Rjan:
Carryfast:
The Sarge:
Carry fast, what scares me is that you read that [zb] and believe it. Nazis are socialist - what a moronic statement.
It’s clearly written there in black and white within the Party Title.
That’s not much of an argument considering the so-called German Democratic Republic had “democratic” in it’s name, but nobody insists that it was democratic merely because it claimed to be in it’s title.
Moreover, the fact that the Nazis set up concentration camps for socialists, communists, and trade unionists - in fact the entire ■■■■ project was conceived as an onslaught against the growing left wing in Germany, with workers sick to death of poor pay and conditions - rather undermines the argument that they were any sorts of “socialists” themselves.
Even looking at their approach to the economy, Britain (despite making no claim to be “socialist”) nationalised it’s economy extensively at the outbreak of war so that production could be directed by government. The Nazis didn’t do this until a few years later when they couldn’t carry on with private sector contracting and needed the power to reorganise the economy in their national interest without haggling out for-profit deals with a gaggle of private owners each time.
You’ll also recall that the Nazis were in power from 1933, and they did not embark on any widespread socialisation of the economy.
Blimey now you’re contradicting yourself even more.
You say that we rightly can’t give any credence to the Democratic label in the DDR title.But we’re then supposed to believe that your ideological adherence to the Socialist anti nation state collective,which just like Soviet Bolshevism, clearly by your own admission,trumps national self determination,is supposedly ‘Democratic’.
On that note let’s just say that the Socialist label in the NSDAP title is a lot more believable and credible than the ‘Democrat’ label in the DDR’s obviously Soviet backed and clearly Socialist regime.All based on their respective ideological actions and associations,not labels.
Also bearing in mind that not only do your lot try to pull that stunt once in the case of DDR v NSDAP.
You then try it twice by saying that the Socialist label within the USSR doesn’t fit with the CPSU one of the Russian Communist Party which founded the USSR.
Then three times by saying that what was clearly another anti nation state Socialist Collective,in the form of the NSDAP and which again,like the Soviet Union,abhorred the idea of respect of the right of self determination of the Nation State ( Poland for just one ),isn’t really Socialist it’s Nationalist. 
Then four times in the form of the clearly Socialist SNP pretending that it’s a Nationalist Party.
Then 5 times in the form of Corbyn hijacking the whole spectrum of the Labour vote instead of standing where he belongs on an honest Socialist Labour ticket.
It’s clear who the lying fascists are here and it certainly isn’t those on the Nationalist side,in the form of the Dali Lama or the Polish resistance to Soviet Socialist and NSDAP takeover of their right to National self determination.
While true to form it’s you who’s making all the fuss about wanting to install a pan European Socialist Soviet regime to replace Europe’s nation states and with it their right to national self determination.Then like the DDR you call it ‘democracy’.
As I said the Socialist MO has always been one of do whatever it takes whether lie and/or infiltrate,and/or just use subterfuge and force to close down free speech and opposition against it,to get into power.We can arguably now add Corbyn and Sturgeon to that list of liars together with Stasi plant Merkel.
As for the fact that both the Soviet Union and ■■■■ Germany zb on the working class,that they claimed to represent in the name of Socialism,in addition to the dictatorial,anti nation state,exploitative regime of red China,actually just adds weight to the fact that stinking lying Socialism is all about power for those at the top of its zb pile,not doing what’s good for the working class.While obviously flying under any flag of convenience when it suits its purpose to divert attention from its true colours.
While what is certain is that Communism and Socialism are the same things and that the NSDAP was just another faction of the Socialist spectrum.With the Democrat label in DDR being as believable as your idea of a so called ‘democratic’ Socialist collective in the form of an EUSSR.Or for that matter the SNP,let alone the NSDAP,being a Nationalist Party.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison … m#Unionism
