Eddie. At various times I was employed, both by decent firms and by the Stetson & Six-gun brigade, as well as the old Red & Rust. I have also been an employer, owner-driver and working manager, but I always made sure that any prospective employer knew that I had rules as well as him! I insisted on being provided with a hosepipe (Harry is laughing, now!) and sufficient paid time to make what I considered to be improvements in order to make my job easier and more efficient. Of course, this was mostly in those “good old days” when the whole country was crying out for lorries and people to drive them, so there was the opportunity to do a bit of dealing before you accepted the job.
Hiya,
What’s a hosepipe, ROF ■■ I hope your’e not going to make a habit of talking dirty.
thanks harry, long retired.
Cheers Dennis.
) secondhand Atkis ex Barnett & Graham and one from Mullens Motors Appleby,they were all decent stuff and fairly newish. I also bought an F88 and near new 40ft C/F trailer from a chap called Brian Pennington from about Cockermouth IIRC, the F88 was origionally ex W H Malcolm but it had those early small diameter wheel nuts which weren’t compatable with the rest of the fleet. I also recall buying a 40ft C/F trailer off a firm called Iveson IIRC. Useless info but the old memory can still dredge up some nuggets if someone gives a starter for 10 eh! Cheers Dennis.
Cheers Dennis.
Seriously, after Bibbys sold Disley Mill to Kruger Tissue they put in a new access road across the valley and did away with using the old road up to the A6.Cheers Dennis.
