coomsey:
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She stands well but what the hell is going on with the bumper?
This picture is on the front of Wobbe Reitsma’s book, Foden Export Vehicles. It refers to Carnarvon in Western Australia, not Wales! It was taken in the 1960s and shows a Foden 6AXB6/40 model with double-drive and a fibre-glass S21 cab with a sleeper extension and a double roof. It was powered by a Gardner 180 (6LXB). Hope that helps! Robert
lespullan:
L P G Batley, logo on door a bit vague.
Think your right Les LPG Transport from Batley Yorkshire looks like it had been sold on when the picture was taken.
VALKYRIE:
I find looking at some of the old cars and vans etc intresting and brings back alot of memories from
the 1970s.
Her’e’s a few cars from the 1960’s to get your teeth into Dean. 
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TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.PaulGee’s Photo Collection.Identifying The Motorcars And Commercial Vehicles.VALKYRIE.Tuesday,22nd August,2017.
Lefthand line going up: Ford Anglia or Popular;Morris Minor 1000;Ford Consul Mk1;Austin A40 Devon-based Van.
Next line going up: Ford Consul Mk 2;Nuffield Oxford Taxicab (I think);Morris J-Type Van;Austin A30 or A35 Van;possibly Morris-Commercial Van of
Royal Post Office;two lorries! 
;possibly Ford Prefect or Anglia or Popular;definately a Standard Flying 10 or 12
Next line going down from the top:Leyland Titan PD2 or 3 Double Decker Bus - Manchester Transport?;possibly Morris Oxford Farina or Austin Cambridge Farina;Fordson Thames 4D Lorry;Morris Minor or Minor 1000 Van;Rover P4;Morris Oxford;Hillman Minx Phase Model 1949-1956;Ford Squire;Austin 503 Van;Austin K8 Van;Ford Zodiac Mk2;Allard P1,Ford P1 V8.
Righthand line going down from the top:Austin or Morris LD Van;Hillman Husky II or III;unidentified;black possibly Standard Ten or Eight;
Austin Metropolitan;Jaguar S-Type;Ford Prefect;Ford Consul Mk2 or Zephyr Mk2 or Zodiac Mk2 on the side street;Austin A40 Devon;Vauxhall
Velox EIPV;Austin A35;Vauxhall Wyvern,QV photograph below:-
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VALKYRIE
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Cheers VALKYRIE, you certainly know your cars chap !
ERF-NGC-European:
coomsey:
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She stands well but what the hell is going on with the bumper?This picture is on the front of Wobbe Reitsma’s book, Foden Export Vehicles. It refers to Carnarvon in Western Australia, not Wales! It was taken in the 1960s and shows a Foden 6AXB6/40 model with double-drive and a fibre-glass S21 cab with a sleeper extension and a double roof. It was powered by a Gardner 180 (6LXB). Hope that helps! Robert
Totally different spelling Robert,Caernarfon is in Wales,Carnarvon is in Western Australia as you have said,although if spoken quickly,they do sound similar!!
David
Carryfast:
DEANB:
Always surprised these TM’s never sold more,they never seemed as popular as the other english motors of
the time. I always thought they looked very modern for the time.The other thing about old photos is the stuff in the background of some shots. Remember the ford transits
looking like that ! Is that a Vauxhall viva ■■?The TM was arguably unfairly stereotyped by the badge.In addition to Bedford shooting itself in the foot by living down to that already damaged image by offering that type of narrow day cab and even 500 engine spec with the small 71 series Detroit,or at least the silly little V6,also adding to that issue.It’s probably more a case of it still being good enough to be popular despite all that.
The Vauxhall looks like it might be a Viva HC/Firenza ? .
As for the Mk1 Transit they seemed to look better to me with the extended diesel/V6 petrol type nose/grille.
Thanks for your input “Carryfast”
moomooland:
0Seddon Atkinson 400 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No AHG 820R Fleet No 90 ‘Silver Jubilee’ was driven from new by Bill Tyson.
Registered new on the 1st of June 1977 it was powered by a Gardner 240 eight cylinder engine and was painted in a special livery to commemorate the Queen’s Silver Jubilee which took place in 1977.
Cheers Paul for the information. Its impressive how Tom kept all the massive amount of data for each
vehicle !
moomooland:
DEANB:
Is this a Riding motor Paul ■■?Yes it sure is Dean here’s another shot of the accident.
0W & J Riding Atkinson Borderer tractor unit Reg No TTB 90M hauling a tandem axle forty foot trailer carrying a full load of steel H section girders came to grief while negotiating the roundabout at the eastern end of the A59 Skipton by-pass.Fortunately no one was hurt in the accident but it did cause some major traffic disruption during the recovery operations which took place later in the day.
Thanks again Paul, like you say at least no one was hurt !
lespullan:
ramone:
Some pics.1
Anyone recognise the Volvo F86 tanker.
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The F86 tanker looks a bit like a Smith and Robinson motor , same colour anyway
L P G Batley, logo on door a bit vague.
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Well spotted “lespullan” 
Bewick:
DEANB:
Atkins at Poole docks.7
2
1
Atkins Cherbourg.
6
5
4
3
bet this one’s in there somewhere, ONU489J.
Nice pic Tony !
Bewick:
Burnholme transport from Penrith. Looked a tidy outfit.1
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Burnholme were mainly involved in hauling steel for BSC but they had a reputation for breaking down regularly which earned them not undeserved such nicknames as " Hard Shoulder haulage" and “Fawlty Towers” another “crack” over the CB during their time was “Which one of you has the tools” and the shot of that F86 is quite clearly taken when it is parked on the hard shoulder ! many of their F86’s were bought directly off my old long gone pal Harry Fearon ( H. & M E Fearon) and they were well worked by Harry as he ran quite an intensive double shift system running containers to and from Ectona Fibres in W. ■■■■■■■ to the Container ports such as Immingham. I recall having a disagreement with a retired Burnholme driver ( actually the father-in-law of one of my ex drivers) on an earlier post a while ago, he was defending the reputation that Burnholme had and I told him it was no way to operate and we couldn’t have got away with unreliable service such as that so it was nothing to be proud of and he didn’t like my comments one bit ! Cheers Bewick.
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Your not trying to upset me Dennis are you !
Bewick:
moomooland:
240 Gardner:
An Atki line-up that Tom Riding would approve of!He sure would Chris
0Click on picture for wide screen view.Brings a tear to the eye that shot, we’ll never see the like of that again ! Tom was surely a “Giant” among hauliers of his generation !
bob-lad:
hello dean many thanks to you paul and mark you made my day with the bowies erf kma 640l with jimmy Stockton at the wheel this motor was bought from Gordon plants auction along with sister 639 this was the first motor to have the 18 inch section welded at the front and a b series cab fitted that I picked up from cab services , bowies were one of the first in the area to operate tautliners first from cartwrights then boalloy cheers rob
Glad you like the pics Rob if you have any pop them on !
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Just a bit of background info Dean as there is usually a tale to be told recalling times past ! Cheers Dennis.
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smallcoal:
DEANB:
Heres a nice shot for you Paul !0
The aec is rossers pontlliw ,his wagons were all old aec he would scrap one if it died then use the parts of it his drivers had to be in trostre by 3am in the morning to be first loaded at 6 for Swansea docks they were brothers cheers John
Thanks for the comments John !
Bewick:
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Cant blame sat nav Dennis, Did he have her lit up !!
smallcoal:
Rossers pontlliw ,entress and a bsc, keep up the good work dean cheers John
Great pics John,keep em coming !
Lawrence Dunbar:
DEANB:
One for “240 Gardner”0
Thats a great photo “DEANB” And a very good sheeting & roping job too, I wonder if it started out as an short wheel base tipper then converted into this fine looking tractor unit, Regards Larry.
A rare looking motor Larry !
steelboyf10:
Great update again…Sis this one of them there Foden Atkinsons
Cheers “steelboyf10” i take it you are talking about the bumper !
moomooland:
0Originally MVD 432L was a W & J Riding Atkinson Borderer 4X2 tractor unit.
1 Photograph courtesy of Geoff Milne.
Click HERE for the complete in-depth history of MVD 432L
Cheers Paul, for the info and pic !
ramone:
moomooland:
0Originally MVD 432L was a W & J Riding Atkinson Borderer 4X2 tractor unit.
1 Photograph courtesy of Geoff Milne.
Click HERE for the complete in-depth history of MVD 432LIs that a Gardner badge on the Killingbeck photo ?
ERF-NGC-European:
Whether you like the M20 truck photos on ebay website or not, I will say this for it: it has a fantastic variety of pics on it and the selection changes every week. This week has a particularly rich crop of golden oldies. Here’s a photo reminding of those moments when you had to get your hands dirty! Robert0
ramone:
lespullan:
ramone:
DEANB:
Some pics.I find looking at some of the old cars and vans etc intresting and brings back alot of memories from
the 1970s.ACL Seddon Atkinson.
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Lancaster Bros cattle box F86 Volvo.
8
General foods F86
7
Dowty DAF 2800
6
C.F.Abraham Seddon
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Bowies tidy ERF
4
Foden’s own low loader from Sandbach.
3
Ready mix concrete Albion.
2
Styles ERF .Is that trailer a blower ■■? Cant see a tipping ram unless its one of those strange ones
where the rams were underneath the body ■■1
Anyone recognise the Volvo F86 tanker.
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The F86 tanker looks a bit like a Smith and Robinson motor , same colour anyway
L P G Batley, logo on door a bit vague.
I forgot about them Les , its a good job you`re here to keep me on the straight and narrow
moomooland:
ramone:
Is that a Gardner badge on the Killingbeck photo ?John Killingbeck replaced the ■■■■■■■ engine with an uprated Gardner 180 which enabled him to get it plated at 32 tons.
After the rebuild the former Atkinson Borderer 4x2 was called an ‘Atkinson Buccaneer’, the name being chosen by life long Atkinson fan the late Michael Deuchars of Edinburgh who sadly passed away on the 17th of July 2013.
If you click HERE you can read the complete in-depth history of MVD 432L.
Good stuff Paul !
coomsey:
DEANB:
“Coomsey” a Foden tipper !0
Cheers Dean ,a minky. Bet the loading shovel drivers would dodge that trailer give half a chance though, they’d be no rust on the drivers shovel I’m sure
Cheers “coomsey”
ERF-NGC-European:
coomsey:
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She stands well but what the hell is going on with the bumper?This picture is on the front of Wobbe Reitsma’s book, Foden Export Vehicles. It refers to Carnarvon in Western Australia, not Wales! It was taken in the 1960s and shows a Foden 6AXB6/40 model with double-drive and a fibre-glass S21 cab with a sleeper extension and a double roof. It was powered by a Gardner 180 (6LXB). Hope that helps! Robert
Well spotted Robert, as you know i put a wrong un in every now and then to make sure everyone is
paying attention ! You being an ex teacher spotted it ! Yeah right i f—ked up !
Mind you it was a nice pic !
moomooland:
lespullan:
L P G Batley, logo on door a bit vague.1 Think your right Les LPG Transport from Batley Yorkshire looks like it had been sold on when the picture was taken.
0Photograph courtesy of Leslie Wilson.
5thwheel:
ERF-NGC-European:
coomsey:
0
She stands well but what the hell is going on with the bumper?This picture is on the front of Wobbe Reitsma’s book, Foden Export Vehicles. It refers to Carnarvon in Western Australia, not Wales! It was taken in the 1960s and shows a Foden 6AXB6/40 model with double-drive and a fibre-glass S21 cab with a sleeper extension and a double roof. It was powered by a Gardner 180 (6LXB). Hope that helps! Robert
Totally different spelling Robert,Caernarfon is in Wales,Carnarvon is in Western Australia as you have said,although if spoken quickly,they do sound similar!!
David
Some pics.
Bassetts Borderer.
Anyone recognise the Mercedes ■■
Seddon Atkinson of Priestner’s.
Marglass Roman.
Anyone recognise the Berliet ■■?
Berger paints DAF being over taken by National Carriers Fiat.
Another one of Lunts Fodens, we have had a few of theres.
Lancashire dairies ERF
Danzas draw-bar DAF
Bulk powder Atkinson,cant make the name out on the door ■■?
ERF-NGC-European:
coomsey:
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She stands well but what the hell is going on with the bumper?This picture is on the front of Wobbe Reitsma’s book, Foden Export Vehicles. It refers to Carnarvon in Western Australia, not Wales! It was taken in the 1960s and shows a Foden 6AXB6/40 model with double-drive and a fibre-glass S21 cab with a sleeper extension and a double roof. It was powered by a Gardner 180 (6LXB). Hope that helps! Robert
Thanks Robert the bumper makes a bit of sense now.
DEANB:
VALKYRIE:
I find looking at some of the old cars and vans etc intresting and brings back alot of memories from
the 1970s.Her’e’s a few cars from the 1960’s to get your teeth into Dean.
[attachment=1]Traffic.jpgTruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.PaulGee’s Photo Collection.Identifying The Motorcars And Commercial Vehicles.VALKYRIE.Tuesday,22nd August,2017.
Lefthand line going up: Ford Anglia or Popular;Morris Minor 1000;Ford Consul Mk1;Austin A40 Devon-based Van.
Next line going up: Ford Consul Mk 2;Nuffield Oxford Taxicab (I think);Morris J-Type Van;Austin A30 or A35 Van;possibly Morris-Commercial Van of
Royal Post Office;two lorries!Next line going down from the top:Leyland Titan PD2 or 3 Double Decker Bus - Manchester Transport?;possibly Morris Oxford Farina or Austin Cambridge Farina;Fordson Thames 4D Lorry;Morris Minor or Minor 1000 Van;Rover P4;Morris Oxford;Hillman Minx Phase Model 1949-1956;Ford Squire;Austin 503 Van;Austin K8 Van;Ford Zodiac Mk2;Allard P1,Ford P1 V8.
Righthand line going down from the top:Austin or Morris LD Van;Hillman Husky II or III;unidentified;black possibly Standard Ten or Eight;
Austin Metropolitan;Jaguar S-Type;Ford Prefect;Ford Consul Mk2 or Zephyr Mk2 or Zodiac Mk2 on the side street;Austin A40 Devon;Vauxhall
Velox EIPV;Austin A35;Vauxhall Wyvern,QV photograph below:-[attachment=0]Identifing motor vehicles in the traffic in the early 1960s.TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Photo Collection.Page 48.Moomooland photograph…jpg[/attachment]
VALKYRIE
Cheers VALKYRIE, you certainly know your cars chap !
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The picture containing the above vehicles is Whitechapel in Liverpool, See my post on page 48. Cheers, Ray.
DEANB:
Some pics.Bassetts Borderer.
ermmmm Mk.2 Silver Knight 
But cracking photos, thank you!!!
Originally local farmers Gerald Priestner’s father formed the business in the 1950’s with just one four wheeler lorry which he had working out of the Shell Chemicals plant at Carrington.
This was to be there main customer for many years as Shell paid excellent rates to carriers, with the other main haulier a the time being Brooklands Transport Services known as BTS, the all green liveried Scania fleet, who are still in business today.
In 1966 Priestner’s acquired control of J. and G. Evans Ltd., whose ten 7-ton vans are engaged mainly on local collection and delivery operations from the large warehouse at the Priestner depot at Carrington, near Urmston, Manchester.
The long-distance Priestner artics, many of them trunking to the London area, brought back full return loads which were stored and broken down for local delivery by the Evans fleet.
In the 1970s and 1980s Priestner’s created an owner driver scheme whereby the company would provide a brand new vehicle,(dependent on availability),they would provide fuel and repairs, at a cost, and paid per mile, loaded and a lesser rate when running empty.
The vehicle in the picture below belonged to an owner driver by the name of Billy Foster, (note the WF logo on the grill).
Priestner’s had about 10 owner drivers but it all went pear shaped when the company closed down in 1985/86.
Berger Paints now there’s a blast from the past!
Their place was opposite West Pennine Scania on Stakehill Industrial Estate Middleton Manchester, the picture of the Berger Volvo F10 below was taken in the entrance of that depot.
When Berger moved out in 1982 it became a Tesco/Wincanton non perishable depot until 2008 when they moved out after which time it became a small B&Q flowers & plants distribution depot.
Well done Dean, Paul and Mark this thread is almost up to 54,000 views and only been going for three months, at the time of writing.
moomooland:
1Berger Paints now there’s a blast from the past!
Their place was opposite West Pennine Scania on Stakehill Industrial Estate Middleton Manchester, the picture of the Berger Volvo F10 below was taken in the entrance of that depot.
When Berger moved out in 1982 it became a Tesco/Wincanton non perishable depot until 2008 when they moved out after which time it became a small B&Q flowers & plants distribution depot.
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Lewis Berger paints, Thats a blast from the past, I remember in the 50s painting a 4 wheeler Albion Chiefton the had been damadged when I worked for Baxters Road Services Newcastle on Tyne, Young Jonny played golf with their rep & got some free paint off him, I was canny stuff IMO, Dried pretty quick & had a durable finish to it, Regards Larry.
coomsey:
ERF-NGC-European:
coomsey:
0
She stands well but what the hell is going on with the bumper?This picture is on the front of Wobbe Reitsma’s book, Foden Export Vehicles. It refers to Carnarvon in Western Australia, not Wales! It was taken in the 1960s and shows a Foden 6AXB6/40 model with double-drive and a fibre-glass S21 cab with a sleeper extension and a double roof. It was powered by a Gardner 180 (6LXB). Hope that helps! Robert
Thanks Robert the bumper makes a bit of sense now.
Ray Smyth:
VALKYRIE:
I find looking at some of the old cars and vans etc intresting and brings back alot of memories from
the 1970s.Her’e’s a few cars from the 1960’s to get your teeth into Dean.
[attachment=1]Traffic.jpgTruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.PaulGee’s Photo Collection.Identifying The Motorcars And Commercial Vehicles.VALKYRIE.Tuesday,22nd August,2017.
Lefthand line going up: Ford Anglia or Popular;Morris Minor 1000;Ford Consul Mk1;Austin A40 Devon-based Van.
Next line going up: Ford Consul Mk 2;Nuffield Oxford Taxicab (I think);Morris J-Type Van;Austin A30 or A35 Van;possibly Morris-Commercial Van of
Royal Post Office;two lorries!Next line going down from the top:Leyland Titan PD2 or 3 Double Decker Bus - Manchester Transport?;possibly Morris Oxford Farina or Austin Cambridge Farina;Fordson Thames 4D Lorry;Morris Minor or Minor 1000 Van;Rover P4;Morris Oxford;Hillman Minx Phase Model 1949-1956;Ford Squire;Austin 503 Van;Austin K8 Van;Ford Zodiac Mk2;Allard P1,Ford P1 V8.
Righthand line going down from the top:Austin or Morris LD Van;Hillman Husky II or III;unidentified;black possibly Standard Ten or Eight;
Austin Metropolitan;Jaguar S-Type;Ford Prefect;Ford Consul Mk2 or Zephyr Mk2 or Zodiac Mk2 on the side street;Austin A40 Devon;Vauxhall
Velox EIPV;Austin A35;Vauxhall Wyvern,QV photograph below:-[attachment=0]Identifing motor vehicles in the traffic in the early 1960s.TruckNetUK.Old Time Lorries.Paul Gee’s Photo Collection.Page 48.Moomooland photograph…jpg[/attachment]
VALKYRIE
Cheers VALKYRIE, you certainly know your cars chap !
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The picture containing the above vehicles is Whitechapel in Liverpool, See my post on page 48. Cheers, Ray.
[/quote]
Thanks for your comment and confirming where pic was taken Ray !
240 Gardner:
DEANB:
Some pics.Bassetts Borderer.
ermmmm Mk.2 Silver Knight
But cracking photos, thank you!!!
“240 Gardner” i do it on purpose just to make sure you are paying attention chap !
moomooland:
1Originally local farmers Gerald Priestner’s father formed the business in the 1950’s with just one four wheeler lorry which he had working out of the Shell Chemicals plant at Carrington.This was to be there main customer for many years as Shell paid excellent rates to carriers, with the other main haulier a the time being Brooklands Transport Services known as BTS, the all green liveried Scania fleet, who are still in business today.
In 1966 Priestner’s acquired control of J. and G. Evans Ltd., whose ten 7-ton vans are engaged mainly on local collection and delivery operations from the large warehouse at the Priestner depot at Carrington, near Urmston, Manchester.
The long-distance Priestner artics, many of them trunking to the London area, brought back full return loads which were stored and broken down for local delivery by the Evans fleet.In the 1970s and 1980s Priestner’s created an owner driver scheme whereby the company would provide a brand new vehicle,(dependent on availability),they would provide fuel and repairs, at a cost, and paid per mile, loaded and a lesser rate when running empty.
The vehicle in the picture below belonged to an owner driver by the name of Billy Foster, (note the WF logo on the grill).
Priestner’s had about 10 owner drivers but it all went pear shaped when the company closed down in 1985/86.
0Photograph courtesy of Mike Tebbut.
Great info and pic as always Paul,thanks alot.
moomooland:
1Berger Paints now there’s a blast from the past!
Their place was opposite West Pennine Scania on Stakehill Industrial Estate Middleton Manchester, the picture of the Berger Volvo F10 below was taken in the entrance of that depot.
When Berger moved out in 1982 it became a Tesco/Wincanton non perishable depot until 2008 when they moved out after which time it became a small B&Q flowers & plants distribution depot.
0
Thanks again Paul, nice pic of the F10 !
moomooland:
Well done Dean, Paul and Mark this thread is almost up to 54,000 views and only been going for three months, at the time of writing.
Thanks Paul for your comments,and for all of your hard work on this thread,top man !
Lawrence Dunbar:
moomooland:
1Berger Paints now there’s a blast from the past!
Their place was opposite West Pennine Scania on Stakehill Industrial Estate Middleton Manchester, the picture of the Berger Volvo F10 below was taken in the entrance of that depot.
When Berger moved out in 1982 it became a Tesco/Wincanton non perishable depot until 2008 when they moved out after which time it became a small B&Q flowers & plants distribution depot.
0Lewis Berger paints, Thats a blast from the past, I remember in the 50s painting a 4 wheeler Albion Chiefton the had been damadged when I worked for Baxters Road Services Newcastle on Tyne, Young Jonny played golf with their rep & got some free paint off him, I was canny stuff IMO, Dried pretty quick & had a durable finish to it, Regards Larry.
Thanks for your input Larry !
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Some pics.
I Woodward & Sons ERF
Ruddles,Seddon Atkinson 400
Anyone recognise the ERF ■■?
ESM Crusader.
Anyone recognise the F12 ■■?
Anyone recognise the Mercedes ■■?
KFH Bulk haulage Saviem,with a Wild Group Borderer behind.
British Gypsum F86
Trafford Park cold storage ERF
Anyone recognise the ERF bulk powder tanker ■■?
DEANB:
Anyone recognise the ERF bulk powder tanker ■■?0
R H Stevens from Macclesfield
240 Gardner:
DEANB:
Anyone recognise the ERF bulk powder tanker ■■?0
R H Stevens from Macclesfield
Could it be Rof the wheel ?