PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[paul_john]

Hi Dean. Ivor D Morgan were from Cardiff. Always seemed to run low powered vehicles. They had rigid tippers and tipping trailers with folding/drop sides to load as flatbeds. Mostly coal out of S.Wales and pit props back to the collieries.
He was a fan of the F86, and F7s.
A few pages back there is a photo of a 6x4 Foden with a walking floor trailer they manufactured. Ivor had the sole U.K. rights for the Keith (U.S.) walking floor system.
After the miners strike they packed it in, and as far as I know didn’t produce many trailers.
Ivor’s son ran a sister company for a while, but also packed it in.

Paul

[pete_smith]

Hi Dean,
Back in 2016 when new I would say £135K for the unit and £32K for the trailer, but now you could add at least £8 to £10K for the outfit.

In 2015 I was paying circa £3,000 for a new 35 cu yd hooklift bin and last week I was quoted £5,600 for the same, the skip manufacturer is paying £1,100 per ton of steel and those bins are 3,300 kgs a piece. I suppose that will be blamed on Brexit, IR35 and the Eastern European lads going home!! Cheer’s Pete

[kempston]

pete smith:
Hi Dean,
Back in 2016 when new I would say £135K for the unit and £32K for the trailer, but now you could add at least £8 to £10K for the outfit.

In 2015 I was paying circa £3,000 for a new 35 cu yd hooklift bin and last week I was quoted £5,600 for the same, the skip manufacturer is paying £1,100 per ton of steel and those bins are 3,300 kgs a piece. I suppose that will be blamed on Brexit, IR35 and the Eastern European lads going home!! Cheer’s Pete

Can well believe it Pete, iirc I was buying an eight wheeler rolonoff for around £56,000 but that was many moons ago. I’m having work done on my house currently and phoned up for a 6yd skip, £230 couldn’t believe it! It’s probably why a lot of the trades are no longer taking rubbish away with them.

[paul_john]

Correction here. Dean the Ivor Morgan Foden with his walking floor trailer is on the South Wales thread page 751. Perhaps someone knows more about the trailer manufacturing side.
Here in Florida light walking floor trailers are used for mulch and sawdust, heavier duty ones for everything going into landfill sites. They are used in small numbers compared to the U.K. and very basic as are all U.S. spec trailers.

Paul

[deanb]

tastrucker:
“DEANB”

Cant make the name out on the Volvo ■■

Hello DEAN ,the Volvo is NPC Commercials Wrexham ,they haul for Playford Packaging based on the Wrexham Ind Estate ,thank you Trevor

Thanks for the info Trevor.

ArcDaz:
“DEANB”

Daz, Andrews Plant Routeman from Wareham,who are still operating today.

Great articles and great pictures on here again Dean many thanks posting them up the Andrews Scammell tipper is brilliant Daz

We have had some nice pics of Andrews Routemans Daz. He is running all Volvo’s now.

Paul John:
Hi Dean. Ivor D Morgan were from Cardiff. Always seemed to run low powered vehicles. They had rigid tippers and tipping trailers with folding/drop sides to load as flatbeds. Mostly coal out of S.Wales and pit props back to the collieries.
He was a fan of the F86, and F7s.
A few pages back there is a photo of a 6x4 Foden with a walking floor trailer they manufactured. Ivor had the sole U.K. rights for the Keith (U.S.) walking floor system.
After the miners strike they packed it in, and as far as I know didn’t produce many trailers.
Ivor’s son ran a sister company for a while, but also packed it in.

Correction here. Dean the Ivor Morgan Foden with his walking floor trailer is on the South Wales thread page 751.
Perhaps someone knows more about the trailer manufacturing side.
Here in Florida light walking floor trailers are used for mulch and sawdust, heavier duty ones for everything going into landfill sites. They are used in small numbers compared to the U.K. and very basic as are all U.S. spec trailers.

Paul

Thanks for the comments Paul John. Sounds like he was a fan of the F86 & F7 for payload. With a light weight flat bed it was
possible to load nearly 25 tons on a F86 when the limit was 32 tons !!! Unbelievable payload.

Heres that clipping for Ivor Morgan.

pete smith:
Hi Dean,
Back in 2016 when new I would say £135K for the unit and £32K for the trailer, but now you could add at least £8 to £10K for the outfit.

In 2015 I was paying circa £3,000 for a new 35 cu yd hooklift bin and last week I was quoted £5,600 for the same, the skip manufacturer is paying £1,100 per ton of steel and those bins are 3,300 kgs a piece. I suppose that will be blamed on Brexit, IR35 and the Eastern European lads going home!! Cheer’s Pete

Thanks for the prices Pete,very intresting mate,some serious wedge. When you think the steel is costing £3630.00 to build a
bin,then they are only charging £1970.00 to build it which seems cheap as its not exactly small.

Kempston:
Can well believe it Pete, iirc I was buying an eight wheeler rolonoff for around £56,000 but that was many moons ago. I’m having work done on my house currently and phoned up for a 6yd skip, £230 couldn’t believe it! It’s probably why a lot of the trades are no longer taking rubbish away with them.

They brought a landfill tax in i think a few years ago which pushed the prices up for skips. Thats why so many ■■■■■■■■■ keep fly
tipping.

[deanb]

W & S Recycling DAF from Poole.

SITA Volvo compactor/dustcart.

AMS Hino tipper.

Darley Ford Transport DAF.

Anyone know where the Oldman DAF is from ■■

Anyone recognise the Volvo FL which was still running in 2009 ■■

Moreton Cullimore Foden.

Anyone know where HAM’s Transport are based ■■

Kings Heavy haulage Volvo from Bristol.

Bale Volvo who have depot at Horton Heath near Wareham.

[deanb]

TWT Logistics DAF.

Anyone know where R.Hillman are based ■■

Anyone recognise the Foden ■■

JAGA Brothers DAF.

Ward Bros Scania.

Dont remember having a ACR Liftaway motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

Rainthorpe DAF loaded with agricultural machinery.

Northchapel Transport Volvo.

Euro Packaging Volvo.

Eric Vick MAN.

[suedehead]

DEANB:
W & S Recycling DAF from Poole.

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SITA Volvo compactor/dustcart.

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AMS Hino tipper.

7

Darley Ford Transport DAF.

6

Anyone know where the Oldman DAF is from ■■

5

Anyone recognise the Volvo FL which was still running in 2009 ■■

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Moreton Cullimore Foden.

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Anyone know where HAM’s Transport are based ■■

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Kings Heavy haulage Volvo from Bristol.

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Bale Volvo who have depot at Horton Heath near Wareham.

0

Hams transport are from Devizes

[arcdaz]

DEANB:
W & S Recycling DAF from Poole.

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SITA Volvo compactor/dustcart.

8

AMS Hino tipper.

7

Darley Ford Transport DAF.

6

Anyone know where the Oldman DAF is from ■■

5

Anhyone recognise the Volvo FL which was still running in 2009 ■■
Hello Dean the volvo FL Dudman Group from west sussex
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Moreton Cullimore Foden.

3

Anyone know where HAM’s Transport are based ■■

2

Kings Heavy haulage Volvo from Bristol.

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Bale Volvo who have depot at Horton Heath near Wareham.

0

[chris_webb]

Nice photo of the Ward Brothers Scania. They were from Malton and did a lot of work for Wincanton on the Malton Bacon contract.I knew several of their drivers when shunting at Maltby.They are still operating with another depot in Middlesborough.

[essexpete]

DEANB:
Dont remember having anything but Foden,DAF,Atkinson and i think 1 Volvo for Greenwoods. But here is a Leyland Lynx.

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Think it says Solent Shipping & Transport on the Merc just leaving Poole ferry terminal.

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Dalgety ERF bulker.

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Anyone know where the Coleman Foden is based ■■

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Maclean Maggie dump truck.

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Ridgers DAF from Lymington i think. Seen here doing traction work off Poole docks.

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Phil Horridge’s ERF European from Poole.

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E.F.phillips Octopus not far from there yard in Parkstone,Poole.

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Anyone know where the Ivor D Morgan Volvo F7 artic is based ■■

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Daz, Andrews Plant Routeman from Wareham,who are still operating today.

0

I guess the Octopus has the high datum cab at last only several years too late?

[900x20]

Greetings,All.Prismo once again.IIRC.,the Crawley Depot was at Rowfant.The entrance was plastered with try outs of various markings.
Regards to all,900x20.

[oiltreader]

“Darley Ford Transport DAF.”
Same wagon at Hamilton Services M74 September 2012.
Oily

[wideboybob]

pete 359:

Mrsteel:
Chris Webb
Good morning, re: HS Williams I believe that back in the day they operated from a yard which was situated in Whitchurch just past Truckers ( if it’s still called that ) heading towards Ross. The garage I believe was opposite the pub which is still there. After that the yard was on the old road and part of it could be seen on the right just before Truckers
Regards, Allan

Hi all,
Spoke with my old mate Paul East today,His dad drove for Ross Roadways for years,Apparently Ross bought H.S.Williams around 1982,kept two lorries and the work.Ran with two company names from then onwards…
Regards Andrew.

H S Williams’s yard was in ross on wye adjacent to where morrisons supermarket is now. the BRS yard was next door right where the supermarket is now.

[robthedog]

DEANB:
TWT Logistics DAF.

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Anyone know where R.Hillman are based ■■

8

Anyone recognise the Foden ■■

7

JAGA Brothers DAF.

6

Ward Bros Scania.

5

Dont remember having a ACR Liftaway motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

4

Rainthorpe DAF loaded with agricultural machinery.

3

Northchapel Transport Volvo.

2

Euro Packaging Volvo.

1

Eric Vick MAN.

0

Hi Dean ACE liftaway are from Yokesford Hill Romsey, they have various landfill sites in and around Romsey

[robthedog]

DEANB:
TWT Logistics DAF.

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Anyone know where R.Hillman are based ■■

8

Anyone recognise the Foden ■■

7

JAGA Brothers DAF.

6

Ward Bros Scania.

5

Dont remember having a ACR Liftaway motor on before,anyone know where they are from ■■

4

Rainthorpe DAF loaded with agricultural machinery.

3

Northchapel Transport Volvo.

2

Euro Packaging Volvo.

1

Eric Vick MAN.

0

Missed that one, Ross Hillman are from Westbury

[deanb]

Suedehead:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where HAM’s Transport are based ■■

Hams transport are from Devizes

Thanks for the info “Suedehead”.Just found another one.

ArcDaz:
“DEANB”

Anhyone recognise the Volvo FL which was still running in 2009 ■■
Hello Dean the volvo FL Dudman Group from west sussex

Cheers Daz,heres a couple newer ones that Paul sent me.

Re Andrews Plant who i mentioned was running all Volvo’s now,here’s a few Paul sent me. Think they have at least 2 FH 750’s.

Chris Webb:
Nice photo of the Ward Brothers Scania. They were from Malton and did a lot of work for Wincanton on the Malton Bacon contract.I knew several of their drivers when shunting at Maltby.They are still operating with another depot in Middlesborough.

Thanks for the comments Chris. Paul sent me this newer one and unfortunately it looks like they have gone all white !

essexpete:
“DEANB”

E.F.phillips Octopus not far from there yard in Parkstone,Poole.

I guess the Octopus has the high datum cab at last only several years too late?

Pete, Have a look at page 295 i popped alot on about the Octopus.

My uncle had an Octopus and use to carry spare injector pipes as they were prone to braking when the engine was working very hard
and he had to replace a fair few over the years. I remember him telling me a place where it happened several times was going up
Chiddeock,the steep hill at Bridport. Use to have to stop to engage crawler going up loaded !

900X20:
Greetings,All.Prismo once again.IIRC.,the Crawley Depot was at Rowfant.The entrance was plastered with try outs of various markings.
Regards to all,900x20.

Thanks for the info “900X20”

Prismo Scania 111.

oiltreader:
“Darley Ford Transport DAF.”
Same wagon at Hamilton Services M74 September 2012.
Oily

Nice pic Oily. Dont know anything about them but always thought Darley Ford was a bit of an odd name.

wideboybob:
“pete 359” “Mrsteel”
Good morning, re: HS Williams I believe that back in the day they operated from a yard which was situated in Whitchurch just past Truckers ( if it’s still called that ) heading towards Ross. The garage I believe was opposite the pub which is still there. After that the yard was on the old road and part of it could be seen on the right just before Truckers
Regards, Allan

Hi all,
Spoke with my old mate Paul East today,His dad drove for Ross Roadways for years,Apparently Ross bought H.S.Williams around 1982,kept two lorries and the work.Ran with two company names from then onwards…
Regards Andrew.
H S Williams’s yard was in ross on wye adjacent to where morrisons supermarket is now. the BRS yard was next door right where the supermarket is now.

Thanks for the info Bob.

robthedog:
Hi Dean ACE liftaway are from Yokesford Hill Romsey, they have various landfill sites in and around Romsey

Thanks for the info Rob. Cant say i remember ever seeing one,but Paul sent me a newer version.

[deanb]

robthedog:
“DEANB”

Anyone know where R.Hillman are based ■■

Missed that one, Ross Hillman are from Westbury

Should have known that Rob,but there are too many companies to try and remember.

Heres an old clipping.

[deanb]

[deanb]