But he does look cute! 
Harry Monk:
Wouldnāt cost much. Five grand should buy you a pretty decent ERF, you can tax it as āPrivateā and so the VED will only be a couple of hundred quid a year, insurance shouldnāt be much more (there are members here who run restored trucks, theyāll point you in the right direction).Parking will be a bit of a variable, depending on whereabouts in the country you are, and what kind of deal you can cut, but again Iād be looking at paying a couple of hundred a year for that too. The MOT is only a little bit more expensive than a car MOT, and unlike an operator it wonāt matter if you do things the old way, where you took a vehicle for MOT, and mended the things it failed on- failing an MOT is a huge āno-noā for an operator nowadays.
Tyres, well if there is a half-decent amount of tread on them, youāll probably never have to buy one. Diesel, depends how much you use it but if itās only for a hobby then youāll hardly use any. Thereās no reason why you canāt run a hobby truck and a few folk on here do.
thanks for the advice
stevieboy308:
The time you spend driving your private truck, youāll come under eu rules, so it may cause you issues with weekly rests
i was under the impression that i wouldnā t come under eu regs because its private use and not hire or reward. Iāll have to read up on it to make sure i dont fall on the wrong side of the law
robroy:
Evil8Beezle:
el_presidente:
robroy:
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stevieboy308:
The time you spend driving your private truck, youāll come under eu rules, so it may cause you issues with weekly rests
I have to disagree mate, as it will be registered as a private vehicle it would seem (legally) as no different from popping to the shops in the car. Obviously it could be fun trying to persuade DVSA that itās not a working vehicle but itās perfectly legal to run it as a private vehicle with no need to log hours.
Chunkzilla:
stevieboy308:
The time you spend driving your private truck, youāll come under eu rules, so it may cause you issues with weekly restsI have to disagree mate, as it will be registered as a private vehicle it would seem (legally) as no different from popping to the shops in the car. Obviously it could be fun trying to persuade DVSA that itās not a working vehicle but itās perfectly legal to run it as a private vehicle with no need to log hours.
Sorry Stevieboy is correct. Over 7.5t, even as a private HGV, then EU Regs on hours and tacho use apply. As many horsebox owners have found out too late.
My classic lorry is over 25 yrs old so I donāt use a tacho ,but if the op has an Ec14 then the oldest it could possibly be is 23 .over 25 is tacho exempt .
I know heās said he wants to run it with the trailer, but hypothetically, if he ran the unit only with the jaws taken out of the fifth wheel, would that qualify as an āincompleteā vehicle and would that therefore be exempt from tacho laws as it no longer has a commercial application?
I suspect I might be tacking two bits of random knowledge together and inventing something thoughā¦
Tax -Ā£ 165 private HGV
Insurance - if it is 15yrs old or more - NFU direct vintage vehicle policy - about Ā£ 120 (0808 278 2021)
MOT - donāt know where you are, but down South most of the Vosa test stations have shut so we have to use ATF (authorised testing facility) - so do a search, find a local one & give them a call, they will charge a pit fee on top of the VOSA rate
Up to 25 years, Tacho will still need to be calibrated & In date
As Harry Monk said, if it has decent tyres, you will probably never need any,
Diesel - I would work on 10mpg as a guide
Toddy2:
Tax -Ā£ 165 private HGVInsurance - if it is 15yrs old or more - NFU direct vintage vehicle policy - about Ā£ 120 (0808 278 2021)
MOT - donāt know where you are, but down South most of the Vosa test stations have shut so we have to use ATF (authorised testing facility) - so do a search, find a local one & give them a call, they will charge a pit fee on top of the VOSA rate
Up to 25 years, Tacho will still need to be calibrated & In date
As Harry Monk said, if it has decent tyres, you will probably never need any,
Diesel - I would work
Wat if he puts caravan in the back take wheels of and bolt it to the floor permanent fixture moterholme I know someone who done it regards rowly
]Hi,
I run a T reg Volvo FL6 ex urban tractor unit, for shows most weekends, yours will be a similar aged vehicle.
As has been said previously Taxed as Private heavy goods, and insurance is about Ā£180 a year, however insurance is fully comp, and covers any driver over 25, for non commercial use, but also covers towing, so covers a caravan etc. Insurance not for hire or reward, so can use for any use provided not for reward, ie you can transport what you like, examples given in policy include transporting a vehicle or goods for a friend, reasonable expenses ok, such as food and fuel, but no wages. Insurer Walker Midgley Insurance. As previous must have Tacho fitted, and use if over 7.5 Ton, between 3.5 and 7.5 ton must have Tacho fitted, but no need to use unless over 7.5 ton, could affect weekly rest, try and arrive at show Friday night, and leave Sunday evening, to get weekly rest.
Concerning disabling fifth wheel, the fifth wheel in law is the same as a normal towball, so not relevant to insurance or use. Could maybe replate to less than 7.5 tonne, but would then need to remove fifth wheel, and get replated, as goes on gross train weight. I actually removed fifth wheel and fitted a short beavertail body with a ball hitch, replated to 14 ton GVW, with 17.5 ton GTW,(Max 3.5 ton on ball hitch with overrun brakes), was 23.5ton GTW when a brewery dray.
Concerning towing, as vehicle will be a class C LGV, a class C licence is required, but limit for class C towing is 750KG only. To tow more eg a caravan then a class C+E is needed, so you need an artic licence to tow a caravan with an HGV even for private use.
Hope this helps
Regards
As far as Iām aware you cannot run a unit and trailer as private, you can only carry goods privately on a vehicle not exceeding 7.5t and on an artic the trailer is classed as goods, because of that the vehicle will come in-scope of EU regulations.
Without the trailer there should be no problem but pulling a trailer changes the situation quite a bit.
Iāve no idea how you would get on with taxing and insuring it privately.
merc0447:
[zb] up Santa or Iāll gee you a slap you cheeky prick. I skimmed the op post and assumed he wanted to start out, no rent a truck for a bloody weekendLeast I try and help folk, instead of being a constant smartarse you bellend.
great post totaly agree,apart from the bellend thats me
you can tax and insure tractor unit and use trailer down rated at 28 ton and still only pay Ā£165 ved giveing payload around 12ton
must have c+e and be over 25yrs of age with 2 yrs driveing goods vehicles
so for private use only you can also carry your other vintage trucks with you on trailer to show
also you can collect trucks to restore for your hobby