ramone:
Bewick:
ramone:
Bewick:
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You gonna tell us more Dennis it was certainly roped and sheeted ok?
It was a Bowater Scott load of Andrex ex Barrow for West Thurrock RDC,it was the only load out of '000’s we caried from Barrow,on flats, over the 13 years we ran out of Barrow that we “lost”.This catasrophe happened late one friday afternoon on the A590 at Newby Bridge at the south end of Lake Windermere.The driver responsible is the one in the maroon trousers(he wouldn’t turn to be photographed!!!) He managed to get it onto the lay-bye and we pulled another artic up along the nearside,on the grass.We transhipped it and didn’t lose a “carton”,Phew!!! Didn’t last too long at Bewick Transport that driver though!!!The driver never sheeted and roped that load,he only changed trailers!! Cheers Dennis.
Ah so it sounds like he was a formula 1 driver Dennis?
Yea “ramone” he had been chasing back to the depot to get finnished!! But he was rather late out on the “beer” that night !!!
Dave the Renegade:
kevmac47:
Is he bending over for “punishment” Dennis 
regards kevmac47
Looks as if he needed a roll for himself,that’s why the load slipped 
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Cheers Dave.
hiya,
Reckon i’d have needed a few rolls when that lot appeared in the nearside mirror that would make you nip your bottom.
thanks harry long retired.
kevmac47:
Is he bending over for “punishment” Dennis regards kevmac47
The bloke bending over was Mick Wilson RIP our foreman,we were just about to drive the empty motor alongside,I think Mick must have seen something in the grass! Sadly Mick went off i’ll in early Jan '78 and died suddenly at home a couple of weeks later,apparently he’d had an un-diagnosed heart problem from having had ruhmatic fever as a youngster.His GP told him to get himself out of bed,which he did,and walked into his lounge and collapsed,stone dead.He had come to Bewick Transport from Nelsons of Arnside and at the time he passed away he had worked for us for about 4 years,first on nights then shunting at Milnthorpe and then into the traffic office as assistant manager.I got him his CPC which turned up a week or so after he passed away,I still have it in my archive box.Mick was 41 when he died.Sad times,Dennis.
Dennis I have seen a load which had moved a lot more than the one in your photo it was in the 70s at Watford gap services Gregs and myself had just had a break and 2 of McBurney Brothers pulled in one was a fridge and the other was a flat whose load had moved a lot so we watched while the fridge wagon backed up to the flat to try and shove the load back which he did a bit but the load was record cover sleeves so it straightened one bit but made another bit worse so we suggested for him to cut the ropes and re-stack the load which everyone agreed was the best way so we stayed and gave the 2 Irish lads a hand for the next 3 hours and ended up having to park up there ( but there was a pub up the service road ) when we had reloaded it and sheeted and roped it the Irish lads wanted to buy us a meal which we refused but had a pot of tea with them as you never know when you would need the favor returning and I can still remember the record sleeves were for “Helen Reddy” The World is Full of Married Men but I never wanted to listen to the bloody thing having hand balled what seemed like millions of the record sleeves which were loaded just in bundles and were very glossy cardboard so very slippery the driver said he had just picked the trailer up and he had not loaded it or roped and sheeted it.
cheers Johnnie
Roping and Sheeting?
You old duffers are way behind the times.
What you do now is use a curtainsider and no matter what you are carrying,any shape, any size,all you need to do is put whatever it is on a pallet and even if it is hanging off the pallet just put some shrinkwrap round it,put it on the trailer,there is no need to strap it down,the shrinkwrap will prevent it moving,shut your curtains and off you go.
Its the wonder of shrinkwrap.
Felt sorry for a Stillers driver one day, he was carrying those coiled steel loads they always seemed to be running around with, anyway one side had come off and although it hadn’t touched the ground or even came out of the sheets, just looked like a huge caterpillar flopped over the side of the trailer, bet it took a while to sort that lot out and fortunately he had got into a layby, even so I expect he lost ten years seeing that come over the side. Franky.
loader8:
Roping and Sheeting?
You old duffers are way behind the times.
What you do now is use a curtainsider and no matter what you are carrying,any shape, any size,all you need to do is put whatever it is on a pallet and even if it is hanging off the pallet just put some shrinkwrap round it,put it on the trailer,there is no need to strap it down,the shrinkwrap will prevent it moving,shut your curtains and off you go.
Its the wonder of shrinkwrap.
hiya,
What with shrinkwrap and cable ties, isn’t it a wonderful world nowt can possibly fall apart.
thanks harry long retired.
harry_gill:
loader8:
Roping and Sheeting?
You old duffers are way behind the times.
What you do now is use a curtainsider and no matter what you are carrying,any shape, any size,all you need to do is put whatever it is on a pallet and even if it is hanging off the pallet just put some shrinkwrap round it,put it on the trailer,there is no need to strap it down,the shrinkwrap will prevent it moving,shut your curtains and off you go.
Its the wonder of shrinkwrap.
hiya,
What with shrinkwrap and cable ties, isn’t it a wonderful world nowt can possibly fall apart.
thanks harry long retired.
Old duffers,bollo***,how old are you and has tha got a pocket full of cable ties like Harry mentioned?
loader8:
Roping and Sheeting?
You old duffers are way behind the times.
What you do now is use a curtainsider and no matter what you are carrying,any shape, any size,all you need to do is put whatever it is on a pallet and even if it is hanging off the pallet just put some shrinkwrap round it,put it on the trailer,there is no need to strap it down,the shrinkwrap will prevent it moving,shut your curtains and off you go.
Its the wonder of shrinkwrap.
What a “loader 8” of “cobblers” sounds to me like you couldn’t “load a rifle”!!! I’ve seen and heard “star men” like you spouting before about “sticking” anything in a curtainsider,close curtains,then off like a rocket—somewhere along the road or at a roundabout,the load comes straight through the curtains and “ace” is stood there with his mouth open wondering what happened ( ■■■■■■■■■)! Fair enough,curtainsiders revolutionised the industry but the downside is they further reduced the “skill base” regarding the proper loading and securing of the the load being carried.It seems to be a commonly held belief nowadays that you close the curtains and the cargo shouldn’t move whatever antics the driver performs!! “Bring back the sheets and ropes movement” That will sort the boys out from the old duffers!!! Cheers Bewick.
hiya,
Bring back the knotted rope I say it was a surefire cure for unruly whippersnappers and cheeky monkeys.
thanks harry long retired.
sammyopisite:
Harry and Chris I reckon he’s a wind up merchant and besides you two would be the same as me well and truly bollocksed as you would be half a hour looking for the gear stick then you would find there is no clutch pedal and all those buttons lights and bells and whistles would make you take to the bottle in a big way so we would never get as far as a trailer and what with no log sheets you would tell em to stick the bloody job. 
cheers Johnnie
He,s so right.
You would be scouring the cab for window winders etc.Then if you worked out how to get it moving,off onto the M6,into that safe middle lane and off you go.
As you sweep majestically along,reaching speeds approaching almost forty miles per hour, and not really understanding why or how the motor is changing gear, watching the traffic pass you on both sides,all those friendly drivers raising their fists to wave to you,and thinking Eeeeh ba goom,this is great ,this is great ,without any warning the incontinence strikes,but luckily these new fangled motors have leather seats,so no damage there.
Lorry driving now is an easy life.
Most of these drivers now have never seen a rope or sheet,never mind know what to do with them.
loader8:
sammyopisite:
Harry and Chris I reckon he’s a wind up merchant and besides you two would be the same as me well and truly bollocksed as you would be half a hour looking for the gear stick then you would find there is no clutch pedal and all those buttons lights and bells and whistles would make you take to the bottle in a big way so we would never get as far as a trailer and what with no log sheets you would tell em to stick the bloody job.
cheers Johnnie
He,s so right.
You would be scouring the cab for window winders etc.Then if you worked out how to get it moving,off onto the M6,into that safe middle lane and off you go.
As you sweep majestically along,reaching speeds approaching almost forty miles per hour, and not really understanding why or how the motor is changing gear, watching the traffic pass you on both sides,all those friendly drivers raising their fists to wave to you,and thinking Eeeeh ba goom,this is great ,this is great ,without any warning the incontinence strikes,but luckily these new fangled motors have leather seats,so no damage there.
Lorry driving now is an easy life.
Most of these drivers now have never seen a rope or sheet,never mind know what to do with them.
Most of the older wagons would be going much faster than 40mph loader8,as you well know,as you are an ex Smiths of Maddiston man.Most of the lorries in the 60’s and 70’s would do a fair speed once you got them rolling.All these fancy motors have got all this power,but half of it doesn’t get used,due to speed limiters and all the other electronic crap in them.
Get some of the old artics out on the M6 and run them down to London on the motorway and they would ■■■■ all over the new stuff.
Cheers Dave.
I gave the “snide” coments of the “wind up merchant” a bit of thought last night,and I reckon us “duffers” are just resigning ourselves to having to accept that we would be unable to operate in to-days modern industry! However I am convinced we are selling ourselves way short of what would be actual reality! I believe I could come up with two scenarios that would be as close to the actual outcome if it were possible to implement.Lets take a round trip from say Glasgow to London A) carried out with to-days state of the art equipment and a current type of load,and driven by one of us “Duffers”.B) turn the clock back 50 odd years and using a state of the art motor of the times together with the type of traffic carried at the time,but driven by one of todays “steering wheel” jockeys! If my idea is not shot down in flames in the next few hours I will be back on the thread later on to-day when I will try to be as descriptive as possible of the two scenarios I have described!!! Cheers Dennis.
1 from my early days, bales of rags, did many an artic as well but never had a camera to take a photo of them, Dad showed me all the knots once & told me do it right the 1st time & you will not have to do it again until you get to the delivery, so I hated flapping sheet especially when i never loaded it
I remember one load came in from France 4 sheets all inside out lots of french dollies (XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX) striped them all off rooled them up as the load didn’t needed to be sheeted anyway probably why the french driver did it.
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