Question for the rear steer guys

I would love to have a play with one of them.
I wouldn’t want an audience though. Big empty area and some traffic cones.

Franglais:
I would love to have a play with one of them.
I wouldn’t want an audience though. Big empty area and some traffic cones.

You wouldn’t need a big area they’re that manoeuvreable.

bald bloke:

Geoffo:
I have no idea what system it uses. I just know it’s a piece of cake to drive.
Btw, front axle also lifts.

We had a couple when I worked for Culina they were supposed to be used instead of rigids as they were so manoeuvreable and I was impressed with them.

We had ours for hospital deliveries. 11m trailer with almost no front overhang and a fully glazed unit meant that even blindside reverses were a piece of cake. Then the transport contract changed hands and we went back to 18T rigids. First time I went to one of my favourite drops I had to take a couple of shunts just to get the thing facing in the right direction!

They were an acquired taste though - even experienced drivers could easily end up with the cab swinging all over the place and the trailer going nowhere near where it was wanted when reversing :slight_smile:

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Franglais:
I would love to have a play with one of them.
I wouldn’t want an audience though. Big empty area and some traffic cones.

We have an 11m single axle one. Biggest thing I find you have to watch is pulling out of gateways etc. So easy to catch a post on your blind side if you are going into a narrow road. Like Old John says though very handy. Looks a bit weird if you do a full lock turn as the trailer body looks strangely disconnected from the undercarriage. You can take a roundabout almost as if there is no trailer, it just tracks. You have always got to uncouple in a straight line, otherwise its a prat of a job to couple up later as the wedge does not go in very easily and you end up shoving the trailer sideways. Not that I have ever done that :blush: Ours was bought, cheap :smiley: , secondhand but I would have thought it’s a big expense over a standard trailer.

bald bloke:

Franglais:
I would love to have a play with one of them.
I wouldn’t want an audience though. Big empty area and some traffic cones.

You wouldn’t need a big area they’re that manoeuvreable.

Ha !
You’ve never seen me reverse.

manski:

Franglais:
I would love to have a play with one of them.
I wouldn’t want an audience though. Big empty area and some traffic cones.

We have an 11m single axle one. Biggest thing I find you have to watch is pulling out of gateways etc. So easy to catch a post on your blind side if you are going into a narrow road. Like Old John says though very handy. Looks a bit weird if you do a full lock turn as the trailer body looks strangely disconnected from the undercarriage. You can take a roundabout almost as if there is no trailer, it just tracks. You have always got to uncouple in a straight line, otherwise its a prat of a job to couple up later as the wedge does not go in very easily and you end up shoving the trailer sideways. Not that I have ever done that :blush: Ours was bought, cheap :smiley: , secondhand but I would have thought it’s a big expense over a standard trailer.

I never did it. But allegedly if you couple up to one at the wrong angle you can smack of the gob off. And it’s a bit pricey to get fixed.

But do the Continental trailers have positive steering or castor steering?

When I started reporting on the coach industry in the early 1990s, operators using Continental tri-axle coaches used to get the rear-steer axles locked because they thought they made the coach uncontrollable.

I never tried to argue the point

Geoffo:
Spoke to a(Belgian) Schmitz trailer salesman recently about this very subject.

It turns out that locking the rear steer axle before reversing is pretty much a British thing , rear steer trailers come standard in Europe without the locking mechanism.

A bit like ‘Ramps’ leading up to the 5th wheel. European spec. trucks don’t have them. As British trucks do.

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This Austrian trailer had a locking rear steer, you had to lock it while the wheels were straight

manski:

Franglais:
I would love to have a play with one of them.
I wouldn’t want an audience though. Big empty area and some traffic cones.

We have an 11m single axle one. Biggest thing I find you have to watch is pulling out of gateways etc. So easy to catch a post on your blind side if you are going into a narrow road. Like Old John says though very handy. Looks a bit weird if you do a full lock turn as the trailer body looks strangely disconnected from the undercarriage. You can take a roundabout almost as if there is no trailer, it just tracks. You have always got to uncouple in a straight line, otherwise its a prat of a job to couple up later as the wedge does not go in very easily and you end up shoving the trailer sideways. Not that I have ever done that :blush: Ours was bought, cheap :smiley: , secondhand but I would have thought it’s a big expense over a standard trailer.

Mine is a heavy duty tri axle with front lift and full length neck. It’s got a lot of little tweaks that I specced it with, and from memory, the Tridec steering axle only added around 3.5k to the new price. Worth every penny!!^

Old John:
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Mine is a heavy duty tri axle with front lift and full length neck. It’s got a lot of little tweaks that I specced it with, and from memory, the Tridec steering axle only added around 3.5k to the new price. Worth every penny!!^

Very smart, I won’t put a picture up of our ex-comet single axle one then :laughing: (Works for us though).

I take it the load is timber frame building panels ?

manski:

Old John:
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Mine is a heavy duty tri axle with front lift and full length neck. It’s got a lot of little tweaks that I specced it with, and from memory, the Tridec steering axle only added around 3.5k to the new price. Worth every penny!!^

Very smart, I won’t put a picture up of our ex-comet single axle one then :laughing: (Works for us though).

I take it the load is timber frame building panels ?

That’s a picture from a few years ago. Not Looking just so smart now. Got it built for a job I had been doing with eight wheelers for around twenty years. Worked a treat then three years in, job finished. Don’t have a lot if work for it anymore and am considering selling it.

Yes, the load is part of a timber frame kit house.( See what a good job I made of strapping it on. Didn’t move even when upside down)

Old John:

manski:

Old John:
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Mine is a heavy duty tri axle with front lift and full length neck. It’s got a lot of little tweaks that I specced it with, and from memory, the Tridec steering axle only added around 3.5k to the new price. Worth every penny!!^

Very smart, I won’t put a picture up of our ex-comet single axle one then :laughing: (Works for us though).

I take it the load is timber frame building panels ?

That’s a picture from a few years ago. Not Looking just so smart now. Got it built for a job I had been doing with eight wheelers for around twenty years. Worked a treat then three years in, job finished. Don’t have a lot if work for it anymore and am considering selling it.

Yes, the load is part of a timber frame kit house.( See what a good job I made of strapping it on. Didn’t move even when upside down)

Knowing next to nothing about this…

If you got a unit with a hiab style crane wouldn’t that be a dream sub contracting site delivery wagon? Able to get into tight parts of London and other awkward cities?

sammym:

Old John:

manski:

Old John:
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Mine is a heavy duty tri axle with front lift and full length neck. It’s got a lot of little tweaks that I specced it with, and from memory, the Tridec steering axle only added around 3.5k to the new price. Worth every penny!!^

Very smart, I won’t put a picture up of our ex-comet single axle one then :laughing: (Works for us though).

I take it the load is timber frame building panels ?

That’s a picture from a few years ago. Not Looking just so smart now. Got it built for a job I had been doing with eight wheelers for around twenty years. Worked a treat then three years in, job finished. Don’t have a lot if work for it anymore and am considering selling it.

Yes, the load is part of a timber frame kit house.( See what a good job I made of strapping it on. Didn’t move even when upside down)

Knowing next to nothing about this…

If you got a unit with a hiab style crane wouldn’t that be a dream sub contracting site delivery wagon? Able to get into tight parts of London and other awkward cities?

Yes, it would be ideal for something like that, especially for heavy items. However, on any one day, I’m usually around 500 miles north west of London, and consider myself blessed to be so!!
(I’ve been there as a tourist and enjoyed it very much, but live and work there? I Think not.
I’ll try to attatch a picture of the kind of territory I’m more often in.
(I finished at 10pm last night, and in the last 30 miles i saw one other vehicle.) Bliss!

Old John:
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Certainly looks more scenic than my London, Manchester, Birmingham etc runs.

Scotland is somewhere I’d love to go to (a bit like Euro for me). I’ve not done it yet.

That being said - it would be a lot lot nicer than a rigid (your trailer) in some of our spots. I have done a fair bit of steel to building sites and if it’s tight the only option is a rigid. If they had the right trailer 2 wagons could become one, and it would be an awful lot nicer for the driver.

Always wonderfed why they didn’t have reer stear trailers rather than rigids. It seems to be either rull size artic or rigid. Which is daft. Saying this just as driver etc.