Police interceptors & lorry driver camera

Carryfast:

FarnboroughBoy11:

Carryfast:

FarnboroughBoy11:
But how man times do you see a car in lane 1 and a car on a slip road both break simultaneously and ending up at about 20 mph. Fact is motorway traffic has priority and no matter how you try and butter it up, it’s down to the vehicle merging from a slip road to join safely… No one else on the live carriage way should have to bat an eye lid.

I wouldn’t like to bet on it in a case such as this one bearing in mind the seperation distance between the trucks which the car trying to merge got caught up in the middle of.Which still leaves the question of wether you’d take the same view if it was a truck in a similar situation that the car was in,of which I’ve seen plenty of times in my time and luckily for all concerned had made allowances for accordingly.Although the option of not batting an eyelid was always there.It’s my bet in that case that most of those truck drivers who wouldn’t bat an eye lid and who’d put a car into the same situation as in this case wouldn’t do the same thing if it was a truck instead.Unless they’ve got suicidal tendencies. :open_mouth: In which case it all then becomes a case of double standards and bullying concerning car drivers because the results would obviously be a lot different in the case of the vehicle entering from the slip road being a truck. :bulb:

In my experience this hardly ever happens with a truck instead of a car because of the simple fact that a truck driver forward plans and reads the speed and traffic flow far better than an idiot car driver who gets the end of the slip road then actually brakes when he/she realises she has just drove blindly into a developing hazard.
And anyway, sometimes this does happen with other trucks, for example jct 22 northbound on the M1, massive uphill climb and when there is a truck wanting to enter the carriage way if we end up side by side before the end of the slip then he will have to ease off and tuck in behind.
And the same goes when I want to enter a motorway, I don’t expect anyone to adjust for me because its my prerogative to adjust to the carriageway.

I’m not saying anything about side by side traffic ( the car didn’t hit the truck in a side by side type collision ).My argument is one of it all being about anticipation on the ‘approach’ to an entry slip road in which case it’s not rocket science to work out that traffic merging from the slip road will need the ‘space’ to merge safely ‘between’ the vehicles on the road being entered.

In this case it’s obvious that the truck driver in question was not only tail gating the truck ahead,to the point of not being able to stop in the event of the truck ahead needing to make an emergency stop,but the same lack of seperation distance also caused the accident in which merging traffic ( car ) was left with no space between the vehicles to merge safely.

The accident in question was inevitable from the start of the video ( at least from 0.04 and before that ),long before the car actually collided with the truck,in large part caused by the tail gating shown on the video from that point on and the total lack of anticipation shown by the truck driver on approach to the entry slip road.Priority in that case means zb especially as I’ve said if the truck driver hadn’t have been so lucky in that firstly the truck ahead had needed to make an emergency stop for whatever reason and secondly if the car’s wheels had ‘dug in’ as it was being pushed sideways and then rolled. :unamused:

But exactly what do you mean by ‘adjusting to the carriageway’ from an entry slip road assuming that ‘carriageway’ is full of tailgating tossers. :unamused:

The car drove into the side of the truck!!! If this goes to court its the fact that the truck done nothing apart from continuing on its course and maintained its speed that the verdict will no doubt be in favor of the truck.
Whether the truck was tailgating the truck in front has got nothing to do with it. ( i personally think the driver was checking his O/S mirror planning an overtake as he was gaining on the truck in front ) but that is just my speculation.

This is a ridiculous discussion, jesus christ what has happened on here… we got professional drivers on here that think if a car drives into the side of a truck then its the trucks fault and in another thread you got another driver who thinks that if a truck hits a bridge then its the transport planners,highways agency, vosa, police’s fault and that the government should invest 10 grand into each bridge to put a million flashing warning lights around it. ■■■■■■■ unreal.

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

:unamused:

You’ve clearly misunderstood my “logic”.

My “logic” is that you should anticipate and plan ahead when approaching a sliproad. You should expect stupidity from some car drivers and you should adjust your speed/positioning to compensate for it.

It’s not difficult to check your mirrors or look out the side windows regardless of who has right of way.

I have to reduce my speed or change lanes whenever I get a truck forcing its way into the lane in. Perhaps that explains why I don’t have collisions with other vehicles?

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

:unamused:

You’ve clearly misunderstood my “logic”.

My “logic” is that you should anticipate and plan ahead when approaching a sliproad. You should expect stupidity from some car drivers and you should adjust your speed/positioning to compensate for it.

It’s not difficult to check your mirrors or look out the side windows regardless of who has right of way.

I have to reduce my speed or change lanes whenever I get a truck forcing its way into the lane in. Perhaps that explains why I don’t have collisions with other vehicles?

What you mean like expecting and anticipating something stupid like a car driving the wrong way down a slip road?? :laughing:

And you shouldn’t have to reduce your speed or change lanes when a truck “forces” its way onto a carriage way.
You’re a copper arnt you? so why dont you enforce the law to drivers who try and force there way onto the carriage way instead of getting out of their way??
And i dont have collisions with other vehicles either and i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck, but i suppose im just clearly a better driver, no big deal.

Well after reading these pages its nice to see that certain members have already condemned the truck driver straight away. So just for those that have…

At the end of the day we are viewing a 51 second film from one view point! I will play devils advocate and to those saying that the truck driver should have knocked it back a couple, i will pose this question…

Why didnt the car driver leave 52 seconds earlier and they wouldnt have found themselves on a youtube video?

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

:unamused:

You’ve clearly misunderstood my “logic”.

My “logic” is that you should anticipate and plan ahead when approaching a sliproad. You should expect stupidity from some car drivers and you should adjust your speed/positioning to compensate for it.

It’s not difficult to check your mirrors or look out the side windows regardless of who has right of way.

I have to reduce my speed or change lanes whenever I get a truck forcing its way into the lane in. Perhaps that explains why I don’t have collisions with other vehicles?

What you mean like expecting and anticipating something stupid like a car driving the wrong way down a slip road?? :laughing:

And you shouldn’t have to reduce your speed or change lanes when a truck “forces” its way onto a carriage way.
You’re a copper arnt you? so why dont you enforce the law to drivers who try and force there way onto the carriage way instead of getting out of their way??
And i dont have collisions with other vehicles either and i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck, but i suppose im just clearly a better driver, no big deal.

I expect and anticipate something stupid from all drivers any time I’m driving, “professional” ones included.

As far as I’m aware, “coppers” aren’t on duty 24/7 so why would/could they enforce the law when off duty and driving their own private vehicle? :unamused:

You’re “clearly a better driver”? How do you come to that conclusion? :confused: Sounds like you’re one of these drivers who blocks people. Hardly a “better driver”.

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

:unamused:

You’ve clearly misunderstood my “logic”.

My “logic” is that you should anticipate and plan ahead when approaching a sliproad. You should expect stupidity from some car drivers and you should adjust your speed/positioning to compensate for it.

It’s not difficult to check your mirrors or look out the side windows regardless of who has right of way.

I have to reduce my speed or change lanes whenever I get a truck forcing its way into the lane in. Perhaps that explains why I don’t have collisions with other vehicles?

What you mean like expecting and anticipating something stupid like a car driving the wrong way down a slip road?? :laughing:

And you shouldn’t have to reduce your speed or change lanes when a truck “forces” its way onto a carriage way.
You’re a copper arnt you? so why dont you enforce the law to drivers who try and force there way onto the carriage way instead of getting out of their way??
And i dont have collisions with other vehicles either and i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck, but i suppose im just clearly a better driver, no big deal.

I expect and anticipate something stupid from all drivers any time I’m driving, “professional” ones included.

As far as I’m aware, “coppers” aren’t on duty 24/7 so why would/could they enforce the law when off duty and driving their own private vehicle? :unamused:

You’re “clearly a better driver”? How do you come to that conclusion? :confused: Sounds like you’re one of these drivers who blocks people. Hardly a “better driver”.

I sound like one of these drivers that blocks people?? :confused: :confused: :confused: can you elaborate on that assumption please?

gonzothejaffa1:

Carryfast:

Diesel dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5VL2sO9wU
Try again :blush:

Maybe it might have helped if the truck driver who hit the car had left a decent seperation distance from the truck in front including sufficient for a vehicle to enter from the slip road between them.If the wagon in front had needed to make an emergency stop for whatever reason the one behind would probably have run into it at that point regardless of the actual accident which took place. :unamused:

and maybe just bloomin maybe if the car driver had read the [zb] highway code and gave way instead of trying to barge his/her way in then maybe there would be fewer of this type of accident friggin darwin award contenders the lot of them :unamused:

They were both in the wrong in my opinion. The truck should have had a greater distance and have been more curious toward other drivers joining. People who make no effort to allow others to join are arse holes!

But the civic driver should have been looking, I mean Jesus Christ you don’t just try and ram your way infront of a lorry.

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

Put it another way just supposing someone was driving at 165 mph in lane 1 of the M25 and then managed to hit someone who didn’t give way at an entry slip road.Or decided to change lanes from lane 2 to lane 1 just as someone decided to enter from an entry slip road into what ( was up to that point ) a clear lane 1.In both those cases the actions of the driver on the priority road would have been taken into account in just the same way that a tailgater removing the space for a car to merge safely would be.None of those cases have any relation to the issues of a car heading down an exit slip road on the wrong side of the road.

Having said that the accident involving the driver who drove down the wrong way down the exit slip road on the wrong side is arguable in that the local council,if not zb uk,road signing,in which the only thing stopping that seems to have been a worn out,faded white arrow,resulting in not just that accident,painted on the ground,seems to have been a contributory factor,resulting in other similar accidents there,which the driver’s defence seems to have missed. :unamused:

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FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

:unamused:

You’ve clearly misunderstood my “logic”.

My “logic” is that you should anticipate and plan ahead when approaching a sliproad. You should expect stupidity from some car drivers and you should adjust your speed/positioning to compensate for it.

It’s not difficult to check your mirrors or look out the side windows regardless of who has right of way.

I have to reduce my speed or change lanes whenever I get a truck forcing its way into the lane in. Perhaps that explains why I don’t have collisions with other vehicles?

What you mean like expecting and anticipating something stupid like a car driving the wrong way down a slip road?? :laughing:

And you shouldn’t have to reduce your speed or change lanes when a truck “forces” its way onto a carriage way.
You’re a copper arnt you? so why dont you enforce the law to drivers who try and force there way onto the carriage way instead of getting out of their way??
And i dont have collisions with other vehicles either and i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck, but i suppose im just clearly a better driver, no big deal.

I expect and anticipate something stupid from all drivers any time I’m driving, “professional” ones included.

As far as I’m aware, “coppers” aren’t on duty 24/7 so why would/could they enforce the law when off duty and driving their own private vehicle? :unamused:

You’re “clearly a better driver”? How do you come to that conclusion? :confused: Sounds like you’re one of these drivers who blocks people. Hardly a “better driver”.

I sound like one of these drivers that blocks people?? :confused: :confused: :confused: can you elaborate on that assumption please?

You said “i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck”. You therefore must block people then.

It’s certainly not the driving I’d expect from the “better driver” you claim to be.

RoadsRat:

mickyblue:
So the Lorry drivers are not at fault at all. It was the muppet driving the car who is to blame for that as he didn’t think or use his head whilst driving and joining a busy motorway.

Didn’t they teach you any roads stuff at PCSO school?

Yes the car driver is to blame but the truck driver must also share some blame. He made no attempt to stop it from happening, something I’d expect a professional driver to do.

Firstly little fella, get with the times. Secondly, PCSO school, what is one of those, saying that when i was a PC they didn’t have a school either.

Right back on topic.

I can picture it. The lorry driver might of been watching the slip road as he was driving. Due to the speed, and the distance to the end of the slip road he might of noticed the dippy car driver sitting near to the back of his trailer wheels and thought he wouldn’t try it. So he then set his eyes on driving forward. little bit later the numpty car driver sneaks up the inside into his blind spot and attempts to squeeze in to a gap and comes out worse.

The car driver could of hung back and planned his route better, but like all car drivers they, never look past there bonnet.

By the way, your not Robk under a different name are you. Sort of have the same posting styles.

commonrail:
yes,yes…we all know he was too close to the truck in front…yawn :unamused:

does`nt explain to me though,why the car driver virtually committed suicide

This sums it up but curryfart aka mrknownothingatallgoogleman dismisses the car driver and blames the accident on the truck driver who were within there right to carry on driving as normal.

mickyblue:

RoadsRat:

mickyblue:
So the Lorry drivers are not at fault at all. It was the muppet driving the car who is to blame for that as he didn’t think or use his head whilst driving and joining a busy motorway.

Didn’t they teach you any roads stuff at PCSO school?

Yes the car driver is to blame but the truck driver must also share some blame. He made no attempt to stop it from happening, something I’d expect a professional driver to do.

Firstly little fella, get with the times. Secondly, PCSO school, what is one of those, saying that when i was a PC they didn’t have a school either.

Right back on topic.

I can picture it. The lorry driver might of been watching the slip road as he was driving. Due to the speed, and the distance to the end of the slip road he might of noticed the dippy car driver sitting near to the back of his trailer wheels and thought he wouldn’t try it. So he then set his eyes on driving forward. little bit later the numpty car driver sneaks up the inside into his blind spot and attempts to squeeze in to a gap and comes out worse.

The car driver could of hung back and planned his route better, but like all car drivers they, never look past there bonnet.

By the way, your not Robk under a different name are you. Sort of have the same posting styles.

I’ve been lurking for a few years. You were a PCSO who failed to make it as a PC. Your police advice on motoring matters has provided me with much hilarity.

a few months ago mickyblue:
I will admit, i didn’t make the standard required of a copper, but i did meet the standard as a PCSO, which i regret leaving the role.

I bow down to your superior knowledge. :unamused:

No, not “RobK”.

mickyblue:

commonrail:
yes,yes…we all know he was too close to the truck in front…yawn :unamused:

does`nt explain to me though,why the car driver virtually committed suicide

This sums it up but curryfart aka mrknownothingatallgoogleman dismisses the car driver and blames the accident on the truck driver who were within there right to carry on driving as normal.

The difference is I know enough not to have ended up as yet another statistic of all those truck drivers over the years who’ve excercised their right to carry on driving ‘as usual’ too close to the wagon in front.Until the day their luck runs out. :unamused:

RoadsRat:

mickyblue:

RoadsRat:

mickyblue:
So the Lorry drivers are not at fault at all. It was the muppet driving the car who is to blame for that as he didn’t think or use his head whilst driving and joining a busy motorway.

Didn’t they teach you any roads stuff at PCSO school?

Yes the car driver is to blame but the truck driver must also share some blame. He made no attempt to stop it from happening, something I’d expect a professional driver to do.

Firstly little fella, get with the times. Secondly, PCSO school, what is one of those, saying that when i was a PC they didn’t have a school either.

Right back on topic.

I can picture it. The lorry driver might of been watching the slip road as he was driving. Due to the speed, and the distance to the end of the slip road he might of noticed the dippy car driver sitting near to the back of his trailer wheels and thought he wouldn’t try it. So he then set his eyes on driving forward. little bit later the numpty car driver sneaks up the inside into his blind spot and attempts to squeeze in to a gap and comes out worse.

The car driver could of hung back and planned his route better, but like all car drivers they, never look past there bonnet.

By the way, your not Robk under a different name are you. Sort of have the same posting styles.

I’ve been lurking for a few years. You were a PCSO who failed to make it as a PC. Your police advice on motoring matters has provided me with much hilarity.

a few months ago mickyblue:
I will admit, i didn’t make the standard required of a copper, but i did meet the standard as a PCSO, which i regret leaving the role.

I bow down to your superior knowledge. :unamused:

No, not “RobK”.

Police advice on traffic, i am giving it as a driver. The car driver should of gave in and slipped in behind him, but no he attempts to get in front like a prat. End off!

I’ve been driving since 2004 when i passed my test (Not for a living but have done some millage) We all know how to drive and we all do it differently to others around us. I drive defensively maybe that is because i ride a motorcycle. if i was that car i would have slipped behind the truck and then went in to lane 2 and went on my merry way. So this is advice as a DRIVER not police. Don’t know why you think that as i have been out of the job for 6 months, maybe your just trolling for reactions, who knows.

al to be blunt i don’t care what you think about how i did in my last job, but i would love to see how you could do it though Mr hero. (Waiting for a hero reply)

If your not “Robk” why are you hiding behind a name then?

Carryfast:

mickyblue:

commonrail:
yes,yes…we all know he was too close to the truck in front…yawn :unamused:

does`nt explain to me though,why the car driver virtually committed suicide

This sums it up but curryfart aka mrknownothingatallgoogleman dismisses the car driver and blames the accident on the truck driver who were within there right to carry on driving as normal.

The difference is I know enough not to have ended up as yet another statistic of all those truck drivers over the years who’ve excercised their right to carry on driving ‘as usual’ too close to the wagon in front.Until the day their luck runs out. :unamused:

So how is that a factor in the accident then? when the car driver was coming from the left? he could have just sliped in behind and gaveway to the traffic on his right.

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

:unamused:

You’ve clearly misunderstood my “logic”.

My “logic” is that you should anticipate and plan ahead when approaching a sliproad. You should expect stupidity from some car drivers and you should adjust your speed/positioning to compensate for it.

It’s not difficult to check your mirrors or look out the side windows regardless of who has right of way.

I have to reduce my speed or change lanes whenever I get a truck forcing its way into the lane in. Perhaps that explains why I don’t have collisions with other vehicles?

What you mean like expecting and anticipating something stupid like a car driving the wrong way down a slip road?? :laughing:

And you shouldn’t have to reduce your speed or change lanes when a truck “forces” its way onto a carriage way.
You’re a copper arnt you? so why dont you enforce the law to drivers who try and force there way onto the carriage way instead of getting out of their way??
And i dont have collisions with other vehicles either and i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck, but i suppose im just clearly a better driver, no big deal.

I expect and anticipate something stupid from all drivers any time I’m driving, “professional” ones included.

As far as I’m aware, “coppers” aren’t on duty 24/7 so why would/could they enforce the law when off duty and driving their own private vehicle? :unamused:

You’re “clearly a better driver”? How do you come to that conclusion? :confused: Sounds like you’re one of these drivers who blocks people. Hardly a “better driver”.

I sound like one of these drivers that blocks people?? :confused: :confused: :confused: can you elaborate on that assumption please?

You said “i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck”. You therefore must block people then.

It’s certainly not the driving I’d expect from the “better driver” you claim to be.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: yep, must do :unamused: :unamused:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

FarnboroughBoy11:

RoadsRat:

akaday:
Another silly truck driver hey, tut tut ■■■■ cars on slips roads!!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela … K9-Ikcu0sY

Are you stupid because that is nothing like the other sliproad video. The car driver is obviously 100% at fault.

Are you sure the car driver is 100% at fault■■? going by your logic on this thread the truck driver should be partly to blame because he was on the limiter doing 89kph and not the speed limit for that road which is 80kph. (it shows his speed in another video)

Of course the car is 100% at fault but your logic deciphering the two separate accidents is totally different.

:unamused:

You’ve clearly misunderstood my “logic”.

My “logic” is that you should anticipate and plan ahead when approaching a sliproad. You should expect stupidity from some car drivers and you should adjust your speed/positioning to compensate for it.

It’s not difficult to check your mirrors or look out the side windows regardless of who has right of way.

I have to reduce my speed or change lanes whenever I get a truck forcing its way into the lane in. Perhaps that explains why I don’t have collisions with other vehicles?

What you mean like expecting and anticipating something stupid like a car driving the wrong way down a slip road?? :laughing:

And you shouldn’t have to reduce your speed or change lanes when a truck “forces” its way onto a carriage way.
You’re a copper arnt you? so why dont you enforce the law to drivers who try and force there way onto the carriage way instead of getting out of their way??
And i dont have collisions with other vehicles either and i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck, but i suppose im just clearly a better driver, no big deal.

I expect and anticipate something stupid from all drivers any time I’m driving, “professional” ones included.

As far as I’m aware, “coppers” aren’t on duty 24/7 so why would/could they enforce the law when off duty and driving their own private vehicle? :unamused:

You’re “clearly a better driver”? How do you come to that conclusion? :confused: Sounds like you’re one of these drivers who blocks people. Hardly a “better driver”.

I sound like one of these drivers that blocks people?? :confused: :confused: :confused: can you elaborate on that assumption please?

You said “i dont adjust my speed or change lanes when im in a car or in a truck”. You therefore must block people then.

It’s certainly not the driving I’d expect from the “better driver” you claim to be.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: yep, must do :unamused: :unamused:

we all need to beat you now as your such a bad driver! :smiley: :wink: :wink:

mickyblue:

Carryfast:

mickyblue:

commonrail:
yes,yes…we all know he was too close to the truck in front…yawn :unamused:

does`nt explain to me though,why the car driver virtually committed suicide

This sums it up but curryfart aka mrknownothingatallgoogleman dismisses the car driver and blames the accident on the truck driver who were within there right to carry on driving as normal.

The difference is I know enough not to have ended up as yet another statistic of all those truck drivers over the years who’ve excercised their right to carry on driving ‘as usual’ too close to the wagon in front.Until the day their luck runs out. :unamused:

So how is that a factor in the accident then? when the car driver was coming from the left? he could have just sliped in behind and gaveway to the traffic on his right.

If I’ve read it right you’ve been driving ‘defencively’ since 2004 and you still haven’t learn’t yet as to why it’s a good idea to leave ( a lot ) more seperation distance than that which the truck driver involved in the accident,in the video in question,left especially on the approach to entry slip roads and why that was the main factor in the accident.Maybe when you’ve got ( a bit ) more experience of driving trucks,like another 10 years or so :unamused: ,you might,eventually,find out what they obviously didn’t teach you during your driving instruction.Which really shows the level of driver training and examination standards in recent years. :unamused:

Although having said that if I’ve read it right it’s not clear wether you’ve actually driven a truck ( and certainly obviously not doing around 2,000 miles per week for around 15 years mostly on motorways with a safe record ) anyway in those few years since you passed your bike test. :unamused: :laughing:

one second, or maybe a second half gap behind the truck in front. BUT, how are they to blame if the car driver decides to pull in front of a truck when it must of been clear to him that he wouldn’t make it before he even had a think about it.

Curryfart. I can drive and i DO stay back futher then that truck in the video, and i am also not stupid as your trying to make me out to be.

I drive 5 days a week in a P280 Scania rigid 6 wheeler 52mph max.

You have it fixed in your head that the trucks are to blame. We will go around in circles and won’t agree. You will also just drag this topic out for a further 10 pages as you do. Enjoy

Although having said that if I’ve read it right it’s not clear wether you’ve actually driven a truck ( and certainly obviously not doing around 2,000 miles per week for around 15 years mostly on motorways with a safe record ) anyway in those few years since you passed your bike test.

I do runs in areas, for example i go to Harlow for the day and do 16 drops and head back. Do in total 5-6 hours driving and go home after a 10-11 hour day. I am a day driver not a tramper so why would i be doing 2,000 miles a day?

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