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Good one DEANB, great photo, can’t make out the reg or fleet no. Don’t know if your eyes are better than mine?
revman:
hi Dean great pics again,re day cab Volvos Ye they were quite rare here’s a couple I drove at BSC Rotherham Bulmers cider also ran them out of Hereford,the sleeper cab model couldn’t couple legally to our 40foot trailers but I suspect most operators disregarded that,cheer Alan
Nice pics Alan ! 
i understand that a fair few manufacturers had that problem with Leyland offering the smaller Marathon sleeper to get around the problem !
Heres a Bulmers F10 non sleeper.
Thanks for the Tuffnells pics !
5thwheel:
pete smith:
Paul, Could this be the same motor?Not unless the chassis has been messed about with,the wrecker looks to be a tipper chassis Pete.David
pete smith:
It might have been stretched, thinking if it had been the prototype it would be ok to use as a main dealer recovery vehicle? Where is that ROF when you need him?!
Ray Smyth:
Hi Paul, Great photos of Tuffnells lorries, and also the Roy Whittaker Scanias. Whittakers had a depot at Worthington Way in Wigan from about 1985, the depot was new to Robert Baillie from 1975. Do you have any pictures of Whittakers or Robert Baillie lorries atthe Wigan site ?. Sainsburys and Macdonalds have occupied the site since 1995. Regards, Ray Smyth.
What colour were Whittakers Ray ■■ 
240 Gardner:
moomooland:
Here’s a shot of another Econofreight Atki Chris, again with the Big A removed.
A few companies always removed the badges from the front of their lorries another that springs to mind was Bass Brewery below…Thanks Paul,Not to mention Whitbread and Marley Tiles…
“240 Gardner” Heres one of Marley Tiles.
240 Gardner:
DEANB:
Foley’s Scania.I must admit, I don’t remember Foley running Scanias, only Mercedes and some secondhand Atkinsons for local work
Apart from other services they may have operated, B+I Line shared the Pandoro service into Dublin on a 50/50 basis, starting in 1976 - in those far off, pre-open borders era, I was led to understand that their participation was the price of P&O’s access to the port of Dublin. At that time, B+I was a “semi-state corporation” i.e. state owned, but with a remit to operate on a commercial basis and so strive for profit.
B+I operated only a trailer fleet, with no tractors of their own (at least in the U.K.) but. Foley was the nearest thing to their own fleet. I don’t know if it was true, but the tale in the late 1970s was that Mr Foley, or perhaps a relation, was the Transport Minister in Eire, and thus connected with B+I, if only loosely.
One of the Borderers bought secondhand from Pandoro for local work from Fleetwood and Liverpool:
Thanks for your intresting comments Chris ! Bit of a difference if you are a driver between the Merc and Atki !
Heres one of Pembroke Transport’s Seddon Atkinson’s pulling a B&I trailer.
gazsa401:
240 Gardner:
moomooland:
Here’s a shot of another Econofreight Atki Chris, again with the Big A removed.
A few companies always removed the badges from the front of their lorries another that springs to mind was Bass Brewery below…Thanks Paul
Not to mention Whitbread and Marley Tiles…Has anyone mentioned Denby from Lincoln and Bowmur from Cannock also
B S Eaton they ran orange ERFs I think they were also from Cannock
Used to see them regularly on the A5 ,Cheers Gary
Thanks for those names Gary ! Heres a bit about Denby’s.
Click on pages twice to read.
moomooland:
smallcoal:
Hi Paul,one of ridings motors looking a bit sorrySeddon Atkinson 401 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No C50 OBV Fleet No 72 ‘Vulcan’ was powered by a Gardner 6LYT 16 litre 320 engine.
Registered new on the 1st of June 1986 at a cost of £27,468 plus vat it was driven from new by Alan Bretherton.
The picture above shows it at Longridge after being recovered following an accident coming out of Edinburgh when it went off the road into a ditch.
The damage included a badly bent chassis resulting in the vehicle being totally written off and scrapped.
Fortunately the Gardner 6LYT 320 engine was saved and later transferred into Seddon Atkinson 401 Series tractor unit Reg No D400 SRN.
Hello John,thanks for posting the pic. As usual Paul thanks for your reply.
Boatchaser:
DEANB:
Foley’s Scania.Back in the day early 80,s B+ I trailers bought are product from Castlebar ( S.Ireland ) to Warrington for Baxter Healthcare we were on the Grange Ind Est next to the funny shaped building ( Barclays Bank ) and are other neighbour was Rowntree Mac and the next warehouse to use was Ex-import from Cardiff ( I think ) who remembers them white F 88/89,S . Foley,s would be in and out a least 3 times a day with full loads, just thinking about Foleys I,m sure they also had some Merc in plain Orange, not sure if that was before they got painted in the green or different part of the company
Thanks for your comments “Boatchaser”
Kempston:
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Good one DEANB, great photo, can’t make out the reg or fleet no. Don’t know if your eyes are better than mine?
Sorry i cant make it out chap. Someone may be able to make it out.
BP DAF tanker.
Vallance DAF
Evans Transport.
I think this company are a credit to the road haulage industry. I have never seen a rough looking
truck of theres. Saw 2 yesterday pulling logs which were immaculate.
Civil & Marine Scania.
Christian Salveson DAF
Waitrose Volvo
Maddern Mercedes.
Anyone recognise the smart DAF ■■?
Texaco ERF
Tarmac Foden.
One for “moomooland” and “revman”
Tuffnells Volvo.
pete smith:
moomooland:
Watts Truck Centre in Gloucester.Believe this particular Guy Big J was a 44 tonne prototype powered by a ■■■■■■■ 290
Photograph courtesy of Derrick PettyPaul,
Could this be the same motor?
revman:
Paul,
Could this be the same motor?
I doubt it as the wheelbase is much longer although you can never be sure as back in the day companies were always messing with motors either stretching them or cutting them down into tractor units.
Hi Dean,After Pembroke Transport finished ADE 725V went to live with Mansel Davies…Also the unidentified Daf belongs to Jim Evans…Cheers Bubbs,
After coming off the road they were knocking about for years in depots. New on the 2nd of October 1997 this one was taken off the road in August 2005 and converted into a shunter.
After suffering accident damage in the depot it was written off and scrapped in January 2012
moomooland:
smallcoal:
Hi Paul,one of ridings motors looking a bit sorrySeddon Atkinson 401 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No C50 OBV Fleet No 72 ‘Vulcan’ was powered by a Gardner 6LYT 16 litre 320 engine.
Registered new on the 1st of June 1986 at a cost of £27,468 plus vat it was driven from new by Alan Bretherton.
The picture above shows it at Longridge after being recovered following an accident coming out of Edinburgh when it went off the road into a ditch.
The damage included a badly bent chassis resulting in the vehicle being totally written off and scrapped.
Fortunately the Gardner 6LYT 320 engine was saved and later transferred into Seddon Atkinson 401 Series tractor unit Reg No D400 SRN.
How did the 320 Gardners perform in the Riding fleet were they well regarded ?
moomooland:
revman:
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Paul,
Could this be the same motor?0I doubt it as the wheelbase is much longer although you can never be sure as back in the day companies were always messing with motors either stretching them or cutting them down into tractor units.
the wrecker doesn’t have heavy duty axles either
DEANB:
Thanks for your intresting comments Chris ! Bit of a difference if you are a driver between the Merc and Atki !
Absolutely - wouldn’t want to be saddled with the Merc 
ramone:
moomooland:
smallcoal:
Hi Paul,one of ridings motors looking a bit sorrySeddon Atkinson 401 Series 4x2 tractor unit Reg No C50 OBV Fleet No 72 ‘Vulcan’ was powered by a Gardner 6LYT 16 litre 320 engine.
Registered new on the 1st of June 1986 at a cost of £27,468 plus vat it was driven from new by Alan Bretherton.
The picture above shows it at Longridge after being recovered following an accident coming out of Edinburgh when it went off the road into a ditch.
The damage included a badly bent chassis resulting in the vehicle being totally written off and scrapped.
Fortunately the Gardner 6LYT 320 engine was saved and later transferred into Seddon Atkinson 401 Series tractor unit Reg No D400 SRN.How did the 320 Gardners perform in the Riding fleet were they well regarded ?
We had 4 ERF “E” Series fitted with Gardner 6LYTS
3 of them were trouble free and the other was a lemon
Also we had 2 Seddon Atkinson 401s with the 6LYTS again 1 was trouble free and the other 1 troublesome but not as unreliable as the ERF
Civil & Marine ran several Scania 124L 400 tractor units.
Photograph courtesy of Chris Farnah R561 YNO pictured here in 2003 after being converted into a six wheeler wrecker
Photograph courtesy of Andy Bardsley
oiltreader:
French reg Denby wagon Dean courtesy of Len Rogers. Oily
Nice pic Oily !
revman:
Thanks for posting the pics !
bubbleman:
Hi Dean,After Pembroke Transport finished ADE 725V went to live with Mansel Davies…Also the unidentified Daf belongs to Jim Evans…Cheers Bubbs,
Cheers Bubbs, that DAF is a tidy looking motor !
moomooland:
A number of those old FL10 tractor units and prime movers were painted yellow and converted into yard shunters.
After coming off the road they were knocking about for years in depots.
New on the 2nd of October 1997 this one was taken off the road in August 2005 and converted into a shunter.
After suffering accident damage in the depot it was written off and scrapped in January 2012
Nice pics Paul .Made sense to use them old Volvos as shunters.
240 Gardner:
DEANB:
Thanks for your intresting comments Chris ! Bit of a difference if you are a driver between the Merc and Atki !Absolutely - wouldn’t want to be saddled with the Merc
I know some of those Mercs were gutless and i dont know what engine that one had in it, but you cant
deny they were very comfortable motors to drive Chris !
gazsa401:
smallcoal:
How did the 320 Gardners perform in the Riding fleet were they well regarded ?We had 4 ERF “E” Series fitted with Gardner 6LYTS
3 of them were trouble free and the other was a lemon
Also we had 2 Seddon Atkinson 401s with the 6LYTS again 1 was trouble free and the other 1 troublesome but not as unreliable as the ERF
Thanks for your comments John and Gary.
moomooland:
Civil & Marine ran several Scania 124L 400 tractor units.
This particular one, Reg No R561 YNO, became a wrecker and was stretched with a third axle added.
R561 YNO pictured here in 2003 after being converted into a six wheeler wrecker
Photograph courtesy of Andy Bardsley[/url]
Cheers Paul, its amazing how many trucks are coverted for a second life.
5thwheel:
pete smith:
Paul, Could this be the same motor?Not unless the chassis has been messed about with,the wrecker looks to be a tipper chassis Pete.David
pete smith:
It might have been stretched, thinking if it had been the prototype it would be ok to use as a main dealer recovery vehicle? Where is that ROF when you need him?!
I’m here, Pete. I would think that the thing is almost certainly built on a tipper chassis, although it would probably have been wise to re-engine it. I’m ashamed to reveal that I have little real knowledge of Big Js other than a) I was- and still am, given that the memory cell holds up-pretty clued up about the 205 ■■■■■■■ version that was supplied to BRS and b) I know that there were 240 Gardner versions built at Fallings Park despite what the over-pensioned road transport magnate from ■■■■■■■ would have.
bubbleman:
Hi Dean,After Pembroke Transport finished ADE 725V went to live with Mansel Davies…Also the unidentified Daf belongs to Jim Evans…Cheers Bubbs,
Hello DEAN and Bubbs ,…Pembroke Transport had 2 Sedd Atks with very similar registrations …wonder where the other ended up …Dean Did Paul ever take shots at Glasbury on Wye nr Brecon …have come across photos at that location …very similar quality to his ■■ !! …Geraint