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I’d say the red daf was an ex James irlam truck
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Don’t know what MRS Stood for but it was owned by William Scott and they were from Bathgate long since finished although I believe they were re incarnated as JBT
Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll service 
I don’t know if it’s true though cheers Ray ps they were from Bathgate
Some random tippers.
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Hempsall bulk MAN from 1984.
Heath Transport DAF.
Daz, Press photo of Buxton Limestone Routeman.
1982.Dont remember Charlton Brothers bodies ? Are they still going ■■
Blackfords Seddon Atkinson from 1983.
Heres a name you dont hear anymore. Ebenezer Mears from 1979. Anyone remember them amd know where
they were based ■■
Great looking Atkinson oufit of Lindley haulage from Nuneaton in 1966.
stargazer148:
Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll service
William Scott the founder who’s first business was indeed delivering morning rolls around the Bathgate & West Lothian area.
DEANB:
Heres a name you dont hear anymore. Ebenezer Mears from 1979. Anyone remember them amd know where
they were based ■■
Morning Dean, Looks like they were from Byfleet in Surrey.
tyneside:
The only auto tail gate we had was fitted to a new R reg Bison (OCN 922R) it was also operated by a central mounted air ram under the body. As you it was ok going to tip but afterwards there was always that nagging doubt if it had closed properly and you often got out to have a look which sort of defeated the object !! After a couple of years and some site damage the whole lot was removed and a new conventional tail gate made and fitted.
Tyneside
Tarmac Roadstone had them fitted to many of their Reivers and Volvo F7’s but I always thought that there would be too much heat loss as they didn’t seal that well? They would certainly have failed the infrared camera test that Tarmac later used around the quarries to check for heat loss on loaded trucks, many supposedly well insulated bodies failed and were then relegated to only carting base course instead of the hotter asphalts.
Pete.
dave docwra:
DEANB:
Heres a name you dont hear anymore. Ebenezer Mears from 1979. Anyone remember them amd know where
they were based ■■Morning Dean, Looks like they were from Byfleet in Surrey.
I remember them operating around the south, a large company at one time. Interesting that their Foden S83 in the advert was fitted with both a third diff and diff locks, Tilcon never specced their Fodens from that period with such luxuries which probably accounted for us getting bogged down a lot on sites! 
Pete.
stargazer148:
Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll service
Definitely right with the name , although they hated their cb name , Muppet Road Show back in the 80s/90s . I believe they started out with vans delivering morning rolls to the shops .
DEANB:
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J.W. & E Smiths transport from Peterborough.
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Northover Transport MAN.
The initials on the bumper are Simon Biggs I’m sure they are still operating lorries now .
Mate of mine worked for them a lot of their work was at that time was stone to London and scrap back to South Wales .6
Brackmills Volvo.
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G.M.Pearson & Son Seddon Atkinson. Anyone know where they were from ■■
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Dobsons ERF from Cheshire. Is this the same Dobson as the one from Scotland, Edinburgh i think ■■
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J.Bairner ERF.
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Erewash Garage rare Bedford TM 8 wheeler.
I dont remember ever actually seeing a TM 8 wheeler ?
Does anyone know if they made/sold many ■■1
The great looking Leyland Super Hippo.
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DEANB:
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Hempsall bulk MAN from 1984.
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Heath Transport DAF.
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Daz, Press photo of Buxton Limestone Routeman.
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1982.Dont remember Charlton Brothers bodies ? Are they still going ■■
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Blackfords Seddon Atkinson from 1983.
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Heres a name you dont hear anymore. Ebenezer Mears from 1979. Anyone remember them amd know where
they were based ■■1
Great looking Atkinson oufit of Lindley haulage from Nuneaton in 1966.
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Well done Dean these pictrues are great most of them tipper company are well known Heath transport are a fav of mine Ebenezer Mears always had a nice Foden fleet over years thanks mate for posting the press photo Buxton limestone Routeman tipper ive enjoyed looking through these articles today on this thread Daz
tyneside:
The only auto tail gate we had was fitted to a new R reg Bison (OCN 922R) it was also operated by a central mounted air ram under the body. As you it was ok going to tip but afterwards there was always that nagging doubt if it had closed properly and you often got out to have a look which sort of defeated the object !! After a couple of years and some site damage the whole lot was removed and a new conventional tail gate made and fitted.
Tyneside
Thanks for your comments “tyneside” When you bought that R reg Bison had those automatic tailboards just come out ?
Just curious as like i said yesterday i never realised they had been around that long.
robthedog:
Anyone know what the initials MRS stand for on the Renault ■■I’d say the red daf was an ex James irlam truck
Don’t know what MRS Stood for but it was owned by William Scott and they were from Bathgate long since finished although I believe they were re incarnated as JBT
Thanks for the comments Rob.
stargazer148:
Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll service
Cheers Ray. “morning roll service” 
dave docwra:
"stargazer148"Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll serviceWilliam Scott the founder who’s first business was indeed delivering morning rolls around the Bathgate & West Lothian area.
Thanks for confirming Dave.
dave docwra:
“DEANB”
Heres a name you dont hear anymore. Ebenezer Mears from 1979. Anyone remember them amd know where
they were based ■■Morning Dean, Looks like they were from Byfleet in Surrey.
Thanks for the pic Dave.
windrush:
“tyneside” The only auto tail gate we had was fitted to a new R reg Bison (OCN 922R) it was also operated by a central mounted air ram under the body. As you it was ok going to tip but afterwards there was always that nagging doubt if it had closed properly and you often got out to have a look which sort of defeated the object !! After a couple of years and some site damage the whole lot was removed and a new conventional tail gate made and fitted.
TynesideTarmac Roadstone had them fitted to many of their Reivers and Volvo F7’s but I always thought that there would be too much heat loss as they didn’t seal that well? They would certainly have failed the infrared camera test that Tarmac later used around the quarries to check for heat loss on loaded trucks, many supposedly well insulated bodies failed and were then relegated to only carting base course instead of the hotter asphalts.
Pete.
Intresting comments Pete. I imagine the newer ones must be ok now. Out of intrest is there a time limit that the bodies have
to keep the tarmac hot in the industry ? 
Never done Tarmac work but i would imagine most loads would go within a
50 mile radius of the depot 
rigsby:
“stargazer148” Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll serviceDefinitely right with the name , although they hated their cb name , Muppet Road Show back in the 80s/90s . I believe they started out with vans delivering morning rolls to the shops .
Thanks for the comments Dave. “Muppet Road Show”
logger:
“DEANB”Some random tippers.
Northover Transport MAN.
The initials on the bumper are Simon Biggs I’m sure they are still operating lorries now .
Mate of mine worked for them a lot of their work was at that time was stone to London and scrap back to South Wales .
Thanks for the name “logger”
ArcDaz:
“DEANB” Some random tippers.Heath Transport DAF.
Daz, Press photo of Buxton Limestone Routeman.
Heres a name you dont hear anymore. Ebenezer Mears from 1979. Anyone remember them amd know where
they were based ■■Well done Dean these pictrues are great most of them tipper company are well known Heath transport are a fav of mine Ebenezer Mears always had a nice Foden fleet over years thanks mate for posting the press photo Buxton limestone Routeman tipper ive enjoyed looking through these articles today on this thread Daz
Thanks for the comments Daz.
windrush:
“DEANB”
Heres a name you dont hear anymore. Ebenezer Mears from 1979. Anyone remember them amd know where
they were based ■■I remember them operating around the south, a large company at one time. Interesting that their Foden S83 in the advert was fitted with both a third diff and diff locks, Tilcon never specced their Fodens from that period with such luxuries which probably accounted for us getting bogged down a lot on sites!
Pete.
Surprised that Tilcon never fitted diff locks Pete. You would have thought most tipper companies would have them
fitted as standard. I seem to remember if you forgot to switch them off after getting off site you buggered them up
driving at normal road speeds.
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I may have delivered that Buxton Limestone Scammel , we used to take the train to Windsor on a Sunday and bring new Scammels/Rievers back , cash in hand . Started off with old Rievers and mk1 Atkis until the new motors arrived . The quarry is now a caravan park and country park .
Rookes Transport ERF
V.J.Harper Volvo F86.
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Anyone recognise the Foden,there is a name on the front rubbed out ■■
I wonder where the Chipperfields ERF started life ■■
Pollock Atkinson. Great colour scheme.
Anyone recognised the Atkinson ■■
Unusual AEC. Was this originally a airport fuel tanker like Foden below ■■
BRS Albion.
rigsby:
stargazer148:
Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll serviceDefinitely right with the name , although they hated their cb name , Muppet Road Show back in the 80s/90s . I believe they started out with vans delivering morning rolls to the shops .
MRS,aka Muppet Road Services/Show had a depot in Chesterfield,I know somebody who drove for them,didn’t stay long though,you got yer hours in apparantly. 
DeanB wrote: Intresting comments Pete. I imagine the newer ones must be ok now. Out of intrest is there a time limit that the bodies have
to keep the tarmac hot in the industry ? Never done Tarmac work but i would imagine most loads would go within a
50 mile radius of the depot
Depended on the material Dean, and if it was to spend days tipped in a council depot or being machine or hand laid on site. Wimpeys used to run reguarly into Kent with tarmac from Stoney Middleton and I have been to North London, South West Wales, Oxford, Newbury and near Kings Lynn and Ipswich. A full load should retain its heat for several hours if undisturbed, however one lad took two tonnes on a six wheeler to South London and it was like an OXO cube when he arrived on site! Tarmac later visited the quarries and plants with infrared cameras, as the trucks were loaded they had to park up for thirty minutes and then the camera scanned the body to show up any heat loss. Usually the taildoor was the weakest part but some of the newer lightweight bodies were red all along the sides as well, they were not allowed to carry the hotter asphalts then. Mine was fine being a 13 year old body specced by ARC originally.
Diff locks: with Fodens own worm and wheel diffs like the S83 would be fitted with they were an option and Tilcon only ever ordered a ‘basic’ eight wheeler chassis (usually 100+ at a time) so ‘luxuries’ just were not specified. A private buyer would spec his own truck though. When the Paccar models appeared with either Eaton or Rockwell diffs a diff lock was standard, however cross locks were still an option so we didn’t get them for many years! I occasionally spoke to a line manager at Fodens at rallies after he retired and he said that they liked the Tilcon orders as if a private buyer ordered a basic tipper chassis cab they would ‘borrow’ one from the Tilcon order and the customer was very pleased that he hadn’t had to wait long for his truck!
Pete.
Thanks for your comments “tyneside” When you bought that R reg Bison had those automatic tailboards just come out ?
Just curious as like i said yesterday i never realised they had been around that long.
Hi Dean
Just been thinking about this and the first auto t/g we had was actually on a new P reg Octopus (LPT 800P i think) with an aluminium body (the Bison that came a few months later was a steel body)
Both bodies were built by Northern Assemblies at Consett. It was their suggestion that prompted us to try one, but I am not sure where the original idea came from. IIRC the Octopus body was also the first one they had fitted with the auto system.
It was pretty simple really, a small air opertated handle next to the PTO switch which turned through 45 degrees to open the bottom flap and back again to close. The ram under the body pulled the bottom flap down (the flap was about 12inches deep). The upper part of the tail gate was conventionally hung on the top of the rear pillars.
In the early part of its life the Octo did a lot of coal and quarry work which was obvioulsy less harsh on the t/g and it lasted about 3/4 years but eventually it went on to muck shifting and more general work and again due to damage a conventional t/g was fitted.
Tyneside
All the 8whlr ERFs I drove had difflocks fitted n on the odd occasion I needed it saved the day. However I used to backload Fullers earth from Leighton buzzard way n empty down the hole wether you got stranded or not was in the lap of the gods, never knew what to dodge to be safe. No difflocks or with difflocks high/low gear or high/low revs or any combination of it made no difference, the rrs end would bounce. Short wait n the shovel driver would turn up, with that look on his face that said " God help me! who’ve we got driving this thing?" The git never hopped in to show me how to do it mind cheers. The Fodens we ran never had the same problem so presume it was something to do with the ERFs suspension design. Cheers Coomsey
rigsby:
I may have delivered that Buxton Limestone Scammel , we used to take the train to Windsor on a Sunday and bring new Scammels/Rievers back , cash in hand . Started off with old Rievers and mk1 Atkis until the new motors arrived . The quarry is now a caravan park and country park .
Thanks for your comments Dave.
Chris Webb:
“rigsby” “stargazer148” Hi Dean i was told mrs stood for morning roll serviceDefinitely right with the name , although they hated their cb name , Muppet Road Show back in the 80s/90s . I believe they started out with vans delivering morning rolls to the shops .
MRS,aka Muppet Road Services/Show had a depot in Chesterfield,I know somebody who drove for them,didn’t stay long though,you got yer hours in apparantly.
Cheers Chris.
windrush:
DeanB wrote: Intresting comments Pete.
loads would go within a 50 mile radius of the depotDepended on the material Dean, and if it was to spend days tipped in a council depot or being machine or hand laid on site. Wimpeys used to run reguarly into Kent with tarmac from Stoney Middleton and I have been to North London, South West Wales, Oxford, Newbury and near Kings Lynn and Ipswich. A full load should retain its heat for several hours if undisturbed, however one lad took two tonnes on a six wheeler to South London and it was like an OXO cube when he arrived on site!
Diff locks: with Fodens own worm and wheel diffs like the S83 would be fitted with they were an option and Tilcon only ever ordered a ‘basic’ eight wheeler chassis (usually 100+ at a time) so ‘luxuries’ just were not specified. A private buyer would spec his own truck though. When the Paccar models appeared with either Eaton or Rockwell diffs a diff lock was standard, however cross locks were still an option so we didn’t get them for many years!
Pete.
Thanks for the comments Pete. I suppose companies like Wimpey had contracts with Tilcon,so that had something
to do with trucks travelling further than seems sensible,when there must have been places closer they could have got the
same loads. Oxo cube !
With Tilcon’s buying power you would have thought they would have diff locks fitted as they would have got a good deal.
tyneside:
Thanks for your comments “tyneside”
Just curious as like i said yesterday i never realised they had been around that long.Hi Dean
Just been thinking about this and the first auto t/g we had was actually on a new P reg Octopus (LPT 800P i think) with an aluminium body (the Bison that came a few months later was a steel body)
Both bodies were built by Northern Assemblies at Consett. It was their suggestion that prompted us to try one, but I am not sure where the original idea came from. IIRC the Octopus body was also the first one they had fitted with the auto system.It was pretty simple really, a small air opertated handle next to the PTO switch which turned through 45 degrees to open the bottom flap and back again to close. The ram under the body pulled the bottom flap down (the flap was about 12inches deep). The upper part of the tail gate was conventionally hung on the top of the rear pillars.
In the early part of its life the Octo did a lot of coal and quarry work which was obvioulsy less harsh on the t/g and it lasted about 3/4 years but eventually it went on to muck shifting and more general work and again due to damage a conventional t/g was fitted.Tyneside
Its amazing how time fly’s “Tyneside” i would have never thought they had been around that long.
Heres an early easy sheet system from 1976.
coomsey:
All the 8whlr ERFs I drove had difflocks fitted n on the odd occasion I needed it saved the day. However I used to backload Fullers earth from Leighton buzzard way n empty down the hole wether you got stranded or not was in the lap of the gods, never knew what to dodge to be safe. No difflocks or with difflocks high/low gear or high/low revs or any combination of it made no difference, the rrs end would bounce. Short wait n the shovel driver would turn up, with that look on his face that said " God help me! who’ve we got driving this thing?" The git never hopped in to show me how to do it mind cheers. The Fodens we ran never had the same problem so presume it was something to do with the ERFs suspension design. Cheers Coomsey
Good old shovel drivers !
When i was a kid we used to load out of Swanworth quarries in Worth Matravers. Exiting the quarry was a steep climb
and if it had rained you could not get traction.They had Volvo loading shovels and used to pop a chain on and pull loaded
artics up there like they were nothing.
