ROG:
PMQs had a lorry driver question today about the hot food facilities or rather lack thereof
Listen the best you will ever get is a bottle of water and a samba because your not front line workers
They get a 3 course meal for nothing no cost
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Mazzer2:
Sidevalve:
UKtramp:
I actually watched the question time today and the answers given was that all motorway services were open to hgv drivers with as many facilities made available as possible. Also it was recognised that drivers were key workers and a complete rethink of our system on workers who we rely on would be under review. Although a pretty much standard and expected answer at least it looks promising for the future. I genuinely believe the outlook for the haulage industry will change in the next couple of years and for the better. Incoming expected.I’ve just watched it and agree with you.
Cynics will be disappointed to find that it was a Scottish Conservative MP who raised the question. Where’s the union-sponsored Labour MP’s who purport to be looking after workers’ interests when you need them?
Labour stopped worrying about the working class about 20 years ago when it became the party of the liberal middle classes for London
I would put it more like 30 years back. When Saatchi & Saatchi turned advertising into a political tool, and many previously Labour voters left the party, only those you mention were left.
And the previous advertising slogans replacing political debate has now been replaced by Facebook campaigns and media (all types) propaganda and manipulation.
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Did Labour desert the working classes? Or did they walk away?
Argue about whether it was through Falklands effect, council house sales, media bias or whatever.
Franglais:
Mazzer2:
Labour stopped worrying about the working class about 20 years ago when it became the party of the liberal middle classes for LondonI would put it more like 30 years back. When Saatchi & Saatchi turned advertising into a political tool, and many previously Labour voters left the party, only those you mention were left.
And the previous advertising slogans replacing political debate has now been replaced by Facebook campaigns and media (all types) propaganda and manipulation.
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Did Labour desert the working classes? Or did they walk away?
Argue about whether it was through Falklands effect, council house sales, media bias or whatever.
Labour have had plenty of time to look at themselves, how to work the new media landscape and work out why they lost the ordinary persons “working class” vote and how they get back to the party that represents them.
However they’re now so lost in their own insular world of activists, out of touch intellectuals and the “liberal middle class” (although the word liberal, seems to be anything but) they think they know what is best for us instead of listening to people.
Sidevalve:
cav551:
UKtramp:
I actually watched the question time today and the answers given was that all motorway services were open to hgv drivers with as many facilities made available as possible. Also it was recognised that drivers were key workers and a complete rethink of our system on workers who we rely on would be under review. Although a pretty much standard and expected answer at least it looks promising for the future. I genuinely believe the outlook for the haulage industry will change in the next couple of years and for the better. Incoming expected.I think you can take it more of a threat than anything else. The Filthies re-evaluation will have a new Essential Workers Act with powers to imprison anyone in the category who goes on strike.
They can’t even do that with the police and fire service so i doubt there’s much chance of it happening with lorry drivers.
Times have moved on a bit since the Tolpuddle martyrs you know.
I thought the Police are already banned from taking strike action and during the election the Conservatives were talking about tougher laws to stop rail workers stopping services, including minimum service agreements and a lift of the ban of replacing striking workers with agency workers. This would basically mean the strikes would be ineffective, although considering the history of the Road Haulage industry when it comes to workers joining together in industrial action to even keep the basic conditions, I doubt the Conservatives are too worried about a strike ban in the industry. 
LisasGuy:
As soon as this is over we will go back to being inconvenient to the car driving public & filthy peasants to homeowners.
Enjoy the empty roads as that is our reward for working through this nothing more.
+1 and as this celebrity culture is a massive industry it will be back to full on once their agents (they need to get a lot of money back) are allowed to push them onto every show to tell us their sob story of how they coped with the lockdown, of course they’ll mention NHS workers, got to get the brownie points.
UKtramp:
Sidevalve:
I’ve just watched it and agree with you.Cynics will be disappointed to find that it was a Scottish Conservative MP who raised the question. Where’s the union-sponsored Labour MP’s who purport to be looking after workers’ interests when you need them?
Thank god they never got in. This government is one of the best we have had for this country in years. There is definitely a shift in the way people view key workers now. The realisation that the likes of the reality TV celebrities and the highly paid footballers are not essential or as important as your average low paid truck driver is. It should have a positive effect.
Eh, have you been drinking Domestos?
Ffs get me out a here 
By the time this lockdown ends, we might see a UK where anyone “Back at work” is a key worker, and everyone who finds their industry has now disappeared - won’t be.
Say goodbye to Tattoo parlours, Dog Groomers, Second-rate eateries, and non-education connected creches for starters…
muckles:
LisasGuy:
As soon as this is over we will go back to being inconvenient to the car driving public & filthy peasants to homeowners.
Enjoy the empty roads as that is our reward for working through this nothing more.+1 and as this celebrity culture is a massive industry it will be back to full on once their agents (they need to get a lot of money back) are allowed to push them onto every show to tell us their sob story of how they coped with the lockdown, of course they’ll mention NHS workers, got to get the brownie points.
But isnt that what celebrity culture is all about? Media exposure? At the minute all the little kids are seeing doctors and nurses saving lives, firefighters rescuing people, police officers kicking the ■■■■ out of chavs and truckers delivering all their worldly desires. So that’s who they want to be.
In a month or two when the football season starts and them tv talent shows trying to get the christmas number one are filling the screens, THATS who the kids will want to be again.
Everything that these “key workers” have done for the past few months will be forgotten and we’ll just go back to what we were.
Winseer:
By the time this lockdown ends, we might see a UK where anyone “Back at work” is a key worker, and everyone who finds their industry has now disappeared - won’t be.Say goodbye to Tattoo parlours, Dog Groomers, Second-rate eateries, and non-education connected creches for starters…
I agree, a lot of businesses that people have worked hard to establish may well disappear altogether and become banned from ever opening again. I do not think dog groomers will be on that list or in that category though. Dog grooming can be done safely and without much contact with their owners. I have two french poodles that get groomed every 5 weeks and are now desperate for doing.
Nite Owl:
Everything that these “key workers” have done for the past few months will be forgotten and we’ll just go back to what we were.
Whilst this is a distinct possibility and in some respects certain things will return to normality, key workers will not be forgotten.
UKtramp:
Nite Owl:
Everything that these “key workers” have done for the past few months will be forgotten and we’ll just go back to what we were.Whilst this is a distinct possibility and in some respects certain things will return to normality, key workers will not be forgotten.
After the Feedback accusations 
…I’m treading really carefully here mate by responding to you on first time since. and worse…I’m disagreeing with you…(again) .
Ok, NHS, Dotors , Nurses and the like I agree.
As for us being essential or key.? (Not me I’m off btw) … As I’ve said before, people, the public in general and especially self serving MPs, have short memories, the latter not giving a flying ■■■■ about our welfare and daily plights.
The lads I know who are still working, are telling me they’re getting all sorts of tokens of recognition, appreciation and praise off the public, from waves and signs on M.way bridges to getting cups of tea and sandwiches, …ok. yeh, which is nice to see, and a complete contrast to how we are usually looked upon.
However, when all this is done, who knows?.. there will maybe be remnants of it all hanging over for a couple of weeks, but then normality kicks in, it’ll be history, and we’ll soon be back to business as usual, in a context ranging from annoyance and intolerance towards us, to an attitude of being akin to ■■■■ on their shoes.
A Tenner to the charity of yours, and my choice (Help for heroes) says 1 month max, is on it if you like?
(Unless I get you banned off site before that of course. )…joking btw. 
robroy:
A Tenner to the charity of yours, and my choice (Help for heroes) says 1 month max, is on it if you like?
(Unless I get you banned off site before that of course.
I will take that bet Rob, it’s good to disagree and sometimes to agree with others in an adult like manner, some members on here take the forum way too seriously to be adult about things, holding grudges and bitterness is not what I am about or even care for. My bet is that ALL key workers will never again be looked down on after this. The haulage industry will be viewed in a different light regardless of wage structures altering immediately. Cynics may well mock the views of others opinions in hope that it strengthens their own views or make themselves to appear somehow clever and have somehow more knowledge. If I am wrong then I have lost a tenner, if I win then all key workers have gained recognition and a charity gains a tenner into the bargain. On the whole I think we have all respected Drs and nurses anyway, drivers, cleaners and supermarket workers have never had any regard or respect for their jobs. I hope I win.