Coffeeholic:
Thanks for that Fred, pretty much the same system in Austria then.
But as RobinHood said, not in France. Here you must change your licence to a French one immediately to drive HGVs although different departments enforce the rule differently.
Salut, David.
you are “WRONG”!
In France as in all EU-Counrty of western Europe,exept UK and IRL must Eastern European EU-member wait till 1th Januar 2007 till they can work there,exept they get a Workingpermit from Gov of that Country,in that Case France,which is possible
Then why does Germany have about ten times more Polish drivers than Britain does, especially when our wages are now higher. I was under the impression that temporary workers, such as Willi Betz’s Bulgarian drivers who come for a set period of 3 or 4 months, and then go back, are covered by a loop hole and are not subject to work permits in the same way someone seeking to actually move to Germany and work is?
truckyboy:
Now…if you look at the resident application…it doesnt mean ,that they just live here …they have to apply to the home office in order to be given resident status.
they are merely migrants…therefore…they can only drive british registered trucks for the same amount of time as a visitor…which is 12 months.
as stated they can however apply to exchange their licences for a british one, but may not necessarily be given one…
so at the end of the day…if they drive brit registered trucks…they have to notify DVLA…in order to get their details registered…
maybe they would have to tell the dvla that they obtained their licence fraudently by sticking a 20 sloty note inside the application form for the car licence renewal…and thereby obtaining a hgv licence.
I dont care what people think…or what they call me…i dont want them here…taking our jobs…and putting our industry in jeopardy…
i am already compiling a list of companies who employ the poles…and i have written to the dvla telling them about the fraudulent way of obtaining their licences.
i am also in the process of writing to insurance companies telling them to be aware of companies employing poles…as there could very well be a large claim due to the fact they are wrecking vehicles left right and centre…i would suggest that the companies concerned (like turners) are bearing the brunt of their damages in order not to scare the insurance companies.
i will also write to the H&E asking for their opinion…May i suggest a few more do it as well…
That’s an interesting piece Bob. Perhaps that would account for why I narrowly avoided a head on collision with one of their’s on the tight bend just over the railway bridge near Truckworld at Thurrock this morning if they’re Polish behind the wheel? I was just about to come round the corner to the left and go over the bridge and the Turner’s XF (complete with huge dent in driver’s door and side panel) came steaming round the corner doing a good 30mph and on my side of the road . I was [zb] fuming .
A couple of hours later I nearly had a collision with another of their’s on the A1 near in Lincs area. I was doing 50mph and an XF in Turner’s colours came flying past me (X447EEF iirc?) and pulled back into lane 1 with only half the trailer past me . I had to swerve into the pebbles to keep my mirror and o/s intact and then nearly lost control myself in pebbles as the wheel was nearly ripped out of my hands. The trailer had “Hi” in big letters on the back if that makes any difference, but it was in Turner’s colours; strange .
A couple more in Turner’s colours with “Hi” on the back came past me later and the trailer’s were covered in damage .
If it’s true that the Poles are driving for them then I guess that pretty much explains the damage as from my own sightings, they really should NOT be driving anything bigger than a Smart car. Tar and brush perhaps? Maybe, but I’m going on what I’ve seen myself, not hearsay.
Ermmmmmmmm, Rob, that “Hi” isn’t Turners being nice to you!!
It stands for “Hargreaves International”, a company they bought out several years ago and they still have quite a few of Hargreaves trailers in the old colours
[quote="fred Kankayou are “WRONG”!
In France as in all EU-Counrty of western Europe,exept UK and IRL must Eastern European EU-member wait till 1th Januar 2007 till they can work there,exept they get a Workingpermit from Gov of that Country,in that Case France,which is possible[/quote]
Not wrong Fred, I am talking about Heavy Goods driving licences, not work permits.
As you al know i feel threatened by foreigners coming to do our jobs especially when there is no aparrent need for it I.E. no driver shortage.
One thing that does scare me a little though is the amount of them who bring their own cars Newark with its cake factory, Corby chilled and a few other places one thing worries me.
The amount of Polish and Latvian cars i see on the streets daily seems to be rising, now i am sure because these people have such an apparently famntastic working ethnic that they will all have U.K. insurance too so when one of them either knocks in to my car or better still kills someone it will be so easy to claim on their insurance wont it?.
jammymutt:
As you al know i feel threatened by foreigners coming to do our jobs especially when there is no aparrent need for it I.E. no driver shortage.
One thing that does scare me a little though is the amount of them who bring their own cars Newark with its cake factory, Corby chilled and a few other places one thing worries me.
The amount of Polish and Latvian cars i see on the streets daily seems to be rising, now i am sure because these people have such an apparently famntastic working ethnic that they will all have U.K. insurance too so when one of them either knocks in to my car or better still kills someone it will be so easy to claim on their insurance wont it?.
Good point Jammy.I’m finding now on quite a regular basis when some ■■■■■■ in a left ■■■■■■ car cuts me up I’ll bet a weeks wages it will have LT on the number plate although last week a Pole got in on the act.Open your eyes peeps it’s happening
Spardo:
[quote="fred Kankayou are “WRONG”!
In France as in all EU-Counrty of western Europe,exept UK and IRL must Eastern European EU-member wait till 1th Januar 2007 till they can work there,exept they get a Workingpermit from Gov of that Country,in that Case France,which is possible
Not wrong Fred, I am talking about Heavy Goods driving licences, not work permits.
Salut, David.
[/quote]
ry sorry,
You mean,if he could work there he would have to change his Licence.
i understand,but will say,as i undertand help.gv.at/Content.Node/HELP-FC.html
Umschreibung eines ausländischen Führerscheins
EWR- bzw. EU-Führerscheine werden in Österreich anerkannt, können jedoch auf freiwilliger Basis umgeschrieben werden.
Seit 1. Mai 2004 müssen Führerscheine aus den neuen Mitgliedsstaaten der EU nicht mehr umgeschrieben werden. Der “ausländische” Führerschein hat also in Österreich unbegrenzt Gültigkeit.
Gültigkeitsdauer ausländischer Führerscheine in Österreich
aus einem EWR-Staat: zeitlich unbegrenzt
aus einem Nicht-EWR-Staat: sechs Monate ab Gründung des Hauptwohnsitzes|
Wer aus einem Nicht-EWR-Staat auf Dauer www.freetranslation.com
Paraphrases of a foreign driver’s license EWR- and/or EU driver’s licenses are acknowledged in Austria, can be circumscribed however on voluntary basis.
Since 1 May 2004 driver’s licenses must be circumscribed out of the new member countries of the EU no longer. The “foreign” driver’s license has therefore validity in Austria unlimited.
Validity duration of foreign driver’s licenses in Austria out of an EWR-country: temporally unlimited out of a
not-EWR-country: six months from foundation of the head residence| who out of a not-EWR-country on duration
jammymutt:
As you al know i feel threatened by foreigners coming to do our jobs especially when there is no aparrent need for it I.E. no driver shortage.
One thing that does scare me a little though is the amount of them who bring their own cars Newark with its cake factory, Corby chilled and a few other places one thing worries me.
The amount of Polish and Latvian cars i see on the streets daily seems to be rising, now i am sure because these people have such an apparently famntastic working ethnic that they will all have U.K. insurance too so when one of them either knocks in to my car or better still kills someone it will be so easy to claim on their insurance wont it?.
nope they are insured in there own land the pole i was talking to the other week (works for furgasons(spelling) told me his bmw is 450 quid a year cheaper to insue in poland
shaun:
nope they are insured in there own land the pole i was talking to the other week (works for furgasons(spelling) told me his bmw is 450 quid a year cheaper to insue in poland
Why is it that the majority of the PL, LT and LV cars that I see on the road here, or indeed in car parks at my work and places I deliver to are BMWs with tinted windows■■?
It did always used to be LT cars that I saw, but now there are loads of PL cars everywhere, ok they’re out number by about 1000 to 1 by British cars but they definetly do register on quite a large scale.
shaun:
…is 450 quid a year cheaper to insue in poland
But does it provide sufficient third party cover?
I very much doubt its worth a toss ,
so when mr east european bowls around the corner and crashes into my car I will expect to be met with a sudden lack of english , alot of shoulder shrugging and a even blanker then normal expression from my east european friend, the old bill wont want to chase it for me because its too much hassle , it will probley involve a private lawyer and alot of time and expense with the end result being bugger all.
But hey ho at least they are filling jobs that the British are too lazy to do.
If they are clever enough , which I somewhat doubt , they would have sourced the insurance from they same place as they “took” their HGV licence and got a discount for "buying " both together.
I have left some large gaps between paragraphs so the normal "hearsay " merchants can put down their remarks alittle easier.
EU Country have to akcept Driving Licence from other EU Country.
HGV,and Bus Driver have to do over 45 of Age all 5 Year a Healthcheck and must then change(renew) there Licence.
Some country have no experiancedate on there Licence,but may have it after 45 as HGV or Bus Driver.
Cardriver may have to go still as unexperianced Licence or how it is in each Country
. I was [zb] fuming 
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