My last bit of roping and sheeting was 20 years ago this month. I was collecting mining gear from a farm on a hillside in Merthyr Tydfil ,sleet,snow ,rain ,wind and hail cow muck and mud on the ground ropes flicking in my face, freezing cold, sheet blowing all over the yard,hands and fingers ready to drop off (i could never rope up wearing gloves) a week later i was driving fridges for Tesco aaaahh luxury.As i said in earlier post a well roped and sheeted truck or trailer looks great but fridges and boxes are a little easier.
jessicas dad:
berewic:
K.Adams:
I came off nights to do trunking but then 2 drivers left and now Iam on days and nights away when he pleases to tell me. On days they do steel and alot of it and also a lot of flat work. Some sheets i have got to grips with it but others I aint got a clue the double sized ones and I still cant get to grips with the dolly knot etc.Who hates sheets and does anyone have any tips!
Incredible.
Can’t rope, can’t sheet and can’t even tie a dolly. You sure your in the right job?
neither can i but yes i am in the right job. at least he is here asking for info not sarky remarks of you.
All I can say is it’s a good thing the EU has brought in the driver CPC. I was not aware there were so many novices and it explains why so many lorries fall over on straight roads.
berewic:
All I can say is it’s a good thing the EU has brought in the driver CPC. I was not aware there were so many novices and it explains why so many lorries fall over on straight roads.
The CPC will not address those issues
berewic:
jessicas dad:
berewic:
K.Adams:
I came off nights to do trunking but then 2 drivers left and now Iam on days and nights away when he pleases to tell me. On days they do steel and alot of it and also a lot of flat work. Some sheets i have got to grips with it but others I aint got a clue the double sized ones and I still cant get to grips with the dolly knot etc.Who hates sheets and does anyone have any tips!
Incredible.
Can’t rope, can’t sheet and can’t even tie a dolly. You sure your in the right job?
neither can i but yes i am in the right job. at least he is here asking for info not sarky remarks of you.
All I can say is it’s a good thing the EU has brought in the driver CPC. I was not aware there were so many novices and it explains why so many lorries fall over on straight roads.
Is there anything you don’t kow about driving? I am just being curious, I can rope and sheet, but I wouldn’t have the first idea about driving cattle or running a fridge, but then I have never needed to know.does that make me a novice? I guess it does the way you see things, I’ve only been doing the job 32 years and I don’t know it all yet so what hope for the others■■?
i could tie a dolly before i could tie my laces as i was only about 5 stone i used to make a big loop and push down with my foot and my old man would come along and finish it off as i used to find the half hitches harder than dollies . also could throw a rope over when joined to a monkeys fist made by the old man !!!
On my way back from Leicester today with my van trailer ( which had been tipped & loaded while I had a kip) deep in thought wishing the economy would pick up , so I could maybe get back to General haulage & flats. Last 6 yrs tanks curtains shiftwork weekend work tescos Asdas Morrinson etc etc.
Before that 29yrs ropes & sheets normal week Mon//Fri/Sat. Had a month for a mate of mine in in Feb happiest I`ve been for a long time wished it had been permanent. LONG LIVE FLATWORK 
Just a footnote for the know it alls You are never to old to learn 
greek:
On my way back from Leicester today …
HUH 
that’s it… come to my city and ignore me… 
4 days a week Rog Sun to wed British Bakeries 2nd week now dont know how long it will last though.
Nearly a Leicester boy meself Lived in Thringstone till 1969 then moved back to North East passed me car test Hinkley.Thats when I started driving for a living after I came back up here 1965 Thames Trader
matt f:
also could throw a rope over when joined to a monkeys fist made by the old man !!!
I know i’m not the worlds foremost authority on R&S but what’s a monkeys fist?
jimti:
berewic:
jessicas dad:
berewic:
K.Adams:
I came off nights to do trunking but then 2 drivers left and now Iam on days and nights away when he pleases to tell me. On days they do steel and alot of it and also a lot of flat work. Some sheets i have got to grips with it but others I aint got a clue the double sized ones and I still cant get to grips with the dolly knot etc.Who hates sheets and does anyone have any tips!
Incredible.
Can’t rope, can’t sheet and can’t even tie a dolly. You sure your in the right job?
neither can i but yes i am in the right job. at least he is here asking for info not sarky remarks of you.
All I can say is it’s a good thing the EU has brought in the driver CPC. I was not aware there were so many novices and it explains why so many lorries fall over on straight roads.
Is there anything you don’t kow about driving? I am just being curious, I can rope and sheet, but I wouldn’t have the first idea about driving cattle or running a fridge, but then I have never needed to know.does that make me a novice? I guess it does the way you see things, I’ve only been doing the job 32 years and I don’t know it all yet so what hope for the others■■?
No not much. I’ve worked general haulage and all the variants that involves, flats, tanks, boxes, drop bodies, roll on/off, draw-bars, fridges, skips, tauts, tilts, low loaders, heavy haulage, hanging garments, lorry mounted cranes/grabs and car transporters. I’ve never done live stock but can’t imagine it being rocket science. If you drive as if you are on ice, I’m sure they will arrive safely
I don’t have ADR and I am a total novice in how to get a moffit off the back of a truck.
I’ve not heard that term before but can imagine it to mean tie a few loops in the rope in order to give it some weight. Helps on windy days and is better than the lump of 4x2 I’d use.
My boss showed me how to do that, now i know what it’s called! Cheers 
The opportunity for the younger drivers to learn the art of roping and sheeting nowadays is far harder than when I started driving HGVs in the mid eighties. Back then most, if not all general haulage firms had flatbeds, so you were learning off the old hands every day. Now it’s only certain companies that run flats, and even less that still rope and sheet. I haven’t tied a dolly in earnest in years, although I did pull the kitchen door handle off last year whilst trying to convince myself that I could still tie one, totally sober of course. 
Same here. Must be at least 5 years since I’ve done one, if not longer. Used to do a lot in the mid 90’s when I was running timber off Hull Docks.
Can’t say I miss it, especially with fewer and fewer drivers being willing to help you fold them up when you pull them off. Once upon a time, you’d turn up and virtually every driver on site would help you get your ropes off, pull the sheets off and fold it all up. Nowadays you’re lucky if one will. I still offer help, even though I’m not pulling a flat.
timmo:
I know i’m not the worlds foremost authority on R&S but what’s a monkeys fist?
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Yep, couldn’t agree more mate. I went with the old man through the 70s and early 80s . It was hard going, but as I recall everybody mucked in, whether it be with loading, breakdowns or getting you home on a dodgy. Time is money now more than ever. If you stop for a ■■■■ now, Isotrak wants to know why.
I learnt to R&S last year!!!
Still not perfect at it but then no load is the same so it takes time I guess, but I had a 30+ year veteran show me how to do dollys and how to place the sheet. It took me over 2 hours to do my first solo sheet but I was well pleased with the result, it was as tight as my wallet, and didn’t move from Woolaston too Plymouth!!!
First of all I misread this post, thought it was another Jeremy Clarkson post “■■■■■■ & shooting”
I was taught roping & sheeting on steel out of colnbrook, I believe teaches you about load security, & whan its done properly, ie no flappy bits no ropes dragging down the road etc, it is a reminder of how it used to be.
UnionJack:
First of all I misread this post, thought it was another Jeremy Clarkson post “■■■■■■ & shooting”I was taught roping & sheeting on steel out of colnbrook, I believe teaches you about load security, & whan its done properly, ie no flappy bits no ropes dragging down the road etc, it is a reminder of how it used to be.
Was that on slit or wire coils where chains were ok to generally hold to prevent them falling off but usually worked loose to some degree so a sheet had to be put over the load and then properly roped so the sheet would help stop movement 
back sheet on first pull sheet tight (pigs ear all four corners to secure
same with front sheet (overlap sheets
fold up if any slack in sheet (tuck under) tie off sheet with half hitch
then ready to rope dolly knot spread knot always tie off with a half hitch
then theirs away to learn to fold sheets and coil up ropes properley