I can only recall dolly as describing the “knot”,however it’s not really a knot,it’s a device or hitch surely?
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Seems to be called a Truckers hitch, what a load of crap when we were roping and sheeting we wasn’t called truckers, and most of today’s truckers can’t even tie one. Les.
Yeah the Dolly Knot is a variation of the Farmers Sheepshank and is a Shortening Knot, the Farmer would fasten a Sheep to a post so it could eat the required amount of grass around the area of the post and to a distance the knot allowed then adjust it to allow grazing further out if needed. The Farmer and I would expect Cartmen also used the knot to secure loads leaving or being collected from Farms etc and the use widened from Horse drawn to Motorised transport, it has to be one of the oldest and vastly used knots certainly in this country outside of the Navy. Franky.
Hi Franky, Great stories about the type of knots that various concerns used, I was taught in the 50s how to secure any kind of load that I was to carry by The older drivers that were at Baxters on the Quayside, They all made it clear that the only way to Sheet & Rope your load was the way they showed me, Well Im very pleased to say I never had any problems, Their knowledge of course was from their younger days learning from their Mentors like I did from them, Take care my friend & hope to see you at the next Drivers bash in the Labour Club, Regards Larry.
Frankydobo:
Yeah the Dolly Knot is a variation of the Farmers Sheepshank and is a Shortening Knot, the Farmer would fasten a Sheep to a post so it could eat the required amount of grass around the area of the post and to a distance the knot allowed then adjust it to allow grazing further out if needed. The Farmer and I would expect Cartmen also used the knot to secure loads leaving or being collected from Farms etc and the use widened from Horse drawn to Motorised transport, it has to be one of the oldest and vastly used knots certainly in this country outside of the Navy. Franky.
Hence S d u half sheepshank Franky, but where does Wako come in on the deal ?
Well Coomsey the article referring to a Wakos Transport Knot was said to have been in an Army Survival manual that he had read. This could be military slang being used, the army use terms and phrases the civilian world has never heard of, sometimes they reach over into civilian use but most don’t. During my time in the 70’s an HGV was known as a Woofer, because when it passed you on the Motorway or Autobahn it went Wooof! There are all sorts of daft descriptive words or phrases used and today there will be more that I haven’t heard since ending my military connections in the early 2000’s, and I haven’t came across that one. I do go on ex services sites so I’ll ask if anyone can shed light here. Cheers Franky.
Well speaking of sheeting & roping, I was taught by the best in the 50s like Ive mentioned before, But there was one driver who worked for Baxters couldnt sheet or rope to safe his life, In fact Im sure he was the one to take the credit for inventing the rope spanner, I remember going to West Thurrock with a load during one of the bad winters in the 60s, This ■■■■■■ had loaded the trailer at Procter & Gambles City Road Newcastle, He drove down to the Quayside with only the sheets on, Of course the load moved a bit, He then just roped it up in his tin pot style, I was in several Lay Byes Not for a kip, Just to tighten the sheet tiers & the ropes, When I returned with a return load of course I went to see the traffic manager called Alan Sutton who ran the traffic office in those days, & I said to him the problems I had with the way the trailer was loaded & sheeted & If he loaded another one that I was to take I would refuse because I wouldnt carry unsafe loads, He agreed with me & said that I could load my own trailers myself, I was very pleased that he took this action, The driver concerned went to work for another local firm but he didnt last long there anyway, He ended up driving a Transit Van doing local stuff for a builders merchant, Mind you Ive met a lot more like him who didnt give a ■■■■ about their loading etc. Regards Larry.
Well no joy on the Waco thing my old army pals hadn’t heard of such either, probably a derogatory term especially where lorry drivers are concerned the great unwashed public never have a good word for us anyway, never mind we can live with it! Yes Larry as one lad said to me when I was roping up at Fergies ‘Ah that’s a dying art I wouldn’t know where to start’. I said I’ll show you no problem but he just replied saying no way he’d stick with the Tautliners, just about sums it up eh! To be honest I preferred the flats. Aye hopefully we might get another do in the Toon near the end of the year Larry take care until then mate and watch out for those Wacos ha! Franky.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Very good Dennis, A proper driver , & no gloves , Well done mate,Regards Larry.
Gloves were never any good to me Larry and I don’t know how they were to anyone else but a lot of Shunters seemed to be able to do the job using gloves. Cheers Dennis.
Lawrence Dunbar:
Very good Dennis, A proper driver , & no gloves , Well done mate,Regards Larry.
Larry don’t fall for it ,it’s staged for propaganda Denzil is tricking us all as Mike P is holding the camera and gloves then they will swap !
Well Dan, Having a closer look he may have been using the fancy Latex ones, , Of course he will most likley denie this, What do you think Eh , Take care & stay safe, Regards Larry.