I heard the police suggested buddy go for a drink to calm him down he didn’t need telling twice. One of his favourite stops was the Bowling Green the pub not the one I play on! Yes he did live at Bradley.
3300John:
Hiya any of you lads remember the lorry that run away in the 70,s and run into i think Frank Wrights shop at he bottom of
the hill a couple of doors from Boots i think one person was burned badly with the tarmac(maybe a school girl)i think thats
why the one way system come about after that happened.
John
I dont remember that John but Mick might. I do remember seeing a smaller lorry that ran into (I think) Boots one afternoon but that was when I was driving trucks so very much later, possibly late 90’s? It is like Lime Tree Hill in Matlock, folk dont show them enough respect and get into trouble then.
Pete.
Can’t remember much about that but I think it was Smiths wine bar that collected the lorry. The one way system was a year or two later.can you imagine modern lorries trying to pass each other on St Johns St.
windrush:
Dan Punchard:
Looks like Buxton hill Ashbourne to me commer .It is Buxton Hill Dan but you have to excuse Robert as he would have been told about Hayfield but wouldn’t have a clue where it actually was!
Some Ballidon hauliers got Vertigo if they turned left at the road end, the only time they ran North was coming back from the West Midlands empty.
(Actually I HAVE seen a photo of Don going down the old road into Hayfield, Rob has just pressed the wrong button as he would still be half asleep!)
That AEC looked a lot different once Jim got hold of it Robert, did Tommy Johnson own it at one time as well?
Pete.
Only put what it said in the photo on the net, looking again it is Buxton hill, as for not knowing where Hayfield or anywhere north is Peter I can assure you I have been to all them towns & villages up there & a lot more as well, I took a lot of advice in years gone by off the late great Don Wayne, he was a master of driving round the Peak District, I-I-I-I Kn-Kn-Kn-ow m-m-my-y-y w-w-w-a-a-ay-y-y round th-th-there, but I-I-I ch-ch-choo oo-oo-se not to g-g-go.
You’re right about Tommy having the AEC, he sold it to Jim but Midroads also owned it for a short while too, when Jim sold it he took it to Stuart Johnson “The stores on the moors” & stuart said he’d seen some rough lorries in his time but this one is REALLY worn out, some one bought it though & ran it on internal site work to totally finish it off
1970commer:
windrush:
Dan Punchard:
Looks like Buxton hill Ashbourne to me commer .It is Buxton Hill Dan but you have to excuse Robert as he would have been told about Hayfield but wouldn’t have a clue where it actually was!
(Actually I HAVE seen a photo of Don going down the old road into Hayfield, Rob has just pressed the wrong button as he would still be half asleep!)
That AEC looked a lot different once Jim got hold of it Robert, did Tommy Johnson own it at one time as well?
Pete.
Only put what it said in the photo on the net, looking again it is Buxton hill, as for not knowing where Hayfield or anywhere north is Peter I can assure you I have been to all them towns & villages up there & a lot more as well, I took a lot of advice in years gone by off the late great Don Wayne, he was a master of driving round the Peak District, I-I-I-I Kn-Kn-Kn-ow m-m-my-y-y w-w-w-a-a-ay-y-y round th-th-there, but I-I-I ch-ch-choo oo-oo-se not to g-g-go.
You’re right about Tommy having the AEC, he sold it to Jim but Midroads also owned it for a short while too, when Jim sold it he took it to Stuart Johnson “The stores on the moors” & stuart said he’d seen some rough lorries in his time but this one is REALLY worn out, some one bought it though & ran it on internal site work to totally finish it off
Hiya if Stuart said it was worn out it was bad…i thought the stores in the moors was buckos or did it move to stuart after bucko finished
John
1970commer:
Only put what it said in the photo on the net, looking again it is Buxton hill, as for not knowing where Hayfield or anywhere north is Peter I can assure you I have been to all them towns & villages up there & a lot more as well, I took a lot of advice in years gone by off the late great Don Wayne, he was a master of driving round the Peak District, I-I-I-I Kn-Kn-Kn-ow m-m-my-y-y w-w-w-a-a-ay-y-y round th-th-there, but I-I-I ch-ch-choo oo-oo-se not to g-g-go.You’re right about Tommy having the AEC, he sold it to Jim but Midroads also owned it for a short while too, when Jim sold it he took it to Stuart Johnson “The stores on the moors” & stuart said he’d seen some rough lorries in his time but this one is REALLY worn out, some one bought it though & ran it on internal site work to totally finish it off
Haha, I can imagine Don saying that Rob! In later years you couldn’t even get him to go up Longcliffe as he “got dizzy” but he would happily go up Collycroft, a character though and there aren’t many around nowadays. I was chatting to Mick Smith from Wirksworth today in Matlock, 48 years he worked at Ballidon quarry but mostly on nights so a lot of folk didn’t know that he existed! 
That last Foden I had came from Stuarts, it had a blown engine so Eric and Frank Gough fitted a spare L10 and Fuller overdrive box in which was laying around in the garage, previously it had an 8 litre C series ■■■■■■■ like Eric’s. Quite a tidy motor in the end but a little overgeared with the overdrive box. Alas the driver (me!) and the truck were both eventually disposed of.
Going back to Don Fox I remember he offered me a job driving that Foden eight wheeler he had when we were on the M40 contract, I was tempted but at that time leaving a job like Tilcon was a no-no as there were not many tipper jobs as good. It all soon changed for the worse though.
Don had decent tackle, I think they were mostly bought new?
Pete.
windrush:
I feel as though I should remember Allan Rolland Tony but I cannot just place him? Certainly remember Norman Thorpe though, he still had a six wheeler in Dene until fairly recently and his lad Peter worked at Ballidon for a few days when STB owned the transport. Peter soon returned to work for David Bradley though, he couldn’t take to the sitting around on the tarmac jobs, or the worn out Fodens after driving Bradleys Volvos!Sadly I believe he passed away a good while ago. I used to frequent the Yew Tree occasionally when Jack ran it, a top class landlord if ever there was one.
Did you ever sell many of the K series Traders, I used to work on a few when I lived ‘Down South’ but they didn’t seem to make the impact that the Bedford TJ, Commer Superpoise or WE/WF series BMC’s had?
Pete.
Allan Rowland had a couple of 16t Ford D-Series.He had a little repair business up an alleyway op.where Gordon Thorpe used to park up but he moved to a garage in Ambergate.
Jack Hawkins worked for T.C.H. as a salesman while he was at the pub and we used to get onto him about Ofillers ( spelling ) and he agreed that it wasn’t very good.He had a coal business in Swanwick I think.
The normal control Trader was quite a decent motor but when the D-Series came out they changed it to the K-Series.That was a nice motor to drive.The cab was a modified German model.One little story was that one evening I took a tipper to Holloway to show Fred Thorpe which was loaded.I quite liked going to see customers in the evening after work as they were more relaxed.As salesmen we didn’t drive many loaded motors so coming up the hill into Holloway I had to lean forward as I thought she wasn’t going to make it.I should have got it in the right gear before I’d started.Fred drove it up without a problem but he didn’t buy one.J.H.Allen from Hilton had one and here is a very poor pic. of it but Doug said what a good motor it was
Yes Tony, the K series I worked on were nice to drive, as most normal control trucks are in fact! They were mostly farmers trucks and spent a good part of the year standing so come test time the brakes would be seized on (or off sometimes!) but otherwise they were fine. James, the brewers grain people, had some as well. I didn’t know that Jack was involved with TCH, is that how Dave Macc came to work for them as he was a Holloway lad?
Pete.
windrush:
malmic:
They were both heading downhill the artic used buddys 6wheeler as a backstop and turned them both over lucky it was a Wednesday afternoon as there was sugar stone and tarmac all over the market place . The artic was Aiden Hares fathers.Ah I hadn’t realised that Mick, I thought that Buddy was empty going uphill. I was in the garage so only saw it in the paper and it was a long time ago. I was also told that they couldn’t find buddy in the wreckage but he turned up in the Legion downing a whisky to calm his nerves, dont know if that is true or not but he wasn’t known for passing pubs. Didn’t he live at Bradley Wood? I did know that it was Aidens father’s artic, as you say a day later and it would have been carnage with being market day.
Edited to say that have found a link to the event and it was a Bedford and not a Ford, I remember buddy driving a D Series though.
ashbournenewstelegraph.co.uk … story.html
Pete.
Harry Whieldon had a couple of D-Series and I never saw them on the road but there was a bit of a problem with tippers on that chassis as the back end used to bend but Ford sorted it.I wonder what happened to the other one.
Once again.When he lived at the Yelt Farm in Doveridge I sold him a D-Series and he said he was going to look after it but he came into the garage and said his fuel guage wasn’t working but he used to put his sheet over the fuel tank so he said he wouldn’t do it again.I think he forgot he’d said that.His daughter still lives in Doveridge with her husband Alec and family.I think Don could do the work of 6 blokes and certainly as far as the ladies were concerned.
Toony
windrush:
Yes Tony, the K series I worked on were nice to drive, as most normal control trucks are in fact! They were mostly farmers trucks and spent a good part of the year standing so come test time the brakes would be seized on (or off sometimes!) but otherwise they were fine. James, the brewers grain people, had some as well. I didn’t know that Jack was involved with TCH, is that how Dave Macc came to work for them as he was a Holloway lad?Pete.
I’m not sure about if Jack was involved with Dave’s job,however I rang him a week or so ago and he is now able to put weight on his legs but is walking a bit with the help of a frame (on wheels I think).A mate of mine thought he might have a problem with his eyesight but he seems to be going on alright.Bad job though !!
Tony
With regard to Don Wayne my dad used to mot his lorry which usually meant a complete rebuild . Don was pretty nifty with the baler twine but not much else.
rastone:
I’m not sure about if Jack was involved with Dave’s job,however I rang him a week or so ago and he is now able to put weight on his legs but is walking a bit with the help of a frame (on wheels I think).A mate of mine thought he might have a problem with his eyesight but he seems to be going on alright.Bad job though !!Tony
I will have to pop along and see Dave as I live on the same street, I was told last week that he was back working but it seemed very unlikely to me? I saw the damage done to the car (an Audi/Passatt written off) so he was a VERY lucky chap to survive it and it was also fortunate that there were other mechanics there at the time to assist him as the car had no wheels on it and Dave must have taken the full weight of it! You do the job day in day out for years with no problems and then BANG, the unexpected happens.
Pete.
malmic:
With regard to Don Wayne my dad used to mot his lorry which usually meant a complete rebuild . Don was pretty nifty with the baler twine but not much else.
Yes Mick, I think Dons priorities lay elsewhere in later life! A nice chap though, as were most of the Ballidon lads, and we had some great times didn’t we?
Pete.
rastone:
windrush:
malmic:
They were both heading downhill the artic used buddys 6wheeler as a backstop and turned them both over lucky it was a Wednesday afternoon as there was sugar stone and tarmac all over the market place . The artic was Aiden Hares fathers.Ah I hadn’t realised that Mick, I thought that Buddy was empty going uphill. I was in the garage so only saw it in the paper and it was a long time ago. I was also told that they couldn’t find buddy in the wreckage but he turned up in the Legion downing a whisky to calm his nerves, dont know if that is true or not but he wasn’t known for passing pubs. Didn’t he live at Bradley Wood? I did know that it was Aidens father’s artic, as you say a day later and it would have been carnage with being market day.
Edited to say that have found a link to the event and it was a Bedford and not a Ford, I remember buddy driving a D Series though.
ashbournenewstelegraph.co.uk … story.html
Pete.
Harry Whieldon had a couple of D-Series and I never saw them on the road but there was a bit of a problem with tippers on that chassis as the back end used to bend but Ford sorted it.I wonder what happened to the other one.
Once again.When he lived at the Yelt Farm in Doveridge I sold him a D-Series and he said he was going to look after it but he came into the garage and said his fuel guage wasn’t working but he used to put his sheet over the fuel tank so he said he wouldn’t do it again.I think he forgot he’d said that.His daughter still lives in Doveridge with her husband Alec and family.I think Don could do the work of 6 blokes and certainly as far as the ladies were concerned.Toony
Sorry Pete I was talking about Don Wayne.It’s my age you know !!!
Yes Tony, I realised you meant Don! Dont worry about the age thing, there is only one way of avoiding it and we are not going there! I remember Don having a new Mercedes four wheeler, then women seemed to get in the way and he had a succession of roughish trucks until he finished with a Leyland Freighter I think. By that time there were very few four wheelers in Ballidon as six wheelers became increasingly popular.
Pete.
windrush:
Yes Tony, I realised you meant Don! Dont worry about the age thing, there is only one way of avoiding it and we are not going there!Pete.
Wasn’t the Leyland John Webster’s he replaced for his Cargo
Tony
rastone:
Wasn’t the Leyland John Webster’s he replaced for his CargoTony
Probably so Tony, as I said before a lot of the trucks changed hands but stayed in the same place if you get my meaning! It was very tidy when John owned it…
Pete.
windrush:
Yes Tony, I realised you meant Don! Dont worry about the age thing, there is only one way of avoiding it and we are not going there!Pete.
Don ran his D series & also a blue Commer TS3 that I think he bought of Alan Oldfield, he had his nephew driving that for a while then he bought that Mercedes 1617 from Basil Ainsworth at Blackshaws, Reg No. was DBF 980T if I remember correctly, it was bright orange, but after his second wife cleared him out he ran an old Dodge Hi line then that was followed by a Leyland Clydesdale, again if I remember right it was Alan Oldfield’s cast off, this was followed by his last lorry, a Leyland Freighter, we used to see Don’s lorry for a while when I worked for Denis then sometimes he would get put on stop until he paid his bill, he would then go up to see Stephen Dale or anyone else who would do a repair or two for him, they would get fed up of him & back he came to Longford again.
That’s right Robert, I had forgotten that Andy was Don’s Nephew! I guess he is still at Dales, he will be there for life I reckon? 
Pete.
malmic:
I heard the police suggested buddy go for a drink to calm him down he didn’t need telling twice. One of his favourite stops was the Bowling Green the pub not the one I play on! Yes he did live at Bradley.
Yes it was Aden s dad’s lorry ,PFK170R a scania 111,apparently the driver was know for being a bit speedy didn’t manage low range at the top of the hill due to knocking on a bit ,the scania had range change interlock he didn’t make low range ,the trailer was not damaged ,the unit had a new cab fitted ,the total claim was £100,000 ,the other driver who was already well oiled nipped in the pub to cover his tracks ,and the scania driver got his leg burnt by the leaking radiator !