If you have nothing to hide and your conscience is clear whats the problem.
Its more than likely been because of some worker or driver has been abit naughty and now everybody is being tarred with the same brush
tommy t:
Private security are getting a bit ott, have you seen the uniform they wear at canary warf? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuYSVCW9ILs Found this the other day , One of a stores security , who IMO should be locked uphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yc8FBmaTqc
“The Love Police” are a cracking pair of fellas!! Charlie and Danny…
Everything is ok!! 
lolipop:
If you have nothing to hide and your conscience is clear whats the problem.
Nothing against yourself chap but this is always the best line. Next time a police officer asks for your personal details, please do ask them for their name, DOB, address, banking details. After all, by the sentence in the quote, they should have no issues with giving the information if they have nothing to hide 
Tipper Tom:
Security guards and door staff have right of search.They can search as a condition of entry to premises however there’s no law which allows anyone other than a police officer or similar (border agency etc) to search you.
Bang on…
I got the full works when I delivered to a prison, which I can understand, but find the personal pat down to go on the docks a bit ott.
If you want to play with them a bit, stick a typed-up notice just inside the cab door stating that it is a condition of entry to the cab that you can perform a full pat down on them as well - you’ll probably still get banned, but you can kick back a little on the way 
Gary
tonka236:
lolipop:
If you have nothing to hide and your conscience is clear whats the problem.Nothing against yourself chap but this is always the best line. Next time a police officer asks for your personal details, please do ask them for their name, DOB, address, banking details. After all, by the sentence in the quote, they should have no issues with giving the information if they have nothing to hide
Tipper Tom:
Security guards and door staff have right of search.They can search as a condition of entry to premises however there’s no law which allows anyone other than a police officer or similar (border agency etc) to search you.
Bang on…
looked up some stuff i still have, mainly for the doors, but the usual term “condition of entry applies” meaning if you want entry then you are agreeing, you dont agree= no entry…
but there are circumstances where you may agree by signing your contract, a drugs company I did some work for, staff would be subject to search on leaving the workplace, rather then entry.
^^^^. My point is it’s no legal right if search. Only powers which you bestow on them by your actions (entry to a club, work contracts etc)
dle1uk:
tonka236:
lolipop:
If you have nothing to hide and your conscience is clear whats the problem.Nothing against yourself chap but this is always the best line. Next time a police officer asks for your personal details, please do ask them for their name, DOB, address, banking details. After all, by the sentence in the quote, they should have no issues with giving the information if they have nothing to hide
Tipper Tom:
Security guards and door staff have right of search.They can search as a condition of entry to premises however there’s no law which allows anyone other than a police officer or similar (border agency etc) to search you.
Bang on…
looked up some stuff i still have, mainly for the doors, but the usual term “condition of entry applies” meaning if you want entry then you are agreeing, you dont agree= no entry…
but there are circumstances where you may agree by signing your contract, a drugs company I did some work for, staff would be subject to search on leaving the workplace, rather then entry.
Im always willing to learn. You have a law for that?
ETA: Edited as i cant seem to put my reply in the right place… and as i dont drink i cant blame it on that 
tonka236:
dle1uk:
tonka236:
lolipop:
If you have nothing to hide and your conscience is clear whats the problem.Nothing against yourself chap but this is always the best line. Next time a police officer asks for your personal details, please do ask them for their name, DOB, address, banking details. After all, by the sentence in the quote, they should have no issues with giving the information if they have nothing to hide
Tipper Tom:
Security guards and door staff have right of search.They can search as a condition of entry to premises however there’s no law which allows anyone other than a police officer or similar (border agency etc) to search you.
Bang on…
looked up some stuff i still have, mainly for the doors, but the usual term “condition of entry applies” meaning if you want entry then you are agreeing, you dont agree= no entry…
but there are circumstances where you may agree by signing your contract, a drugs company I did some work for, staff would be subject to search on leaving the workplace, rather then entry.
Im always willing to learn. You have a law for that?
ETA: Edited as i cant seem to put my reply in the right place… and as i dont drink i cant blame it on that
eh? didnt say anything about a law, just a condition of either entry to a site or a condition of your employment contract,
lolipop:
If you have nothing to hide and your conscience is clear whats the problem.
FFS! 
, Ok how far do you go with this, what about a ott jobsworth coming at you with a rubber glove and a jar of KY jelly, do you drop your kecks bend over saying “I’ve nothing to hide, what’s the problem”
Whether you have anything to hide or not stand up to these ■■■■■■■ s, and tell them to ■■■■ off!!
Illegal as already said unless they have cause on entry is a straight get knotted and an abuse of power
seems about right this
justanswer.com/uk-employment … thout.html
The starting point is that under law, a person can’t be subjected to a pat down search without their consent. Your employers are not police officers and as such would have no legal powers under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act. In addition, there is the issue of human rights and the right to privacy so that is another legal consideration in the circumstances.
If there is a contractual provision specifying the circumstances in which an employer may search employees, by entering into the contract the employee has given contractual consent to such searches. Saying that, such a right must still be exercised reasonably. Failure to do so could result in the employer breaching trust and confidence and you being able to potentially claim constructive dismissal.
If a search is a contractual policy and you unreasonably refuse to be searched, that could amount to breach of contract and could lead to disciplinary action.
Even if the search is a contractual policy and you refuse to have it done but your employer goes ahead anyway, that could amount assault, resulting again in a claim of constructive dismissal.
So the only potential defence for an employer is to show both contractual and express consent at the time of the search.
spot on Nick…
the drugs spot i was talking about, we were contracted to provide a guard, a duty manager and if neccesary a dog, on request within a couple of hours notice by the owners of the drug company, 1 night i got the call and attended and we were to meet a manager from the drug company and a member of their HR dept, we arrived 15 mins before the shift change and did what was requested with no problems, we were thanked by the manager and the HR guy, as they were about to walk out the door they were asked to stop and to consent to the search, all staff was the request, so all staff were searched, the look on their faces though was a picture…
Currently working as a Security Guard ,
We have it written on the entrance that ‘You may be searched’ …Drivers get out, we take their surname, Reg and Company name. Then send them round to warehouse.
Never check loads, camera on the warehouse (for the aviation security license…apparently) and I wouldn’t dream of asking to search a Truck. Any Security Guard/Officer/Little Hitler that does is just abusing his “powers” if you will
…Checking bosses cars when they are leaving early on a Friday to go play gold on the other hand … 
The subject of these searches has been bothering me for a while so I have done some research and would like to share with you lot my views and findings… Please don`t take anything I write as fact, it is just my opinion and interpretation.
I am one of the many shunt drivers that work the Southampton dock areas on a very regular basis, I have been pulled over for a search countless times. In one night as many as 5 times. It has become a somewhat routine part of the job and I see it as a condition of entry. As I wish to keep the job I enjoy, I reluctantly fully comply with the security personnels requests without obstruction of their duty…
However, I personally find it very intrusive, time consuming and to a point humiliating not to mention pointless. And so I often ask questions as to why this is all happening… The answers I get from the security personnel is that “the searches are to protect the safety of staff on the terminal”.
I took it upon myself to read the entire 96 pages of the Regulation (EC) No 725/2004 on enhancing ship and
port facility security on which these searches are being conducted. Very little of this document has anything to do with drivers delivering containers to the terminal, it is mostly relevant to ship traffic using port facilities, although some parts of it are relevant which I will outline later. Basicly this is anti terror legislation brought in as an emergency reaction to the terror attacks of September 11 in New York. It is a world wide agreement designed to enhance security to deter or prevent terrorist activity and or attacks.
It stipulates that searches on vehicles entering a terminal area may be undertaken to “detect weapons or substances that could pose a threat to ships or terminal operations”. These searches must be conducted with the consideration of the human rights and personal dignity of the visitor. Also that searches must be performed in an enclosed area to protect from adverse weather. And that once a visitor has been identified and cleared that no further impedance of his business shall be made whilst in the terminal area. It also stipulates that frequent and repetitive visitors should be able on request to obtain clearance in advance as to avoid random and/or constant searches.
I`m no lawyer, but it seems to me that Southampton docks are interpreting these rules in a way that suites themselves. They would not be the first organisation to abuse such anti terror laws, including the British police and district councils. When I ask them the question " so what you looking for?" and they reply, “knives, heavy blunt objects, drugs, ■■■■■■■■■■■, alcohol” I wonder, although this is stuff that is illegal and I in no way condone. Is it really related to terrorism? Do the security services really have any jurisdiction to confiscate or deny access because a driver is carrying such items.
Believe it or not, in public places we are still protected in this country from giving our id, stops and searches without reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed.
I dont expect anything to change for the better any time soon, but I do urge people that may have any concerns to read up on the actual rules that we are being governed by and to make up there own minds. Authority must always be questioned.
orcadian:
I refused a personal search at a parcel company by a hired in security guard ,called a manager ,and was given the the ok ,but I never went back to the company ( a major parcel overnighter) I wont have the intrusion by a jumped up [zb]
+1
obayslave:
Authority must always be questioned.
Absobleedinlutely! Couldn’t agree more.
Cracking first post fella, welcome.
I’ve never been subjected to a personal search.
Do you mind if I have a look in the cab, drive?. Polite so I have never objected but,aware of the risk if something is “found”, I ask the gatehouseman to “just sign and print this please mate for the insurance. Its just a formality, no need to read it”
It is long winded but confirms that I complied willingly with the search and, among other things acknowledges that the company will pay an administration charge of £100 and accepts liability to indemnify the driver for, in his opinion, whatsoever expense has been incurred
If they insist on looking in your cab ,dont let them in the drivers side incase they knock the handbrake off,watch their face alter
I’ve had it a few times here and there, they usually just poke their head inside the door, my routine for this is to wait until they get up on the bottom step and tell them to watch out for the dog, every one, without fail, will jump back a little at this
By thursday i look forward to a pat down