Pete the post:
The bloke who did my first 2 days of dcpc wasn’t even a LGV licence holder, just did a course and got accredited
Had to put him right on a number of issues, how can we be trained by someone who knows less than us?
Give the job to retired drivers who actually KNOW things.
Don’t talk so bloody daft. Common sense was banned years ago.
peterm:
Pete the post:
The bloke who did my first 2 days of dcpc wasn’t even a LGV licence holder, just did a course and got accredited
Had to put him right on a number of issues, how can we be trained by someone who knows less than us?
Give the job to retired drivers who actually KNOW things.Don’t talk so bloody daft. Common sense was banned years ago.
Schiese 
mkb600:
The ProFeSSional driver who (tried to) deliver 24 pallets of beer to Tesco Invoice Address, Cardiff instead of Hatfield RDC…
Hands up, I did something very similar once 
I’ve also gone to the wrong town (same name different county) but not as bad as the Greek driver with a load for Gibraltar who according to trucker legend ended up at Gibraltar Point near Skeggy.
Edit Syrian Driver theregister.co.uk/2008/07/22/satnav_blunder/
But sometimes it’s the planners (office staff) who (zb) things up on a grand scale, I once was given a collection adress in belgium for machine parts , the adress was a semi detached house, After knocking on the front door, i established that it was the company owners adress, the factory was located around 30miles or more away, the load was still in transit from the ukraine and wouldn’t be delivered for maybe 2 days,lol
Or they would get a job,sit on it for several hours,before ringing drivers ,so we would be late collecting ,but it was always blamed on the drivers
But this driver CPC is a load of nonsense it won’t make many if any better safer drivers, as it’s been said it’s just another tax , as are the driver smart cards for the digital tachos, they company you work for should be made to fund them. after all i don’t know anyone who used to have to buy boxes of paper charts themselves , always where provided by the company
limeyphil:
not so long back a rigid from the same firm i was doing the odd day for went down a ditch, i wasn’t far away so i went for a look. the wrecker had just got there. the driver was a know it all, everyone listened when he spoke.(a big fat gob[zb]).
i happened to mention if he’d applied the dif lock? he didn’t reply (quite rare for him).
had he switched off the rear steer? again no reply.
had he lifted the rear steer? i think he pretended he couldn’t hear me.
so i got in it, started it, engaged the dif lock, locked the rear steer, then lifted the steer axle, and drove away.
then i got in my lorry and [zb]ed off.
Phil we get this all the time on the recovery. In the snow, a good 50% of the trucks we attend with a wrecker to winch out, we jump in the cab and drive them out. Easier than pulling the winch ropes out 
Quite often I’ll give the driver instructions (which way to steer, when to brake) when I’m winching. It’s so frustrating when the driver decides he knows better and steers where he thinks it should go.
Had this recently with a foreign driver, he’d driven onto the grass to turn around and sunk. I was telling him to keep full left hand lock on as I winched him. He kept straightening up. Then he kept putting it in gear and spinning the wheels, I kept telling him to put it in neutral and let the winch do the work. In the end I told him to get out of the cab and got the copper to steer it.
peterm:
Pete the post:
The bloke who did my first 2 days of dcpc wasn’t even a LGV licence holder, just did a course and got accredited
Had to put him right on a number of issues, how can we be trained by someone who knows less than us?
Give the job to retired drivers who actually KNOW things.Don’t talk so bloody daft. Common sense was banned years ago.
Christ can you imagine,35 hours of them telling us how much better it was in their day and how we don’t know we’re born. No thanks
Christ can you imagine,35 hours of them telling us how much better it was in their day and how we don’t know we’re born. No thanks
but it was…and you don’t
merry xmas
In the early '90’s Had a chap given a timed delivery in Newcastle, an hour after the drop time the company called to ask where their load was.
Rang him on his then new cab phone and asked why he wasn’t at the drop yet, nearly there he said, just passing through Washington on the A1.
Errrr, can you tell me what address is on the notes?
Newcastle -under-Lyme…oh s**t 
Pete the post:
peterm:
Pete the post:
The bloke who did my first 2 days of dcpc wasn’t even a LGV licence holder, just did a course and got accredited
Had to put him right on a number of issues, how can we be trained by someone who knows less than us?
Give the job to retired drivers who actually KNOW things.Don’t talk so bloody daft. Common sense was banned years ago.
Schiese
I was agreeing with you mate.
Was referring to the common sense part that’s gone AWOL part mate
mkb600:
The ProFeSSional driver who (tried to) deliver 24 pallets of beer to Tesco Invoice Address, Cardiff instead of Hatfield RDC…
I’ll hold my heads up to doing something similar. Done a drop in mid Wales and looked at my next drop, near Bridgewater. Off I go and it wasn’t till I got about 5 miles from the address that the penny dropped. The company name I was going to wasnt the same as what was penned on the pallets. Checked the paperwork and I was heading for the billing address . The delivery address was a farm over near Carmarthen. Cost me nearly 2 hours and a bollocking of the gaffer.
I’ve done same thing too…I know, hard to believe what with me being the worlds greatest living driver. Went from London down to south coast to a tiny business park, chap pointed out I should be in London, the drop was two miles away from my last one!
So if a brilliant professional like I can do it I’m sure some of you mere mortals will make the same mistake. That was before Bertie was director of operations though.
I have to say,I have never gone to a wrong address unless the bookings took down the wrong spelling/details! I don’t have to worry about this now as I’m a lowly night trunker nowadays! 
Bking:
alamcculloch:
The DCPC will get this sort of thing fixed,wont it?I dont understand how management can hand over the keys to the Companies reputation and assets without making certain that the driver can really use the specialised kit that we have nowadays.There has to be proper training delivered by someone who knows about the particular job in hand.Course it will !like the pillock who tells our drivers on their “cpc” that add blue is bovine urine or that if you lose a bulb,any bulb the dorks have to stop and call the garage till some body goes to fix it,or even that snow bars on trailer roofs are there to make them more aerodynamic!!
If they are going to waste 35 hours of everybodies time every five years then they should get somebody in who at least knows what the hell they are talking about and as for any of these “tutors” knowing how or why a diff lock operates is well unlikely shall we say.
If they are going to do a “module” on how a vehicle and its systems operate would it not be a good idea to get someone in who looks after the bloody things and knows how they operate to answer drivers questions and not someone who “once read a book”?Thought that the wonderful “cpc” was all about giving drivers more knowledge about their job.What better way to learn than being able to ask questions that have never been explained to someone who knows the answers and can give a bit of insight.
My dCPC tutor was a fitter, so could tell you how and why and where on the truck no probs, but wasn’t the best with the drivers hours or the load security parts… His mechanical explanations were amazing though.
Your course should be the norm, I had to sit through class 2 drivers cant drive units with a fifth wheel in place.The course could be practical mainly in the workshop we could learn to do simple running repairs etc.
alamcculloch:
Your course should be the norm, I had to sit through class 2 drivers cant drive units with a fifth wheel in place.The course could be practical mainly in the workshop we could learn to do simple running repairs etc.
Where I did my course, sometimes does a driving bit too, but the unit and trailer moves to all places on the Mercedes Benz course and wasn’t there when I did mine.
We had loads of parts of trucks, clutches, brakes, airbags etc in the classroom for us to look at and understand the workings of them, along with explanations off the tutor.
Santa:
I went into a council yard a few years ago and they were winching a brand new gully sucker onto a recovery truck. When I asked - they told me that someone had driven it from Southampton to Worcester with the PTO engaged. It had taken him six hours and the gearbox was wrecked.
Ha ha, I picked up a ‘trade plate’ delivery driver last week, who told me that he remembered a job where he had to drive a brand new gully sucker from Southampton to somewhere (he couldn’t remember exactly) and it took HIM six hours to do the journey…wonder if it was him?
Wiretwister:
Santa:
I went into a council yard a few years ago and they were winching a brand new gully sucker onto a recovery truck. When I asked - they told me that someone had driven it from Southampton to Worcester with the PTO engaged. It had taken him six hours and the gearbox was wrecked.That would sound like a vehicle issue anyway. Every truck I’ve ever used, with a PTO, would drop the PTO as soon as the handbrake was released. Would you expect to use the sucker while mobile?
Having said that I’m sure I’d have stopped sooner if it was so obviously not right.
I drove a mates hook lifter the other week and was warned that the PTO didn’t jump out when you set off so be careful.
Depends how old the wagon is I suppose?
peirre:
rsdc1:
When he got there the trailer was empty. He’d picked up the wrong van.Funnily enough, last weekend a guy I work with on a particular contract turns up on Saturday morning, gets his trip sheet from the office & asks for the keys for XYZ truck, he jumps in the truck & does the briefest of walk round checks and heads out the gate. He arrives at the drop (one of her majesty
s hotels :wink: ) and proceeds to go through the usual security checks to enter the premises. When he opens the back of the truck, he finds that its empty. Then the penny dropped ................ hed not read the trip sheet he was given (with the basic intructions, inc vehicle reg), he`d asked for & got the keys for the wrong truck.
So he had to head back from the drop to the yard, swop trucks & head back to the drop, luckily it was only 6-7 miles awayrsdc1:
Words still fail me 22 years laterWords fail me too … stupidity still happens in this day and age.
The same guy was quick to rip into me for dropping a heavey pallet off the back of the tail lift a while ago, now wait while I see him
not drivers, but a firm i used to do some ad hoc work for, 1 night sent an artic out half full of meat from midlands to scotland, shortly followed by another which was,nt even half loaded, both to the same spot and running back empty… apparently the second load was an add on order but no one thought of calling the first driver back, who was only 20 mins away at the time of the 2nd one leaving yard…
I’m proud to be a Steering wheel attendant!
After watching some drives at Patchway TNT I would be more inclined to call them projectile operatives
