oiltreader:
Well lit Foden gritter all credit to bilbobagweed for the photo.
Oily
Thanks for the pic Oily.
smallcoal:
Hi dean yes it is where was that taken as I can say what depot that Is ,that’s when we had plain volvos,as for the scrap load that’s how they load them
John, According to Paul he says it was taken on the M4 the other side of Cardiff and the truck was heading East.
stargazer148:
Hi Dean there’s 1of the foden 4000 gritters in the next village to me.it looks in immaculate condition cheers Ray
A Council one Ray ■■
Lance Biscomb:
DEANB PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE no more pics of CRASH BARRIES just lorries only
“Lane Biscomb” PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont bother looking at the thread if it bothers you that much !
We wont exacly miss your input, as the last time you bothered posting on here was the 19th of May 2020 !
Paul is in a vehicle doing 60/70mph and the truck is going the other way at between 40 and 56mph,and you think its
possible to miss all of the motorway central barriers,signs,lamp posts etc ? Between them they are moving well over
150 feet a second !!!
windrush: (Dean wrote) What would they have been a 150 gardner Pete ■■ How many miles did you get out of one roughly ■■
Not 150’s Dean, all ours were either 6LXB 180’s in the S39’s, S50’s and S80/83 models and 6LXC 201’s in the Haulmasters. Yes they were hard on the knees, but any truck with a non tilting cab was the same. However with the S39’s we did tilt the cab for block replacement which made it easier, it meant removing the radiator but we sent them away for testing anyway when an engine was rebuilt. Mileage varied: Tilcon had the ‘bright’ idea of running them on a synthetic oil when they were a couple of years old (they got a good deal with BP) when from new they had run on Silkoline Chatsworth 30 monograde oil and that basically knackered them as it cleaned the engine too much internally and all the carbon build up was washed away and they started using a gallon of oil daily. Next stage was ‘the Gardner smell’, a Gardner has a strange smell appear about two days before it starts knocking, and we knew then that it was nearly time to get the towbar ready! They were all disposed of after six years (Tilcon policy) and all had been rebuilt at least once. The 201’s were trouble from new though, they overheated so Gardner supplied us with modified water rails and water pump impellers for us to fit. Then they drank oil so they replaced the 201 cylinder heads with 180 ones and that cured that problem. All done under warranty though. Then Tilcon bought a fleet with Rolls 265’s, that cured the Gardner engine problems!
I remember one S83 tipper developed a knock, I towed it in and then uncoupled it to reverse it into the workshop on tickover. Our TM (■■■■ Bentley) was standing alongside me while one of the lads reversed it in when the engine suddenly ‘coughed’ and a piston gudgeon pin rolled out from under the bumper! ■■■■ looks at me and asks “Is that part expensive?” and I replied that it was nowhere near as expensive to replace as the place it came from originally will be!
Pete.
That was a good read and funny in places Pete. If you had used a different oil would those engines have lasted
much longer out of intrest ? All rebuilt at least once !
Those 265 rolls must have been flying machines compared to the 180 gardner.
Winter 1982 ironically the one I remember most and ironically as a council driver.
The T reg S85 story is interesting it seems to have kept its Foden gearbox.From memory the later early 80’s reg ones at least were retro fitted with 9 speed Fullers.
Bewick won’t like the favourable comments regarding Fodens.
That’s how bleedin cold it was. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sh … e-38584354
Punchy Dan:
^^^^^dont set him off Dean ,I can answer just scrap the lot and get a ■■■■■■■ end of story
I drove two with ■■■■■■■ L10’s for Gough’s Dan, I wasn’t that impressed! They leaked more oil than a Gardner.
I have seen that article when I used to have CM Dean, a good review really. The one in the first pic, WNU 788K, was driven from new by the Late Ken Brandon who was an Arnhem veteran and yes, I rebuilt the engine! We had its ‘sister’ as well, WNU 799K which Maurice Fearn drove but that had a non insulated body. Yes the Rolls did go well but you could only do the work you were given anyway. However these days a 265 Roller would be like driving a Gardner compared to the power they have now.
Just to add that in our Midlands area the vehicles were inspected/serviced at least once a month so not done purely on mileage. They did the longest runs anyway, Kent/Essex/Cornwall/Scotland/London so probably did more miles than other depots. At each service all filters were changed, plus engine oil, and the gearbox and axle breathers were cleaned. Most had automatic chassis lubrication so there wasn’t much to grease and later the rubber suspension did away with a lot of grease points.
The training school worked well, I was the last fitter to go from our quarry but an inspector came down from Harrogate each year to asses the drivers by riding with them. However following one journey with one of our longer serving drivers (who had tried his best to avoid being assessed but got caught eventually!) I dont think we ever saw him again!
Fantastic to see this, my Dad started for Barlow Handling as a forklift fitter, it then became just Barlow, then Barloworld, then bought out by Briggs Equipment.
The Leyland and MAN F2000 were based at the Portobello Road depot in Birtley, this eventually moved to the Follingsby Park estate up the A194, this has also now closed. The transport is now all done from other depots round the country,. Some photos I’ve found over the years below, would love to see any others:
Punchy Dan:
^^^^^dont set him off Dean ,I can answer just scrap the lot and get a ■■■■■■■ end of story
Carryfast:
DEANB:
Truck magazine 1982.
Winter 1982 ironically the one I remember most and ironically as a council driver.
The T reg S85 story is interesting it seems to have kept its Foden gearbox.From memory the later early 80’s reg ones at least were retro fitted with 9 speed Fullers.
Bewick won’t like the favourable comments regarding Fodens.
That’s how bleedin cold it was. bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sh … e-38584354
That was bloody cold CF ! I seem to remember 1963 was another particular bad winter.
windrush:
“Punchy Dan” dont set him off Dean ,I can answer just scrap the lot and get a ■■■■■■■ end of story
I drove two with ■■■■■■■ L10’s for Gough’s Dan, I wasn’t that impressed! They leaked more oil than a Gardner.
I have seen that article when I used to have CM Dean, a good review really. The one in the first pic, WNU 788K, was driven from new by the Late Ken Brandon who was an Arnhem veteran and yes, I rebuilt the engine! We had its ‘sister’ as well, WNU 799K which Maurice Fearn drove but that had a non insulated body. Yes the Rolls did go well but you could only do the work you were given anyway. However these days a 265 Roller would be like driving a Gardner compared to the power they have now.
Just to add that in our Midlands area the vehicles were inspected/serviced at least once a month so not done purely on mileage. They did the longest runs anyway, Kent/Essex/Cornwall/Scotland/London so probably did more miles than other depots. At each service all filters were changed, plus engine oil, and the gearbox and axle breathers were cleaned. Most had automatic chassis lubrication so there wasn’t much to grease and later the rubber suspension did away with a lot of grease points.
The training school worked well, I was the last fitter to go from our quarry but an inspector came down from Harrogate each year to asses the drivers by riding with them. However following one journey with one of our longer serving drivers (who had tried his best to avoid being assessed but got caught eventually!) I dont think we ever saw him again!
Pete.
Sounds like the older driver being assessed must have been bloody awful to have been given the bullet Pete !
Dont remember having a Barlow Handling motor on before. Looks like it may be a fork lift carrier ? Anyone know where they are from ?
Fantastic to see this, my Dad started for Barlow Handling as a forklift fitter, it then became just Barlow, then Barloworld, then bought out by Briggs Equipment.
The Leyland and MAN F2000 were based at the Portobello Road depot in Birtley, this eventually moved to the Follingsby Park estate up the A194, this has also now closed. The transport is now all done from other depots round the country,. Some photos I’ve found over the years below, would love to see any others:
Great post chap and thanks for the pics. Was that your dad driving the Seddon ■■
Will have a word with Paul and see if there are any more pics,but i dont remember seeing any.
windrush:
The training school worked well, I was the last fitter to go from our quarry but an inspector came down from Harrogate each year to asses the drivers by riding with them. However following one journey with one of our longer serving drivers (who had tried his best to avoid being assessed but got caught eventually!) I dont think we ever saw him again!
Pete.
Sounds like the older driver being assessed must have been bloody awful to have been given the bullet Pete !
Sorry Dean, it was the assessor we didn’t see again and not Pete the driver! Pete had been to Sheffield first load and then was headed to London with his second run and the assessor collared him while sheeting up! He asked Pete if he was going to Derby (a normal request as the chap could get a lift back easily) and Pete said ‘yes’. What he didn’t say was that he was going through Derby to the M1, the Foden S80 was nicely warmed up and the assessor (who had travelled from Harrogate that morning) nodded off and woke up when Pete swung onto the M1 slip road at junction 25! He panicked then: “I thought you were going to Derby?” and Pete replied that he hadn’t actually said that he was stopping there! The chap got out and had to call the quarry to get picked up.
Sounds like the older driver being assessed must have been bloody awful to have been given the bullet Pete !
Sorry Dean, it was the assessor we didn’t see again and not Pete the driver! Pete had been to Sheffield first load and then was headed to London with his second run and the assessor collared him while sheeting up! He asked Pete if he was going to Derby (a normal request as the chap could get a lift back easily) and Pete said ‘yes’. What he didn’t say was that he was going through Derby to the M1, the Foden S80 was nicely warmed up and the assessor (who had travelled from Harrogate that morning) nodded off and woke up when Pete swung onto the M1 slip road at junction 25! He panicked then: “I thought you were going to Derby?” and Pete replied that he hadn’t actually said that he was stopping there! The chap got out and had to call the quarry to get picked up.
Pete.
Thanks for clarifying Pete ! Bet the driver was ■■■■■■■ him self when matey woke up !
This Constructor was running with the white DAF that i thought was from the Southampton area that i posted a few days ago.
Seen here just about to go past Poole hospital with one of those very suspect Marina’s behind.
Elliotts Foden seen here just heading up past Poole Hospital after loading that steel coil off Poole docks. Anyone know where
they used to take the steel ? Used to have alot of steel boats arrive in Poole back in the 70s/80’s/90’s.
Hi Dean,
The 301 is one of Brevitt’s based in Willenhall, I cannot remember this motor!
Morrisons acquired Safeway.
The Tarmac Constructor may have been supplied by Brownhills commercials, owned by Tarmac, as there was a couple of mixers based in Ettingshall with EA numbers.
Sounds like the older driver being assessed must have been bloody awful to have been given the bullet Pete !
Sorry Dean, it was the assessor we didn’t see again and not Pete the driver! Pete had been to Sheffield first load and then was headed to London with his second run and the assessor collared him while sheeting up! He asked Pete if he was going to Derby (a normal request as the chap could get a lift back easily) and Pete said ‘yes’. What he didn’t say was that he was going through Derby to the M1, the Foden S80 was nicely warmed up and the assessor (who had travelled from Harrogate that morning) nodded off and woke up when Pete swung onto the M1 slip road at junction 25! He panicked then: “I thought you were going to Derby?” and Pete replied that he hadn’t actually said that he was stopping there! The chap got out and had to call the quarry to get picked up.
Pete.
Thanks for clarifying Pete ! Bet the driver was ■■■■■■■ him self when matey woke up !
I think the assessor wasn’t too impressed when the Foden started up the 1 in 8 crawl out of Ashbourne towards Derby and Pete got the flask out: “I always reckon to sup a mug full when going up here” and apparently got a stare from laddo in the passenger seat! “Well, you did say to drive normally” was Pete’s comment! He was a dry old bugger and liked by everyone, he talked very s-l-o-w but alas cancer did for him before retirement. He also did motorcycle tuition at weekends and rode one of the three pot Triumphs or BSA’s.
DEANB:
Safeway Scania. Did Co op buy Safeway out ?
Hello Dean Morrisons brought safeway out
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Anyone recognise the Seddon Atkinson ■■ Looks like possibly Bennett, Willenhall on door ■■ Anyone recognise where the pic
was taken ■■
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Chessington Tyres Mercedes.
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Kwik Save DAF.
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Anyone recognise the ERF ,possibly Wincanton ■■
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This Constructor was running with the white DAF that i thought was from the Southampton area that i posted a few days ago.
Seen here just about to go past Poole hospital with one of those very suspect Marina’s behind.
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Elliotts Foden seen here just heading up past Poole Hospital after loading that steel coil off Poole docks. Anyone know where
they used to take the steel ? Used to have alot of steel boats arrive in Poole back in the 70s/80’s/90’s.
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Tarmac Constructor,not sure where the pic was taken. I think it was the same area as the red Seddon Atkinson.
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E & M.E Jackson ERF. Dont remember having one on before,anyone know where they were based ■■
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RMC Leyland Bison seen here in Westbourne,Bournemouth. No doubt from the depot on Poole docks.
Those Mini’s look tiny when you see one now.
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Dean thanks for posting these cracking pics today the RMC Leyland Bison looks great i am really enjoying all these gems top work Many Thanks again Daz
Dont remember having a Barlow Handling motor on before. Looks like it may be a fork lift carrier ? Anyone know where they are from ?
Fantastic to see this, my Dad started for Barlow Handling as a forklift fitter, it then became just Barlow, then Barloworld, then bought out by Briggs Equipment.
The Leyland and MAN F2000 were based at the Portobello Road depot in Birtley, this eventually moved to the Follingsby Park estate up the A194, this has also now closed. The transport is now all done from other depots round the country,. Some photos I’ve found over the years below, would love to see any others:
Great post chap and thanks for the pics. Was that your dad driving the Seddon ■■
Will have a word with Paul and see if there are any more pics,but i dont remember seeing any.
No but he did drive the Leyland DAF and MAN for a while when the driver was off, this is a younger me stood in front of the MAN.
They were all disposed of after six years (Tilcon policy) and all had been rebuilt at least once. The 201’s were trouble from new though, they overheated so Gardner supplied us with modified water rails and water pump impellers for us to fit. Then they drank oil so they replaced the 201 cylinder heads with 180 ones and that cured that problem. All done under warranty though. Then Tilcon bought a fleet with Rolls 265’s, that cured the Gardner engine problems! 
■■■■ looks at me and asks “Is that part expensive?” and I replied that it was nowhere near as expensive to replace as the place it came from originally will be! 
