PAUL GEE's PHOTO COLLECTION (Part 1)

[jshepguis]

Dean B thanks you just keep coming up with the goods SAJ 488R this would be 240 Gardner powered. Possibility by this time that unit could have been based at Newport depot, if not then would be on a changeover from Teesside usually at Derby. Load at back looks a little bit tagged on! Not going to win any brownie points from the ■■■■■■■■ Sheeter with that!
Front of load looks like pallets of plastics out of ICI on teesside as on 40 foot trailers in those days could only get 18 pallets on then two on top over trailer wheels. I do remember a common load to South Wales was Addis plastics not too sure of location exactly ( Pete 359 will probably know) you had to go under a low bridge so if loading you had to remember to break down top two pallets to half height to clear bridge!

[bewick]

jshepguis:
Dean B thanks you just keep coming up with the goods SAJ 488R this would be 240 Gardner powered. Possibility by this time that unit could have been based at Newport depot, if not then would be on a changeover from Teesside usually at Derby. Load at back looks a little bit tagged on! Not going to win any brownie points from the ■■■■■■■■ Sheeter with that!
Front of load looks like pallets of plastics out of ICI on teesside as on 40 foot trailers in those days could only get 18 pallets on then two on top over trailer wheels. I do remember a common load to South Wales was Addis plastics not too sure of location exactly ( Pete 359 will probably know) you had to go under a low bridge so if loading you had to remember to break down top two pallets to half height to clear bridge!

No comment on the Sheeting & Roping —it’s Sunday ! But what I am interested in is the drive axle on that SA, it definitely isn’t by the look of the hubs that lousy Group axle Seddon insisted on fitting on motors with a bigger engine than a 180LXB ! So would it have been an Eaton axle maybe ? Cheers Bewick.

[pete_smith]

Stanfield:
I bet someone slackened the ropes off for a laugh while he was on a break its couldn’t have been his night loaders fault they were experts.

John,
It looks like the its had a “■■■■■■■ the sheet seems ripped to me?

[pete_smith]

This pic of Bewicks motor must have been taken later than the rest as you can see the North Bound services at Ross Spur have been built, what year would you make this Dennis?

[deanb]

Punchy Dan:
The Bowmans Bedford tm is also on the front of a tm sales brochure Iirc ?

Thanks for your input Dan !

ERF-NGC-European:
Yet another satisfying daily ‘fix’ of Paul Gee images from Dean! Robert

Thanks Robert, Paul certainly took some great pics.

Stanfield:
Thanks to Dean and Paul for the John Biesty photos very much appreciated Cheers like others have mentioned earlier in the thread its great to see company’s you have worked for in the years past.

Thanks Stanfield ,plenty more tippers to come !

jshepguis:

moomooland:
Some cracking pictures on here.

Sat here with bated breath wondering whats coming next and will i actually feature in any of the up and coming pictures

Brilliant stuff here’s my favorite so far.

Really like this one also moomooland and looking at registration GAJ 430N was wondering if this was based out of ICI Wilton or Billingham on teesside as AJ was a North Yorkshire ( Northallerton) prefix. Cannot remember if they did any trunks or changeovers to South Wales.

Glad you are enjoying the pics “jshepguis” and thanks for your comments !

I think that Seddon was the last of the Sanderson motors in this first batch of photos.

Bewick:

jshepguis:
Dean B thanks you just keep coming up with the goods SAJ 488R this would be 240 Gardner powered. Possibility by this time that unit could have been based at Newport depot, if not then would be on a changeover from Teesside usually at Derby. Load at back looks a little bit tagged on! Not going to win any brownie points from the ■■■■■■■■ Sheeter with that!
Front of load looks like pallets of plastics out of ICI on teesside as on 40 foot trailers in those days could only get 18 pallets on then two on top over trailer wheels. I do remember a common load to South Wales was Addis plastics not too sure of location exactly ( Pete 359 will probably know) you had to go under a low bridge so if loading you had to remember to break down top two pallets to half height to clear bridge!

No comment on the Sheeting & Roping —it’s Sunday ! But what I am interested in is the drive axle on that SA, it definitely isn’t by the look of the hubs that lousy Group axle Seddon insisted on fitting on motors with a bigger engine than a 180LXB ! So would it have been an Eaton axle maybe ? Cheers Bewick.

Thanks for your comments Dennis, hopefully someone will know about the drive axle ?

pete smith:
This pic of Bewicks motor must have been taken later than the rest as you can see the North Bound services at Ross Spur have been built, what year would you make this Dennis?

Thanks for your input Pete !

I think all the colour ones are taken in Southampton ?

Hovis ERF, used to deliver to there huge mill on the docks as a kid in the 70s.

Tidy DAF

O’Brien 88

Tom Roberts ERF, looks like it has had a hard life.

Jays of Atherton. The roof of the Foden is unusual ■■? I wondered if it was somesort of roof-rack ■■?

John G Russell F88, no address on door so dont know if a local Southampton haulier ?

Big transon

Stevens 88, with transit behind.

French Unic.

Meachers Seddon.

[deanb]

MAN

A couple of Borderers ,looks like different companies.

Plain Foden tipper.

Thyssen ERF

F86 8 wheeler

Guy Big J

ERF not alot on some of these trucks to identify the haulier.

F86 tanker

Another 86 tanker,dont know if the same company as above ?

Leyland ,looks like John James.

[moomooland]

Great selection of pictures as usual.
Jays of Atherton ran a few of these Foden S40 tractor units with the unusual roof.
Jays closed down in 2001.
There’s a picture of another of their S40’s Reg No KCK 240N heading up the M1 here on Flickr

[deanb]

Some adverts.Click on adverts twice to read.

[deanb]

rward:
I think that airflow wagon and drag was driven by Sid bishop from Caerphilly for airflow Blackwood and the catnic scania with that trailor topped would have been something wrong with it as we only topped if there was a problem these pictures of Paul gees are brilliant regards rowly

Rowly, heres another one of Airflows draw-bar.

[oiltreader]

Hi DEANB John G Russell of Grangemouth.
Oily

[5thwheel]

moomooland:
0Great selection of pictures as usual.
Jays of Atherton ran a few of these Foden S40 tractor units with the unusual roof.
Jays closed down in 2001.
There’s a picture of another of their S40’s Reg No KCK 240N heading up the M1 here on Flickr

The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order?

David

[punchy_dan]

The Atki artic tippers first one is Bill Howard burton on Trent not sure on the second on ,I think Dean you’ve put one of Howard’s on previously .

[windrush]

5thwheel:
The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order?

David

That’s correct, it can get blooming hot in Atherton though! Great pics again.

Pete.

[moomooland]

5thwheel:
The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order? David

You are indeed correct David.
I emailed Sean at the Foden Society and ths was his reply
“My understanding is this is an export market cab. Australia, Africa, etc. The additional roof keeps direct heat from the sun off the top of the cab and has a built in exterior sun visor over the windscreen. Back in the day these were considered to be a very special long distance truck. The lorry may have been a cancelled export order or could have been specified by Jays as they did operate on the continent.”

[gingerfold]

moomooland:

5thwheel:
The double skin roof is a heat shield,perhaps they were a cancelled Middle East order? David

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You are indeed correct David.
I emailed Sean at the Foden Society and ths was his reply
“My understanding is this is an export market cab. Australia, Africa, etc. The additional roof keeps direct heat from the sun off the top of the cab and has a built in exterior sun visor over the windscreen. Back in the day these were considered to be a very special long distance truck. The lorry may have been a cancelled export order or could have been specified by Jays as they did operate on the continent.”

Jays stopped running lorries in 2001, but William Jay was still operating as an “agent” until at least a couple of years ago.

[gingerfold]

No comment on the Sheeting & Roping —it’s Sunday ! But what I am interested in is the drive axle on that SA, it definitely isn’t by the look of the hubs that lousy Group axle Seddon insisted on fitting on motors with a bigger engine than a 180LXB ! So would it have been an Eaton axle maybe ? Cheers Bewick.
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Thanks for your comments Dennis, hopefully someone will know about the drive axle ?

It looks like an Eaton.

Hovis ERF, used to deliver to there huge mill on the docks as a kid in the 70s.
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We had a batch of theses ERF B Series 6-wheelers scattered throughout the RHM empire, and IIRC these were the first ERF’s bought by RHM for many, many years. Foden had always been the Sandbach built lorry of choice for Ranks. The ERF’s had Gardner 6LXB 180 engines, Gardner’s had always been the default engine choice since the 1930’s, when Diesels replaced Foden steamers.

Meachers Seddon.
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My favourite Seddon cab.

[bewick]

pete smith:
This pic of Bewicks motor must have been taken later than the rest as you can see the North Bound services at Ross Spur have been built, what year would you make this Dennis?

79/80 maybe Pete although I just can’t get a handle on the load ! It’s fly sheeted ( requires repair) so it’s not the likes of waste paper but a mystery all the same. Cheers Dennis.

[deanb]

Paul has just informed me that the ERF was operated by Ind Coope and has the sign “By Appointment” on
the door. The same as the double diamond Crusader. Both were carrying beer kegs.

[deanb]

moomooland:
Some cracking pictures on here.

Sat here with bated breath wondering whats coming next and will i actually feature in any of the up and coming pictures

Brilliant stuff here’s my favorite so far.

Think this is the last one of ICI in the first batch of photos. There is 1 on page 2 & 8 and on another page
there is a Seddon Atkinson but think it was pulling a flat,but cant remember which page no.

Another Borderer.

[scantastic]

John g Russell were based in gartcosh near glasgow purple John still going strong now based in Cambridge