roping and sheeting

5thwheel:
Rockery stone by any chance Dennis?

David

Correct David ! One of many loads of water worn rockery we hauled off Orton Scar for ■■■■■■■ Stone Ltd and delivered them down to the affluent garden centres in the South East ! That ali floored Atky 4 wheeler was ideal for the job and that is a shot my Brother took at The Aviary cafe just south of Hinkley Knight on the A5. Cheers Dennis.

Dennis Javelin:

Buzzer:
Sorry to say this will be my last post on the roping & sheeting thread as I have had a clipping of my wings so to speak from one of the moderator’s of TNUK, this saddens me but this has been brought about by my recent posting pictures of a well known haulage company & someone objecting to this thus going to the moderators of TNUK to complain even though the images were obtained from FB which is in the public domain. Most of you will be able to work out who the person is by previous recent posts.
One does enjoy doing what comes naturally when retired having spent a career in the industry and looking back and that surely is the aim of TNUK but sad to say one person can destroy many others pleasure, Buzzer.

Shock, horror. Internet poster takes images that are publicly available on another website and reposts them on a specialist forum for the enjoyment of a wider audience - who would have thought that this would be allowed in this day and age :unamused: :unamused:

FWIW I always enjoy your posts, frequently making them my first port of call when I visit this site. Why some people take offence at pics being displayed without referring back to the person who took them originally is baffling. Especially when the pics are over 30 or 40 years old. Some people need to get a grip of themselves and stop being ■■■■.

I wonder how many pics the complainer has put on here without acknowledgment :unamused: :unamused:

Exactly. Some folk are just plain daft.

Dipster:

Dennis Javelin:

Buzzer:
Sorry to say this will be my last post on the roping & sheeting thread as I have had a clipping of my wings so to speak from one of the moderator’s of TNUK, this saddens me but this has been brought about by my recent posting pictures of a well known haulage company & someone objecting to this thus going to the moderators of TNUK to complain even though the images were obtained from FB which is in the public domain. Most of you will be able to work out who the person is by previous recent posts.
One does enjoy doing what comes naturally when retired having spent a career in the industry and looking back and that surely is the aim of TNUK but sad to say one person can destroy many others pleasure, Buzzer.

Shock, horror. Internet poster takes images that are publicly available on another website and reposts them on a specialist forum for the enjoyment of a wider audience - who would have thought that this would be allowed in this day and age :unamused: :unamused:

FWIW I always enjoy your posts, frequently making them my first port of call when I visit this site. Why some people take offence at pics being displayed without referring back to the person who took them originally is baffling. Especially when the pics are over 30 or 40 years old. Some people need to get a grip of themselves and stop being ■■■■.

I wonder how many pics the complainer has put on here without acknowledgment :unamused: :unamused:

Exactly. Some folk are just plain daft.

Unfortunately some people don’t know what to moan about next.

A lot of people nowadays go out of their way to find something to be offended by… ■■■■ em… :unamused:

Did’nt know you done water storage as well ? :smiley:

m.a.n rules:
Did’nt know you done water storage as well ? :smiley:

Must of collected that day or was it the sun… :laughing: joking apart mate alway’s a tidy outfit back in the day… :wink:

Bewick:
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Hiya,
Dennis can’t make out the reg on the little rigid Atki, just
wondering "with the “little tlt” on the top was it one of
Billy Bowkers or Suttons,hope your keeping well mate.

For them wot don’t know , there’s a 9 square mile area of Yorkshire between Wakefield , Rothwell and Morley that’s dubbed ‘ The Rhubarb Triangle ‘ , due to the amount of early forced rhubarb that’s produced in that particular region .

There was mention of it on the telly not long ago actually .

Wikipedia goes on to say that rhubarb originated in Siberia , and is therefore well suited to the cold wet conditions that frequently prevail in the White Rose County.

The thing that surprises me however is that ‘ The Rhubarb Triangle ‘ doesn’t cover an area between Northallerton , Hull and Todmorden …
… I would hesitate to classify the climate around either Selby or Penistone as being sub tropical either .

Wikipedia makes no mention of how to sheet and rope loose rhubarb unfortunately .

Dennis Javelin:

Buzzer:
Sorry to say this will be my last post on the roping & sheeting thread as I have had a clipping of my wings so to speak from one of the moderator’s of TNUK, this saddens me but this has been brought about by my recent posting pictures of a well known haulage company & someone objecting to this thus going to the moderators of TNUK to complain even though the images were obtained from FB which is in the public domain. Most of you will be able to work out who the person is by previous recent posts.
One does enjoy doing what comes naturally when retired having spent a career in the industry and looking back and that surely is the aim of TNUK but sad to say one person can destroy many others pleasure, Buzzer.

Shock, horror. Internet poster takes images that are publicly available on another website and reposts them on a specialist forum for the enjoyment of a wider audience - who would have thought that this would be allowed in this day and age :unamused: :unamused:

FWIW I always enjoy your posts, frequently making them my first port of call when I visit this site. Why some people take offence at pics being displayed without referring back to the person who took them originally is baffling. Especially when the pics are over 30 or 40 years old. Some people need to get a grip of themselves and stop being ■■■■.

I wonder how many pics the complainer has put on here without acknowledgment :unamused: :unamused:

Agreed, zealot killjoy complaint. Most of us enjoy and appreciate what you do, Buzzer. We all know you didn’t take most of the photos, but merely repost pictures, already in the public domain. I can’t see any harm in that. It appears to me that the complainant has a personal gripe with Buzzer, why else would he get pleasure from denying a gentleman, in his twilight years from pursuing a harmless hobby?
If the policy were to spread to all posters, there’d be no photos on the forum.
We’ve seen no genuine justification, from the complainant, for his vexatious complaint.

Star down under.:

Dennis Javelin:

Buzzer:
Sorry to say this will be my last post on the roping & sheeting thread as I have had a clipping of my wings so to speak from one of the moderator’s of TNUK, this saddens me but this has been brought about by my recent posting pictures of a well known haulage company & someone objecting to this thus going to the moderators of TNUK to complain even though the images were obtained from FB which is in the public domain. Most of you will be able to work out who the person is by previous recent posts.
One does enjoy doing what comes naturally when retired having spent a career in the industry and looking back and that surely is the aim of TNUK but sad to say one person can destroy many others pleasure, Buzzer.

Shock, horror. Internet poster takes images that are publicly available on another website and reposts them on a specialist forum for the enjoyment of a wider audience - who would have thought that this would be allowed in this day and age :unamused: :unamused:

FWIW I always enjoy your posts, frequently making them my first port of call when I visit this site. Why some people take offence at pics being displayed without referring back to the person who took them originally is baffling. Especially when the pics are over 30 or 40 years old. Some people need to get a grip of themselves and stop being ■■■■.

I wonder how many pics the complainer has put on here without acknowledgment :unamused: :unamused:

Agreed, zealot killjoy complaint. Most of us enjoy and appreciate what you do, Buzzer. We all know you didn’t take most of the photos, but merely repost pictures, already in the public domain. I can’t see any harm in that. It appears to me that the complainant has a personal gripe with Buzzer, why else would he get pleasure from denying a gentleman, in his twilight years from pursuing a harmless hobby?
If the policy were to spread to all posters, there’d be no photos on the forum.
We’ve seen no genuine justification, from the complainant, for his vexatious complaint.

Couldn’t agree more SDU Buzzer has been a staunch supporter of bringing the way we do things here on the other side of the world which has put a good mixture of opinions etc between the european way and ours with some good natured banter my only answer is to boycott the site myself .

Dig

Lets just put the record straight.

Buzzer has been asked time and time again to just credit where the pictures come from had he done that it would have been the end of it, but no, he has blatantly refused thinking it is some kind of game.

He also seems to have forgot the rules on here…

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moomooland:
Lets just put the record straight.

Buzzer has been asked time and time again to just credit where the pictures come from had he done that it would have been the end of it, but no, he has blatantly refused thinking it is some kind of game.

He also seems to have forgot the rules on here…

Copyright and photo’s-
Post by Rikki-UK » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:55 pm

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Well said. It’s only a matter of common courtesy and good manners to acknowledge a source. How sad that courtesy is viewed with derision by a few vocal people on here.

240 Gardner:

moomooland:
Lets just put the record straight.

Buzzer has been asked time and time again to just credit where the pictures come from had he done that it would have been the end of it, but no, he has blatantly refused thinking it is some kind of game.

He also seems to have forgot the rules on here…

Copyright and photo’s-
Post by Rikki-UK » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:55 pm

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Well said. It’s only a matter of common courtesy and good manners to acknowledge a source. How sad that courtesy is viewed with derision by a few vocal people on here.

It’s not as simple as that. If you go onto an online site and save a picture from it, you are in a position to note who posted the picture and in some cases, note to whom the picture should be credited. In those cases it can be courteous to acknowledge your source.

However, if you do what people like Buzzer and I do: ie go into Google images, where there are thousands of truck pictures that have been copied and re-copied upteen times, you end up with no source to acknowledge.

For example, there’s a picture of a BOC Euroshield E-series ERF and fridge trailer that I took in Paris when I was parked up there thirty years ago. That picture is all over the internet with no trace of me attached to it. I posted it on TruckNet about 13 yrs ago and it went viral like thousands of other pictures in the public domain. That’s the reality. The difference is that I don’t mind: I’m only glad that people are enjoying that image and it hasn’t gone to waste.

Exactly, I have no issues acknowledging who took a photo, if I know who did so.
At the end of the day they’re simple snapshots, taken for people to see and enjoy, it’s not War and Peace.
I don’t care who reposts any photo I’ve put on the internet. If I didn’t want other people to enjoy them, I wouldn’t have posted them.

ERF-NGC-European:

240 Gardner:

moomooland:
Lets just put the record straight.

Buzzer has been asked time and time again to just credit where the pictures come from had he done that it would have been the end of it, but no, he has blatantly refused thinking it is some kind of game.

He also seems to have forgot the rules on here…

Copyright and photo’s-
Post by Rikki-UK » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:55 pm

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This also applies to images scanned from magazines, again we cannot check wether every image on here is copyrighted, but if you believe an image that you own the copyright too is being used without your permission please e-mail us at the above e-mail address

Members please note.

There are fairly stringent copyright laws that we have to obey, just because a image is shown on the internet or you bought it from a trader does not mean that it is available to be posted, copied or directly linked to for display on the internet. If we are contacted by the owners of copyrighted images we will/may to remove the image from your post.

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trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewto … 28&t=73304

4

Well said. It’s only a matter of common courtesy and good manners to acknowledge a source. How sad that courtesy is viewed with derision by a few vocal people on here.

It’s not as simple as that. If you go onto an online site and save a picture from it, you are in a position to note who posted the picture and in some cases, note to whom the picture should be credited. In those cases it can be courteous to acknowledge your source.

However, if you do what people like Buzzer and I do: ie go into Google images, where there are thousands of truck pictures that have been copied and re-copied upteen times, you end up with no source to acknowledge.

For example, there’s a picture of a BOC Euroshield E-series ERF and fridge trailer that I took in Paris when I was parked up there thirty years ago. That picture is all over the internet with no trace of me attached to it. I posted it on TruckNet about 13 yrs ago and it went viral like thousands of other pictures in the public domain. That’s the reality. The difference is that I don’t mind: I’m only glad that people are enjoying that image and it hasn’t gone to waste.

That’s all fine but, in the case of the Riding website, for example, it has cost thousands to put together, and certain individuals ae blatantly lifting photos which can only have come from there. On Facebook, there is one person who revels in taking photos and giving no credit, and positively gloats in doing so - he’s very proud of himself. Incidentally, Facebook’s own guidelines say, in essence: if it’s not yours, don’t post it.

Star down under.:
Exactly, I have no issues acknowledging who took a photo, if I know who did so.
At the end of the day they’re simple snapshots, taken for people to see and enjoy, it’s not War and Peace.
I don’t care who reposts any photo I’ve put on the internet. If I didn’t want other people to enjoy them, I wouldn’t have posted them.

Your last sentence sums it up. If you were that bothered about your intellectual property rights you would surely either have jealously guarded the image in your possession or marked it as copyrighted when posting.

While having some sympathy with Moomooland’s and 240Gardner’s point of view, I think it best if at all possible to attribute anything you copy from elsewhere, it only takes a minute. I see many people write ‘nmp’ sometimes. I don’t go that far if I don’t know the origin or ownership but do attribute if I can.

I do believe though that it is not a rule of this site to do so, only an encouragement, which seems about right to me.

Many years ago here, there was a great debate, and a vote, about fuzzing or not fuzzing reg. nos. of vehicles in photos. My opinion at the time was that they are already in the public domain simply by being on the road, and I am pleased to see that that view seems to be current here nowadays. :smiley:

Lets put the real record straight here, all I have done here is repost a picture from FB which I have done hundreds of times on multiple threads on TNUK. It appears to me that Moomooland must have exclusive rights to any images of W.J.Riding & no one else is allowed to post them with out recognition, this as Ro stated is almost impossible as on FB & other sources there is invariably no mention of the rights of a shot, also Moomooland you have never contacted me directly but only made a comment on the picture that there was no recognition.
The company I established in International transport over 50 years ago and is still trading today also has a thread on TNUK, many pictures we have posted on our own thread have been borrowed if you will and used else ware some actually being sold on and to boot they have been stamped over as if they have the right to profit from those shots. In this case I am not doing this just reproducing pictures from other avenues and there have been no complaints about other company’s featured in my posts.
This all seems very petty to say the least and according to fellow posters on TNUK they enjoy my input on here, the last picture posted by me I stated would be my last on this thread but in hindsight I will review that statement and not post any pictures of the afore mentioned company to avoid any further conflict but carry on with other less sensitive material.
So Moomooland you may now retire back into your private life with your personal collection of W.J.Riding archives with out further intrusion from me, Buzzer