Read carefully what guys are saying,the place is screwed.Just ask your mates back home if they’d swap places with you,lots of mine would.I’m constantly being told that we got out of England at the right time,read the online newspapers if in doubt.
We’re down in Lumsden so most of the job opportunities are in Regina,there’s lots of well paid work,be it driving or whatever.Mates in Saskatoon never seem to have difficulty finding work either,I might know of a city based job if you’re interested,mon-fri etc.
On a personal note,I would much rather raise a family in Saskatchewan than England,no contest,and this is a booming Province with a very bright future and many more openings for careers.
I lived & worked in Canada for a few months but came back for various reasons both personal & financial, but believe me if I was established over their as it seems you are I would’nt have dreamed of coming home, do youself a favour come over for a month by yourself do a bit of agency work or have a few rides out with a few members off here & see whats become of the job & the country & you’ll be first in the queue for a taxi back to the airport & trying to put your nightmares behind you.
Good luck with whatever you do either way, I realise family issues can be a strain but I’d not be running back here for a good while its sinking fast.
Fly sheet
Take it from me , after living in Canada with an up and coming Hockey team on the way why oh why would you come back to the BLACK country? they work for less, drive rates down so us Brummies have to find alternative work elsewhere the yammers have messed the building and transport work right up they work for pittance and get their family in and screw everything up… I’m not kidding there are yams driving a grab for £7.20 a hour on the grab/tipper and made up with it. Ask any Brimmie what they think of yam yams and their answer will be the same. By all means move back to the uk, but not to the black country unless you have a cousin who works for the benefits office then you too can screw us 
So to sumarise: Every ■■■■■■ that can ■■■■ off out of this ■■■■■■■ hole is ■■■■■■■ off as fast as they can ■■■■■■■ move.
Anyone who has already managed to get the ■■■■ out is best off ■■■■■■■ staying out!
And don’t ■■■■■■■ swear at me, OK? 
Big Jon’s dad:
So to sumarise: Every [zb] that can [zb] off out of this [zb] hole is [zb] off as fast as they can [zb] move.
Anyone who has already managed to get the [zb] out is best off [zb] staying out!And don’t [zb] swear at me, OK?
That about sums it up 
Know anyone hiring in Canada that isn’t a complete shyster? That will take me on pnp?
stay in canada,mate, don’t screw ya families life up by coming back to this zb hole, if i was in canada, (and god i wish i was) they would have to shoot me to come back here
Big Jon’s dad:
So to sumarise: Every [zb] that can [zb] off out of this [zb] hole is [zb] off as fast as they can [zb] move.
Anyone who has already managed to get the [zb] out is best off [zb] staying out!And don’t [zb] swear at me, OK?
Too ■■■■■■■ right & swear on for ■■■■■ sake 
Fly sheet
daleyboy:
Know anyone hiring in Canada that isn’t a complete shyster? That will take me on pnp?
If anyone answers you positively to knowing a non shyster outfit I will be on the next plane with you.
ppc25 stay where you are.
ppc25:
We have 85% made our minds up to come back home to the UK as we really miss family and friends alot and feel our kids are missing out on growing up with there family as well.
You only left 5 years ago so in reality not alot has changed since then. Yes, things are looking bleak on the economic front but it’s nothing this country hasn’t been through before during the early 70’s and late 80’s and early 90’s.
There are aload of moaning minnies on here saying we are all doomed and how they want to get out but don’t have the guts or gumption to do anything about it.
You made the move but it seems it hasn’t worked out. Only you and your family can decide what’s best but I think the words come back home mean alot.
Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.
[quote="daleyboy
Know anyone hiring in Canada that isn’t a complete shyster? [/quote]
Lots of trucking jobs are being advertised, many are from companies owned by brown people from what I hear. Not everyone is happy to work for brown people. It wouldn’t bother me if the pay was OK and the equipment was up to the mark. Being able to pass an English or French language test is one of the criteria these people or their ancestors had to meet to get into Canada themselves so understanding them shouldn’t be a huge problem unless they start jibbering.
[quote="daleyboy
That will take me on pnp?[/quote]
Ah! In that case, no. Almost all jobs require you to have residency or citizenship. PNP is only to fill positions that they can’t find Canadians to take. The company can get an LMO (Labour Market Opinion) which is like a permit from the government to take on a temporary worker from abroad which can lead to the grant of permanent residency when you have jumped through enough hoops and paid out the requisite fees. The companies that can’t find Canadians to fill their jobs are not the cream of the crop to say the least. There are other ways to emigrate besides PNP though if you can meet the requirements. LMOs are hard to get at the moment from comments I heard other people make…
[quote="Ian58There are aload of moaning minnies on here saying we are all doomed and how they want to get out but don’t have the guts or gumption to do anything about it.
There is a lot of truth in that statement. People that do something about it are the adventurers of this world. The more timid stay put and moan. Hasn’t it always been this way?
The settlers of the new world were self selecting to be able take on new challenges. Other weaker souls stayed behind as the UK lost much of it’s braver bloodstock to the colonies.
The process continues even now with the bleeding off of the optimists leaving behind all the pessimists.
I will be off to Canada too if my UK business suffers in this period of economic and employment turmoil. I can live and work in both Canada and the UK as I hold citizenship of both countries.
The last thing I would do is try to find a truck driving job in the UK even though I’ve held a UK class 1 licence for over 30 years.
Most of us realise the UK is overcrowded so we are trying to encourage the OP to stay over there. If he comes back here there will be even less room! Get with the progam will ya! Jeez! </tongue in cheek>
The trouble is big Jon is that there arent many companies offering lmos at the moment due to the economic downturn. I’ve tried a few like big freight, challenger, bison and a few others and none are hiring at the moment.
What ■■■■■■ me off is i had it all sorted to go over a couple of years ago but the missus changed her mind, now she can see how ■■■■ the uk is she’s now happy to move. Trouble is now finding companies that are offering lmos. H and r can probably still get them, but as they say there’s no smoke without fire.
All I want is a company that will put me in my own truck and give me 10k+ miles a month at a reasonable rate I’m happy to do 2+ weeks away.
Rem are hiring but I don’t really want to move to that area.
OK so it looks like a return to the UK is a very bad idea.
As for all you guys wanting to leave i have a bit of advice for you and this is all from experiance.
Trucking over here is not a job it is a lifestyle that you have to be commited to atleast until you get PR anyway. Tramping monday to fri isnt the same as doing two or three back to back trips to the states which is what would be expected of you and could see you bieng away from home for 8 to 18 days. Yes the trucks are more spacous, and theres less traffic and your not stuck at 90KPH. You do however get paid by the mile and run log books, so you dont get much time for sight seeing. to work 13 to 18 or more hours a day is normal. There are very few companies and i mean very very few where you run leagal, and you wont land a job with one on a pnp programme. Also if you get paid by the mile and run legal you will earn ■■■■ poor money. run two log books and you can push 75K a year(but wont see your family).
I know it seems i am painting a bad picture but its the truth and i got on with one of the better if not the best companies that hire UK drivers. Remmember all trucking companies are Crap some are just crappier than others.
I personally thought more of my family and left truck driving and now fix them instead.
so in saskatchewan there are 3 to 5 companies that will take you ona pnp. YANKE- steer well clear unless you really like to double man, which is compulsory for the first 2 years. out for average of 12days and the truck doesnt stop. I believe in alberta Yanke got pulled of the pnp programme because of treating drivers so bad.
Westcan, The pits, just google them
Siemens Group which consists of several companies. I went on with EDGE which is a flat deck.
this is the type of work i like besides the vans seem to have unusual delivery times at RDC’s like 2 am in the morn.
Try siemens first they are in no way brilliant to work for they are just the least worst of the bunch.
Let me know how you get on as i am friends with the head recruiter and also the guy that will train you to pass your driving test as well.
Any more questions just ask.
PS on a side not holy crap is it boring in saskatoon i need more adventure.
daleyboy:
The trouble is big Jon is that there arent many companies offering lmos at the moment due to the economic downturn. I’ve tried a few like big freight, challenger, bison and a few others and none are hiring at the moment.What ■■■■■■ me off is i had it all sorted to go over a couple of years ago but the missus changed her mind, now she can see how [zb] the uk is she’s now happy to move. Trouble is now finding companies that are offering lmos. H and r can probably still get them, but as they say there’s no smoke without fire.
All I want is a company that will put me in my own truck and give me 10k+ miles a month at a reasonable rate I’m happy to do 2+ weeks away.
Rem are hiring but I don’t really want to move to that area.
I’m not Big Jon, I’m his dad, but anyway…
If you can put up with the crap from H & R for a period until you get residency I’d go for it. As soon as you get residency you can find a better driving job. You can use these crap companies to get a toehold and when they have served your purpose you kick them into touch. Onwards and upwards, eh? BoL
ppc25:
I personally thought more of my family and left truck driving and now fix them instead.
As you are no longer OTR I guess you either have PR or citizenship? Which do you have? This is important because a citizen such as myself can come and go from Canada as and when we please and for as long as we please. We cannot lose our status by living outside of Canada. You can and will lose PR if you leave Canada for more than a shortish period. I can’t remember the exact details but you can look it up on the CIC site. As near as I can recall you have to reside in Canada for 4 out of every 5 years or it may be 3 out of 4 years. This is a rolling period so if you came back to the UK for more than a year you could lose your right to return to Canada. If you can get citizenship before you leave it would keep your options open.
daleyboy:
What ■■■■■■ me off is i had it all sorted to go over a couple of years ago but the missus changed her mind
Shudda dumped the missus. She must be one heck of a fit bird if you kept her instead of shipping out.
Plenty of fit birds over there. 
Big Jon’s dad:
[quote="Ian58There are aload of moaning minnies on here saying we are all doomed and how they want to get out but don’t have the guts or gumption to do anything about it.There is a lot of truth in that statement. People that do something about it are the adventurers of this world. The more timid stay put and moan. Hasn’t it always been this way?
The settlers of the new world were self selecting to be able take on new challenges. Other weaker souls stayed behind as the UK lost much of it’s braver bloodstock to the colonies.
The process continues even now with the bleeding off of the optimists leaving behind all the pessimists.I will be off to Canada too if my UK business suffers in this period of economic and employment turmoil. I can live and work in both Canada and the UK as I hold citizenship of both countries.
The last thing I would do is try to find a truck driving job in the UK even though I’ve held a UK class 1 licence for over 30 years.
There’s no way that all the bravery in the world can get round the issue of not being able to legally work across the Atlantic if the zb authorities over there are’nt as keen to allow those of us from the country that founded the colony to work there as the Brits are when it comes to allowing all and sundry to work here.It seems that the rules are’nt a lot different now than they were around 30 years ago when I was told yes Canada does take British immigrants IF you fit into one of the required types of workers doing jobs which Canadians are’nt available to do.Truck drivers did’nt fit into any of those criteria.Even if I had managed to do the impossible of getting a truck driving job I was told that the job would need to stay advertised and if a Canadian national wanted it then I’d be on the way back home pdq.It was all a bit different when we sent the first colonists over there to get the place on it’s feet as there was’nt a ‘Canadian’ government telling us that we were’nt allowed in. 
Sorry big jons (dad) 
Lol yeah the wife is a beauty, and I’m such an ugly spud I would never get one as good as her again so even though I’m 6"8 and 26 stone and she is 4"8 and 6 stone she still wears the trousers
As for work I’m not really fussed who I work for as long as I can get the miles in. I’m used to living in the truck for weeks at a time and as long as I can earn enough to support the family then I will be on my way. I spent 2 years reading and researching companies and the horror stories I’m reading have me worried. If I was on my own I would be on the next flight just for the adventure, but when you’ve got family I need to make sure I’m earning. And from what I’ve read you need to be doing 10k+ miles a month and what I’ve read about h and r and downtime not getting paid for layovers etc put me right off them.
BIG JOHNS DAD yes i have PR i got that quite a few years back and we have been here long enough to apply for citezenship as well. Tha law now is you must reside in canada 2 years in the last 5 years to keep your PR. If we do decide to come back we have a small window of a few years to change our minds and return, alternativly if we stay we shall apply for citezenship and get a dual passport, at the very least.
Carryfast:
There’s no way that all the bravery in the world can get round the issue of not being able to legally work across the Atlantic if the zb authorities over there are’nt as keen to allow those of us from the country that founded the colony to work there as the Brits are when it comes to allowing all and sundry to work here.It seems that the rules are’nt a lot different now than they were around 30 years ago when I was told yes Canada does take British immigrants IF you fit into one of the required types of workers doing jobs which Canadians are’nt available to do.Truck drivers did’nt fit into any of those criteria.Even if I had managed to do the impossible of getting a truck driving job I was told that the job would need to stay advertised and if a Canadian national wanted it then I’d be on the way back home pdq.It was all a bit different when we sent the first colonists over there to get the place on it’s feet as there was’nt a ‘Canadian’ government telling us that we were’nt allowed in.
Quite right too. Canada has enough home grown riff raff without importing more. If you can contribute to the well-being of the country you will be welcomed. As you weren’t welcome I can only conclude you have done something that precludes your entry. 
If only we had such policies in the UK, the place might not be so overrun eh? 
Is that blue pigeon joke still on here? That was brilliant.