Q.Anon

switchlogic:
Got to admire Carryfasts dedication to his latest cause where he will basically just make up what people say/believe as an excuse to go off on one. Winseer and Carryfast ~ two cheeks of the same arse

I’m sure that Winseer has actually changed his mind regarding my view that Chicom assymetric warfare tactics is what’s behind it all.
As for the EUSSR they’ve hung themselves with their own Commy rope in the form of their handlers’ own Communist news propaganda service.
It’s clear where its supporters stand on that.Let’s hand over the free world on a plate because you think the commies will give you everything you want.
Be careful what you wish for.

Carryfast:

Dipster:
“By implication” is what you perceive of statements in a text so they fit your views. I was saying I do not like the language that was used. I am not sure what “this thing” actually refers to.

I admit that I am half amused, half shocked, watching a large part of the world population totally spellbound by some, in my view imagined, conspiracy theory that has been circulating for…Decades? Centuries? The only one I am yet to see incorporated are the Jewish blood libels or variants thereof. Perhaps I missed that. A conspiracy theory recently brought back into focus by some “Q”- Is that Trump? You? Who knows?

I consider reasoned argument to be just that, where reasonable consideration is respectably given to all views. And respond to in a like manner. Hurling insults and abuse is not something I favour. Listen to a point of view, but ask oneself why venom and hate has been added to the argument. How does that effect the veracity or otherwise of a statement? The way I try to live my life is respecting others and, if my views differ from theirs, trying to understand why, not immediately presuming they are wrong and I am right.

Not to put too fine a point to it your presumptions about my thoughts displayed in your last two lines are sheer nonsense. I actually lived for years in a Communist country under that regime. Yes, really. I admired some parts of the way the citizens lived their lives but, overall, disliked it intensely. And I was in a Communist country when the system collapsed. So through personal experience I can confirm it is not what the world needs. Your last line is interesting though. Individual nations are part of what makes life interesting. Experiencing foreign cultures and languages is stimulating. This is one area where I think the federal system, as in the US, has benefits as each state retains a distinct identity.

I do not usually write at length on this forum but it does appear to me that my view of most of all that has been on this thread is that it makes little real sense. I think it is mostly an unfortunate acceptance by many posters here of all the weird and untruthful propaganda that is published. And their consequent opposition of the views of others who differ.

As Trump might say, “Sad”.

You’re the one who’s saying that any view which doen’t agree with yours is ‘hateful’ and not living our lives the way you want.

Personally I don’t buy ‘everything’ that Manalishi says.
But I also don’t buy anything which says that the EUSSR isn’t exactly that with documented and clear links to an agenda of subservience to a Communist dominated world governance system.
I also don’t buy the story that ‘the virus’ originated in a Chinese food market.
The rest follows from that.

Oh and feel free to explain how people who have tested positive for the virus have been told that there is no immunity to it on ‘recovery’.
But then suddenly and conveniently there is supposedly immunity to it by having the supposed ‘vaccine’.
How can that possibly be.
What ‘immunity’ can a ‘vaccine’ possibly provide to someone who has caught and ‘recovered’ from a virus that the ‘recovery’ itself won’t provide and how can it possibly do that bearing in mind the principle as to how a vaccine supposedly works.
You’re asking us to put absolute trust in a hostile Communist dictatorship.Regarding all aspects of our government and our health and well being.
Anything said against that is ‘hateful’.
Then you say you ‘‘really admired the way ‘citizens’ lived their lives’’ under the Communist system.
While you obviously think it’s hateful to distrust and stand against everything it stands for.
You like Federalism in which ‘each state’ supposedly retains its identity.
Yeah right like Tibet you mean. :unamused:

Carryfast,

Please re-read my last post carefully and then re-consider your post.

Example “I admired some parts of the way the citizens lived their lives but, overall, disliked it intensely.” Compare that to your reply… “While you obviously think it’s hateful to distrust and stand against everything it stands for.” Not the same thing.

There are other examples of your apparent misunderstanding in your reply.

My first thoughts are that it is really rather like Trump’s replies to points. He too simply changes the point to suit his narrative. Or simply changes the subject or changes tack, as you did, when you introduce Covid.

As I have said this thread amuses me to read, but trying to discuss anything with you really is quite tiresome. Perhaps not worth the candle.

Dipster:

Carryfast:

Dipster:
“By implication” is what you perceive of statements in a text so they fit your views. I was saying I do not like the language that was used. I am not sure what “this thing” actually refers to.

I admit that I am half amused, half shocked, watching a large part of the world population totally spellbound by some, in my view imagined, conspiracy theory that has been circulating for…Decades? Centuries? The only one I am yet to see incorporated are the Jewish blood libels or variants thereof. Perhaps I missed that. A conspiracy theory recently brought back into focus by some “Q”- Is that Trump? You? Who knows?

I consider reasoned argument to be just that, where reasonable consideration is respectably given to all views. And respond to in a like manner. Hurling insults and abuse is not something I favour. Listen to a point of view, but ask oneself why venom and hate has been added to the argument. How does that effect the veracity or otherwise of a statement? The way I try to live my life is respecting others and, if my views differ from theirs, trying to understand why, not immediately presuming they are wrong and I am right.

Not to put too fine a point to it your presumptions about my thoughts displayed in your last two lines are sheer nonsense. I actually lived for years in a Communist country under that regime. Yes, really. I admired some parts of the way the citizens lived their lives but, overall, disliked it intensely. And I was in a Communist country when the system collapsed. So through personal experience I can confirm it is not what the world needs. Your last line is interesting though. Individual nations are part of what makes life interesting. Experiencing foreign cultures and languages is stimulating. This is one area where I think the federal system, as in the US, has benefits as each state retains a distinct identity.

I do not usually write at length on this forum but it does appear to me that my view of most of all that has been on this thread is that it makes little real sense. I think it is mostly an unfortunate acceptance by many posters here of all the weird and untruthful propaganda that is published. And their consequent opposition of the views of others who differ.

As Trump might say, “Sad”.

You’re the one who’s saying that any view which doen’t agree with yours is ‘hateful’ and not living our lives the way you want.

Personally I don’t buy ‘everything’ that Manalishi says.
But I also don’t buy anything which says that the EUSSR isn’t exactly that with documented and clear links to an agenda of subservience to a Communist dominated world governance system.
I also don’t buy the story that ‘the virus’ originated in a Chinese food market.
The rest follows from that.

Oh and feel free to explain how people who have tested positive for the virus have been told that there is no immunity to it on ‘recovery’.
But then suddenly and conveniently there is supposedly immunity to it by having the supposed ‘vaccine’.
How can that possibly be.
What ‘immunity’ can a ‘vaccine’ possibly provide to someone who has caught and ‘recovered’ from a virus that the ‘recovery’ itself won’t provide and how can it possibly do that bearing in mind the principle as to how a vaccine supposedly works.
You’re asking us to put absolute trust in a hostile Communist dictatorship.Regarding all aspects of our government and our health and well being.
Anything said against that is ‘hateful’.
Then you say you ‘‘really admired the way ‘citizens’ lived their lives’’ under the Communist system.
While you obviously think it’s hateful to distrust and stand against everything it stands for.
You like Federalism in which ‘each state’ supposedly retains its identity.
Yeah right like Tibet you mean. :unamused:

Carryfast,

Please re-read my last post carefully and then re-consider your post.

Example “I admired some parts of the way the citizens lived their lives but, overall, disliked it intensely.” Compare that to your reply

Leave it out.The cat is out of the bag and it’s your own side that blew the plan wide open.This is clearly what you’re supporting.I’m guessing you can actually read.Then you’ve got the nerve to tell me to read your posts more carefully.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

Carryfast:

switchlogic:
Got to admire Carryfasts dedication to his latest cause where he will basically just make up what people say/believe as an excuse to go off on one. Winseer and Carryfast ~ two cheeks of the same arse

I’m sure that Winseer has actually changed his mind regarding my view that Chicom assymetric warfare tactics is what’s behind it all.
As for the EUSSR they’ve hung themselves with their own Commy rope in the form of their handlers’ own Communist news propaganda service.
It’s clear where its supporters stand on that.Let’s hand over the free world on a plate because you think the commies will give you everything you want.
Be careful what you wish for.

Do you ever not just think ‘why am I into all this?’ It all just seems a bit fruitless to me. As I think I said on a previous thread I’m fairly down the line on what I think happens. I.e the world is generally as we see it and there will always of course be secrets so I don’t have much to say on subject but even if I did believe in all the stuff you do, if the world is as you say, why do you think posting this stuff on Trucknet will ever make any difference? That this world order can be brought down by people on a truckers forum? The fact is you and others will just claim I’m brainwashed by the media without realising you are too is fairly ironic. I engage a lot with all media and buzzwords and sayings spread like wildfire

(The reason I don’t believe what you and many do is because I think you seriously overestimate humans abilities. The idea of a handful of men or a family control the whole world just veers into the realms of crazy)

switchlogic:

Carryfast:
I’m sure that Winseer has actually changed his mind regarding my view that Chicom assymetric warfare tactics is what’s behind it all.
As for the EUSSR they’ve hung themselves with their own Commy rope in the form of their handlers’ own Communist news propaganda service.
It’s clear where its supporters stand on that.Let’s hand over the free world on a plate because you think the commies will give you everything you want.
Be careful what you wish for.

Do you ever not just think ‘why am I into all this?’ It all just seems a bit fruitless to me. As I think I said on a previous thread I’m fairly down the line on what I think happens. I.e the world is generally as we see it and there will always of course be secrets so I don’t have much to say on subject but even if I did believe in all the stuff you do, if the world is as you say, why do you think posting this stuff on Trucknet will ever make any difference? That this world order can be brought down by people on a truckers forum? The fact is you and others will just claim I’m brainwashed by the media without realising you are too is fairly ironic. I engage a lot with all media and buzzwords and sayings spread like wildfire

(The reason I don’t believe what you and many do is because I think you seriously overestimate humans abilities. The idea of a handful of men or a family control the whole world just veers into the realms of crazy)

Which part of I don’t buy everything that Manalishi for example says but I’ve got an open mind on regards some of it.But I just think he might have some of the finer details wrong.

No need to over think it.It’s clear what the agenda is and who and what is behind it.They’ve clearly said it themselves.World Governance is their aim and it’s clear who and what is behind it.

So we’ve got someone in the form of Dipster ‘claiming’ to hate Communism and everything it stands for.But then at the same time shouting that it’s ‘hateful’ for anyone to call it out in the form of defending our sovereignty against it.

While also at the same time supporting the ideology of the Collective including the EUSSR’s clear agenda of submitting Europe to Communist backed ‘World Governance’ in that regard.Yeah right.

As I said the cat is clearly out of the bag damned by their own words and photographic evidence which I’ve posted.Not conspiracy theory.Bearing in mind what happened next after that media coup.
Choose your side are you for it or against it.It’s that simple.

switchlogic:

Carryfast:

switchlogic:
Got to admire Carryfasts dedication to his latest cause where he will basically just make up what people say/believe as an excuse to go off on one. Winseer and Carryfast ~ two cheeks of the same arse

I’m sure that Winseer has actually changed his mind regarding my view that Chicom assymetric warfare tactics is what’s behind it all.
As for the EUSSR they’ve hung themselves with their own Commy rope in the form of their handlers’ own Communist news propaganda service.
It’s clear where its supporters stand on that.Let’s hand over the free world on a plate because you think the commies will give you everything you want.
Be careful what you wish for.

Do you ever not just think ‘why am I into all this?’ It all just seems a bit fruitless to me. As I think I said on a previous thread I’m fairly down the line on what I think happens. I.e the world is generally as we see it and there will always of course be secrets so I don’t have much to say on subject but even if I did believe in all the stuff you do, if the world is as you say, why do you think posting this stuff on Trucknet will ever make any difference? That this world order can be brought down by people on a truckers forum? The fact is you and others will just claim I’m brainwashed by the media without realising you are too is fairly ironic. I engage a lot with all media and buzzwords and sayings spread like wildfire

(The reason I don’t believe what you and many do is because I think you seriously overestimate humans abilities. The idea of a handful of men or a family control the whole world just veers into the realms of crazy)

I can relate to the last sentiments but would qualify it by stating that instead of the ‘handful of men’,think more in terms of organisations and covert societies,all of them working in symphony to a mutual agenda (one that’s evidently taking shape more frantically),akin to a thoroughbred engine ,all components working to a set goal but independent and isolated to avoid friction,a different analogy would be far more apposite…(Pyramid),the bigger bottom layers supporting the smaller upper parts where the real political/Occultic- power condenses .It ill behoves you to pour, ignorance based,derision and scorn onto folks who have this knowledge and information in their collective wheelhouses.

Many millions across the world are sussing the scale of deception that’s been inculcated into the collective consciousness for at least the last century and however grandiloquent that may sound there most certainly is a gargantuan ‘awakening’ going down on a planetary level.maybe your own epiphany got lost in the post. :confused: Maybe you think certain amongst us should see ourselves as ‘Lorry-Drivers’ and get back in line as though what your unfortunate enough to be doing to earn a crust is an accurate indice of who, or what, you are and what you’ve learned.

Go back to rustling up a pan of beans for your adoring audience old chap, you’re clearly not making too much progress on the philosophical/political front with all too predictable add-hominem snipes at more astute and evolved contributors than yourself.Pipe and smoke.

Carryfast:

Dipster:

Carryfast:

Dipster:
“By implication” is what you perceive of statements in a text so they fit your views. I was saying I do not like the language that was used. I am not sure what “this thing” actually refers to.

I admit that I am half amused, half shocked, watching a large part of the world population totally spellbound by some, in my view imagined, conspiracy theory that has been circulating for…Decades? Centuries? The only one I am yet to see incorporated are the Jewish blood libels or variants thereof. Perhaps I missed that. A conspiracy theory recently brought back into focus by some “Q”- Is that Trump? You? Who knows?

I consider reasoned argument to be just that, where reasonable consideration is respectably given to all views. And respond to in a like manner. Hurling insults and abuse is not something I favour. Listen to a point of view, but ask oneself why venom and hate has been added to the argument. How does that effect the veracity or otherwise of a statement? The way I try to live my life is respecting others and, if my views differ from theirs, trying to understand why, not immediately presuming they are wrong and I am right.

Not to put too fine a point to it your presumptions about my thoughts displayed in your last two lines are sheer nonsense. I actually lived for years in a Communist country under that regime. Yes, really. I admired some parts of the way the citizens lived their lives but, overall, disliked it intensely. And I was in a Communist country when the system collapsed. So through personal experience I can confirm it is not what the world needs. Your last line is interesting though. Individual nations are part of what makes life interesting. Experiencing foreign cultures and languages is stimulating. This is one area where I think the federal system, as in the US, has benefits as each state retains a distinct identity.

I do not usually write at length on this forum but it does appear to me that my view of most of all that has been on this thread is that it makes little real sense. I think it is mostly an unfortunate acceptance by many posters here of all the weird and untruthful propaganda that is published. And their consequent opposition of the views of others who differ.

As Trump might say, “Sad”.

You’re the one who’s saying that any view which doen’t agree with yours is ‘hateful’ and not living our lives the way you want.

Personally I don’t buy ‘everything’ that Manalishi says.
But I also don’t buy anything which says that the EUSSR isn’t exactly that with documented and clear links to an agenda of subservience to a Communist dominated world governance system.
I also don’t buy the story that ‘the virus’ originated in a Chinese food market.
The rest follows from that.

Oh and feel free to explain how people who have tested positive for the virus have been told that there is no immunity to it on ‘recovery’.
But then suddenly and conveniently there is supposedly immunity to it by having the supposed ‘vaccine’.
How can that possibly be.
What ‘immunity’ can a ‘vaccine’ possibly provide to someone who has caught and ‘recovered’ from a virus that the ‘recovery’ itself won’t provide and how can it possibly do that bearing in mind the principle as to how a vaccine supposedly works.
You’re asking us to put absolute trust in a hostile Communist dictatorship.Regarding all aspects of our government and our health and well being.
Anything said against that is ‘hateful’.
Then you say you ‘‘really admired the way ‘citizens’ lived their lives’’ under the Communist system.
While you obviously think it’s hateful to distrust and stand against everything it stands for.
You like Federalism in which ‘each state’ supposedly retains its identity.
Yeah right like Tibet you mean. :unamused:

Carryfast,

Please re-read my last post carefully and then re-consider your post.

Example “I admired some parts of the way the citizens lived their lives but, overall, disliked it intensely.” Compare that to your reply

Leave it out.The cat is out of the bag and it’s your own side that blew the plan wide open.This is clearly what you’re supporting.I’m guessing you can actually read.Then you’ve got the nerve to tell me to read your posts more carefully.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

My side? I have previously posted that I am a centrist. Neither of the “sides” are mine. You are incorrigible.

manalishi:
Go back to rustling up a pan of beans for your adoring audience old chap, you’re clearly not making too much progress on the philosophical/political front with all too predictable add-hominem snipes at more astute and evolved contributors than yourself.Pipe and smoke.

So, I make a reasonable post where I certainly don’t dismiss or insult anyone & I don’t dismiss the ideas some of you have or your right to believe them and this is how you responded? And you want people to come round to you way of thinking? By talking down to them like a child? Interesting tactic, I see how it works now, apologies for posting since I clearly over estimated some of your intelligence.

Have a nice weekend

manalishi:
snipes at more astute and evolved contributors than yourself

Thanks for this though, now this did make me laugh. You and Carryfast ‘astute and evolved’ is impressively hilarious. I’m going to campaign for Trucknet to create an ‘Astute & Evolved’ badge so you can be clearly recognised as the intellectual titans you (you think you) are.

theepochtimes.com/2020-elec … 17562.html

who’s stealing America

Juddian:
The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos

who’s stealing America

I think Trump and his cronies have been trying…

Dipster:

Carryfast:
Leave it out.The cat is out of the bag and it’s your own side that blew the plan wide open.This is clearly what you’re supporting.I’m guessing you can actually read.Then you’ve got the nerve to tell me to read your posts more carefully.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

My side? I have previously posted that I am a centrist. Neither of the “sides” are mine. You are incorrigible.

You’re clearly all for the Collective.In this case the EUSSR Collective which you know has documented links to a Communist backed world governance agenda.
Which is the definition and logical conclusion of the Collectivist ideology.
Who are you trying to fool.

Juddian:
The Epoch Times | Breaking News, Latest News, World News and Videos

who’s stealing America

Epoch Times combined with Sky News Australia are the fading voices of the free world and resistance to this clear plan of Communist backed global governance.

youtube.com/watch?v=3bXWGxhd7ic

Carryfast:

Dipster:

Carryfast:
Leave it out.The cat is out of the bag and it’s your own side that blew the plan wide open.This is clearly what you’re supporting.I’m guessing you can actually read.Then you’ve got the nerve to tell me to read your posts more carefully.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

My side? I have previously posted that I am a centrist. Neither of the “sides” are mine. You are incorrigible.

You’re clearly all for the Collective.In this case the EUSSR Collective which you know has documented links to a Communist backed world governance agenda.
Which is the definition and logical conclusion of the Collectivist ideology.
Who are you trying to fool.

Are you trying to win a bet or something with how many times you can drop ‘EUSSR’ into a post?

switchlogic:

Carryfast:

Dipster:

Carryfast:
Leave it out.The cat is out of the bag and it’s your own side that blew the plan wide open.This is clearly what you’re supporting.I’m guessing you can actually read.Then you’ve got the nerve to tell me to read your posts more carefully.
xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

My side? I have previously posted that I am a centrist. Neither of the “sides” are mine. You are incorrigible.

You’re clearly all for the Collective.In this case the EUSSR Collective which you know has documented links to a Communist backed world governance agenda.
Which is the definition and logical conclusion of the Collectivist ideology.
Who are you trying to fool.

Are you trying to win a bet or something with how many times you can drop ‘EUSSR’ into a post?

Hmmm. The “Sudetenland Germans” must be feeling abandoned. They were his go-to catchphrase 6 months ago.

I do love his regular ‘Catchphrase du Jour’ habit. He basically just talks in catchphrases and buzzwords

switchlogic:
I do love his regular ‘Catchphrase du Jour’ habit. He basically just talks in catchphrases and buzzwords

The last reply to me is quite beyond my comprehension. Can anybody translate this drivel please?

Dipster:

switchlogic:
I do love his regular ‘Catchphrase du Jour’ habit. He basically just talks in catchphrases and buzzwords

The last reply to me is quite beyond my comprehension. Can anybody translate this drivel please?

I’ll make it clear to you.

Are you for this and these muppets or against it and them.A simple for or against answer is all that’s needed.

xinhuanet.com/english/2019-0 … 925591.htm

Centrist who are you trying to fool.That’s the definition of an EUSSR Communist puppet Vichy regime in the making right there.Don’t expect us to go with it.You’re either for the self determination of the sovereign nation state.
Or you’re for the Communist backed World Governance Collective of which the EU is clearly a part of.
It’s written there in black and white.

Ask yourselves this question:

Who gains and who loses if:

(1) Trump remains in power with the backing of the military, 74million voters, and over half of the Republican Party?

(2) Biden is handed the election on a plate, regardless of evidence massively against him, but with 80m paper voters who won’t be on the streets for him? Don’t expect much other than lip service from the politicans on both sides either… Their request of Trump and the mainstream Media to “go quietly into the night” clearly hasn’t worked already.

I simply don’t see how Trump can be forced out in January, as it stands…

Who and who’s army is going to do the job?

Even if Trump remains in office by this point, his chances of becoming a two-thirds landslide majority president for the entire world, bypassing the globalists entirely - is now apparently for naught… :confused:

The betting markets have now been settled, as Biden being the winner of the election, and all the outstanding states settled in his favour as well.

Betfair would not have wanted to take the risk of having to pay out on both sides, so we must conclude that the settlement in Biden’s favour - is not going to be overturned, as old betting settlements are NEVER overturned neither.

It remains to be seen if the electoral actual count revealed in January actually has all the electors in all of those outstanding states in dispute - actually voting for Biden…

It would only need half of them voting for Trump in protest, Eg. Pensylvania, Georgia, and Nevada which means that Trump has lost from his 306 electoral vote 2016 result -18 for Michigan, -10 for Wisconsin, and -11 for Arizona, making the final score 267 to 273 to Biden before the routine faithless electors are taken off, which in 2016 were short for Trump by 2 in Texas, whilst he gained One at Hilary’s expense in Main leaving him on 306 rather than the 307 he would have got otherwise.


The Democrats meanwhile, can be expected to NOT get all of the outstanding electoral college votes despite any legal bullying by the Democrat legislatures at local levels, eg. threatening electors with jail if they dare to be “Faithless” on this particular election cycle…

This means that Trump getting 267 - might end up in January being enough for him to win, and retain power, and remains Trump’s best and most realistic way to hold on.

It doesn’t matter “Who won the popular vote” as we found out in 2000 and 2016…
It doesn’t matter “Who gets past 270” since if NEITHER candidate polls over 270 electoral college votes, then America faces the same situation as our UK parliament when someone like Theresa May calls an election, and promply faceplants her way down to 318 - 8 short of a majority here in Blighty…

Trump is probably odds-on to hold on in that regard, but will almost certainlly be a lame duck President to rival Obama’s 2012-2016 affair when he had no control over either upper or lower house for a while, and with good reason, what with killing random Muslim kids with Drones, whilst pretending Trump is the “Anti Muslim and Racist” candidate when he didn’t even kill anyone with those obsolte “Beautiful” missiles fired at deserted airfields in Syria…

What DOES need to happen though - is a complete reform of the American Voting System in the name of Democracy itself, which won’t happen under Biden under any circumstances, but WILL occur under even the most lamest of Duck’s “Last Trump” session 2021-2025.