NewLad:
I’m sure the you don’t have to give any notice for the first year, after that it’s a week, your employer however has to give you a week for every year upto 13 weeks.
You’re wrong. In the first few weeks you don’t have to give notice but after that the statutory minimum notice of one week applies unless your contract states a longer period.
And as of yet the OP hasn’t indicated what the agreed notice was.
I personally would have seen the week out then you would have a better case for the withheld wages… as it is you ran from wherever to the yard at a cost to your employer then your employer has to spot a driver to finish the work you failed to complete. … you could come unstuck fella especially if they say a verbal agreement followed by a contract to which they were to get you to sign come friday when you came back.
You must give them reasonable time to pay as well you must try to get your pay either by telephone call or letter then you may go to the small claims court it will cost a small amount if you say on the form you fill on line how much you think they owe you then it will ask for the fee from £60 for this
Send this all done on line then wait they can or may offer you an out of court settlement if this happens then you must tell the courts
I am in the process of doing this with a company who have also with held my P45 which they are not allowed to do
trubster:
Don’t just send a county court claim, you need to send a letter before action and give them time to respond first, or the court WILL throw it out at your expense.
I think the search term the OP needs is “Pre-action Protocol”
Slow yourself down boy.
Firstly, what date should you have been paid on?
If you are not paid on this date, send them an invoice. Send it again 4 weeks later. 90 days after you first sent the invoice send a Letter Before Claim. Give them at least 14 days to reply to your LBC before attempting Small Claims.
You can put all sorts of crap on the bottom of the invoice like “This must be paid within 14 days” but it doesn’t mean a thing, this is how big companies always get away with it.
as far as i am aware they have to pay you what you have worked,as regards the two big blokes i would not let them worry me for a minute,they would not do anything cos if they did it would just make it worse for them
Ben9:
So you will be earning £42000 ish a year and are bothered about £500■■?
Whilst yes there is a principle here is it worth it■■?
I worked for them for 6 days and the total with two nights out came to £546 so how you came to me earning £27000 pa I don’t know ? and its not the money its the fact they think they can just screw someone over and get away with it ! im lucky my wife earns a living but what if I had been a op with kids and bills I would of been down the creek without a paddle.
and whether its worth it ben is why I posted it on here to get opinions on the best route to take and whether I should put it down to experience
the story so far is they didn’t pay me any wages but paid me £10.50 for a parking receipt I gave them, so on Monday I,ll be phoning acas for advice on which way to go ? I informed my new employer about what had happened and he started me on Thursday so all was not lost and I got two days pay out of the week , the new employer said I could fuel my car up at cost in the yard but I have a petrol car but it was a nice offer anyway just goes to show not all employers ■■■■ in the same bucket.
4aaaa4dd:
after a few months out of work I started a new job last Wednesday 26th feb, but as with jobs and buses nothing comes for ages and then lots at once so on Tuesday 4th march I get a call offering me another job that pays £15,000 p/a more than the job ive just started but I must start on mon 10th of march ! well to be fair to the company im working for now I phoned them straight away ( Tuesday 4th ) and told them I would be leaving on fri 7th march , they have now turned round to me and told me if I don’t work my full weeks notice they will not pay me any money that I am owed ? so to get paid from these I must work until next Tuesday 11th march which I cant do because I have to start the new job on mon 6th march or lose it , I told the company im working for now that if they are not going to pay me for the last 6 days then im not going to do 2 more days for free and took the truck back to their yard and on arrival I was met with threats of court action for wasted diesel and time because I brought the truck back ( I think I was been quite decent to them I could have left it where it was after been told there not paying me ) , now what I need to now is do I have any legal rights even though I didn’t work my full notice or do I put it down to experience and move on…cheers in advance for any help.
I had the same with carefoots, as you proberbly know they are advertising every week, because your on peace work,running 15hrs for £70.00 but they are advertising at 30k who they trying to kid.
4aaaa4dd:
the story so far is they didn’t pay me any wages but paid me £10.50 for a parking receipt I gave them, so on Monday I,ll be phoning acas for advice on which way to go ? I informed my new employer about what had happened and he started me on Thursday so all was not lost and I got two days pay out of the week , the new employer said I could fuel my car up at cost in the yard but I have a petrol car but it was a nice offer anyway just goes to show not all employers ■■■■ in the same bucket.
Contacting ACAS is the best thing to do because all this talk of court proceedings forget one thing…you are in breech of contract by not giving enough notice. I would be interested what advice ACAS give you.
You’ve ■■■■■■ them around so why shouldn’t they do the same to you. Every company invests time in taking on a new employee on and you’ve decided to drop them in the ■■■■ by leaving.
Decent thing to have done would have given them some notice so they could sort a replacement. It’s not all one way traffic!
Plambert:
You’ve [zb] them around so why shouldn’t they do the same to you. Every company invests time in taking on a new employee on and you’ve decided to drop them in the [zb] by leaving.
Decent thing to have done would have given them some notice so they could sort a replacement. It’s not all one way traffic!
the company are called BRITANIA SUPER FINE if you feel sorry for them im sure they will welcome you with open arms lol…
Plambert:
You’ve [zb] them around so why shouldn’t they do the same to you. Every company invests time in taking on a new employee on and you’ve decided to drop them in the [zb] by leaving.
Decent thing to have done would have given them some notice so they could sort a replacement. It’s not all one way traffic!
the company are called BRITANIA SUPER FINE if you feel sorry for them im sure they will welcome you with open arms lol…
Don’t need a job thanks and not wanting to feel sorry for anyone. Just pointing out that there are plenty of people bleating on about how the company won’t do this and won’t do that, and drivers are all hard done by but many of the bleaters don’t help themselves.
Despite what you may think leaving a job at the drop of a hat for a coupe of quid does cause all sorts of problems with businesses and we shouldn’t wonder they are a bit ■■■■■■ off. Leaving on good terms - even if it means staying for a couple of days until they can find a replacement - should always be the preferred, grown-up option.
4aaaa4dd:
the story so far is they didn’t pay me any wages but paid me £10.50 for a parking receipt I gave them, so on Monday I,ll be phoning acas for advice on which way to go ? I informed my new employer about what had happened and he started me on Thursday so all was not lost and I got two days pay out of the week , the new employer said I could fuel my car up at cost in the yard but I have a petrol car but it was a nice offer anyway just goes to show not all employers ■■■■ in the same bucket.
Contacting ACAS is the best thing to do because all this talk of court proceedings forget one thing…you are in breech of contract by not giving enough notice. I would be interested what advice ACAS give you.
I contacted acas and they told me I didn’t need to give any notice with less than 1 months service but that goes both ways the employer didn’t need to give me any notice either, they also told me they have no legal right to deduct my wages and any money they think I owe them they have to claim back through small claims and not deducted from my wages , the advice they have given me is to in the first instance sent a formal letter asking for my wages within a reasonable time and if this doesn’t solve the problem then an industrial tribunal case will be started its all time consuming but if it shows them that there is a proper procedure when claiming so called costs.
Plambert:
You’ve [zb] them around so why shouldn’t they do the same to you. Every company invests time in taking on a new employee on and you’ve decided to drop them in the [zb] by leaving.
Decent thing to have done would have given them some notice so they could sort a replacement. It’s not all one way traffic!
the company are called BRITANIA SUPER FINE if you feel sorry for them im sure they will welcome you with open arms lol…
Don’t need a job thanks and not wanting to feel sorry for anyone. Just pointing out that there are plenty of people bleating on about how the company won’t do this and won’t do that, and drivers are all hard done by but many of the bleaters don’t help themselves.
Despite what you may think leaving a job at the drop of a hat for a coupe of quid does cause all sorts of problems with businesses and we shouldn’t wonder they are a bit ■■■■■■ off. Leaving on good terms - even if it means staying for a couple of days until they can find a replacement - should always be the preferred, grown-up option.
like I said give them a ring im sure you will be a perfect match , what if I had injured myself and not been leaving? what would they have done ? its not my problem they don’t have a back up plan and if 4 days notice isn’t sufficient for them then I don’t think one more day would of helped them ? im assuming you are an employer with your grown up comments and thinking that an employer not paying for work done is acceptable and ok…
Plambert:
You’ve [zb] them around so why shouldn’t they do the same to you. Every company invests time in taking on a new employee on and you’ve decided to drop them in the [zb] by leaving.
Decent thing to have done would have given them some notice so they could sort a replacement. It’s not all one way traffic!
the company are called BRITANIA SUPER FINE if you feel sorry for them im sure they will welcome you with open arms lol…
Don’t need a job thanks and not wanting to feel sorry for anyone. Just pointing out that there are plenty of people bleating on about how the company won’t do this and won’t do that, and drivers are all hard done by but many of the bleaters don’t help themselves.
Despite what you may think leaving a job at the drop of a hat for a coupe of quid does cause all sorts of problems with businesses and we shouldn’t wonder they are a bit ■■■■■■ off. Leaving on good terms - even if it means staying for a couple of days until they can find a replacement - should always be the preferred, grown-up option.
like I said give them a ring im sure you will be a perfect match , what if I had injured myself and not been leaving? what would they have done ? its not my problem they don’t have a back up plan and if 4 days notice isn’t sufficient for them then I don’t think one more day would of helped them ? im assuming you are an employer with your grown up comments and thinking that an employer not paying for work done is acceptable and ok…
Its an age thing I am afraid. As you get older I’ve found that ■■■■■■■■ on peoples head from a great height and expecting them to play the game and be nice doesn’t always work out in the long run.
Ben9:
So you will be earning £42000 ish a year and are bothered about £500■■?
Whilst yes there is a principle here is it worth it■■?
Principle.
Working for nothing.
£500 - no matter how you look at it, is a bloody lot of money.
Quite. Let them get away with it and they’ll do it to the next guy… and the next guy… whereas if you take them on and beat them (which the guy most likely will) they might think twice about doing it again.
My view is that if a firm owes me a fiver, they are going to pay it, never mind five hundred quid.
