Chris Webb:
There was a very steep hill from Whitehaven town centre up to Albright and Wilson’s works,can’t remember what it was called.
Going up it was fine with a compartmented petroleum spirit tank as product did not run to the back but with a one potter drivers lost traction when it was wet and could not get up.I have seen a driver backing up that hill,hard to believe but true.The police took a very dim view of that.
I haven’t been there since 1978 and I understand a new access road was built to the plant.
Whatever,I liked going there,never got messed about,good canteen as well.Could tip toluene and xylene at any time,any shift which was handy…saying no more…
Yes, I have been to A and W and the hill was a sod, there was another way in which wasn’t as bad, as for reversing a loaded tanker uphill , ahem, yes I have done that but not at Whitehaven!!
moomooland:
E. Kidd Transport was established more than 60 years ago to provide haulage services for a number of major manufacturers in the Lancaster area.
When Ernest Kidd established E. Kidd Transport the work was predominately with local farmers, delivering cattle to markets.
By the end of the 1960’s Kidds were establishing themselves not only in agricultural and milk haulage but also in general haulage.
Throughout the 1970’s business boomed with Kidds quickly outgrowing their Melling site.
They moved operations to a new purpose built site at the old Lancaster Power Station coal yard just off Caton Road in 1978 where new offices and a new workshop were built.
Still in business today as they are now known, run a a modern fleet of Scania trucks,
Cheers Paul, good info as usual. That Leyland cab must have been a bit cramped looking at the way
the front curves in under the windscreen.
moomooland:
0Think Dennis will have some info relating to this firm from his neck of the woods.
I reckon you could be right Paul !
mizzo:
Chris Webb:
Going up it was fine with a compartmented petroleum spirit tank as product did not run to the back but with a one potter drivers lost traction when it was wet and could not get up.I have seen a driver backing up that hill,hard to believe but true.The police took a very dim view of that.
Yes, I have been to A and W and the hill was a sod, there was another way in which wasn’t as bad, as for reversing a loaded tanker uphill , ahem, yes I have done that but not at Whitehaven!!
1965 and fairly new, would have got back in the yard with a couple of hours left in the day to be told, “Scotland for you tomorrow” so load and home for the “case” and head up the road, never missed a beat in the two years I had that wagon, to be replaced with an ergo Mercury in '67, a bit of luxury in comparison, decent heater, one sweep wind down window, long legs once in its stride etc, but the Leyland looking back was still favourite. Good old days, yes absolutely.
Cheers
Oily
ps the wee boy became a lorry driver.
I’m sure that Paul A will be along soon with info on the Billington motor - I’m guessing it passed through W & J Riding? It certainly has a Riding sleeper
The Longton Haulage motor was new to Pandoro as fleet no.170, and based at Fleetwood. It was sold as an insurance write-off after a cab fire, whilst being driven by Eric Sykes (yes, really! But no, not THAT Eric Sykes ) and subsequently rebuilt.
I have a photo of it in service with Ditchfield & Kitchen, then based in the same Penwortham yard as Longton Haulage. I’d be pretty sure that the rejuvenation was carried out by Longton Coachcraft, also based in the same premises around that time, and it carries one of their sleeper conversions.
Atkinson Borderer 4X2 tractor unit Reg No PSK 246K was originally a W & J Riding motor.
Powered by a ■■■■■■■ 220 engine in line with a Fuller 610 gearbox and a group axle it was originally registered new on the 15th of September 1971 to Monkland Motors.
It was one of the ten Atkinson Borderer’s that Tom Riding bought from ‘Monkland Motors’ with this one costing the book value of £2,781.
Seen here at Longridge, shortly after coming out of the paint shop, it would be later brought back into the workshop for a Riding in house sleeper cab conversion.
After four and a half years in the Riding fleet it was sold on to Norman Billington of Heysham for £1,450 plus vat on the 13th of July 1979.
Photograph courtesy of Geoff Milne.
Yes I know a bit about Smith Bros of Whitehaven they bought quite a considerable tonnage of Bleached Kraft MG Paper from Henry Cooke’s mill at Beetham which was mainly collected by their contractors on their way back to W. ■■■■■■■ but occasionally we did the odd load. Unfortunately these are two shots of one of Cookes own single axle trailers on it’s side at Ambleside with what was 15 tons of BK reels. You will notice that the reels are unwrapped because Smiths were that “tight” they wouldn’t pay for the wrappers ! However, it was our F88 that was taking the load to Whitehaven that Friday morning . The driver had gone home to Ambleside with the trailer on Thursday evening and the silly ■■■■ had dropped it on the car park and gone up home in the unit. One of the landing legs sank into a drain and “bingo” a single axle with that weight on dosent stay upright eh!. Well we transferred the reels onto a 40ft tandem without losing a reel phew ! Smiths was quite a gruelling job for contractors as everything was always desperate, my long gone pal Harry Thompson ran for them when he was an O/D and another long gone pal, Norman Dowell from Wigton was another contractor to Smiths. Leyland 600 could tell us a bit more, I believe Smiths paid well but they got their “pound of flesh” and the loading was a nightmare as it was usually out of two or three different factory’s which could take all day and then they wanted the consignments on the doorstep next morning in London or similar ! Happy Days Cheers Dennis.
DEANB:
One for Oily !
The Autocar transporter group GUY.
Thanks you Dean
1965 and fairly new, would have got back in the yard with a couple of hours left in the day to be told, “Scotland for you tomorrow” so load and home for the “case” and head up the road, never missed a beat in the two years I had that wagon, to be replaced with an ergo Mercury in '67, a bit of luxury in comparison, decent heater, one sweep wind down window, long legs once in its stride etc, but the Leyland looking back was still favourite. Good old days, yes absolutely.Cheers Oilyps the wee boy became a lorry driver.
I’m sure that Paul A will be along soon with info on the Billington motor - I’m guessing it passed through W & J Riding? It certainly has a Riding sleeper
The Longton Haulage motor was new to Pandoro as fleet no.170, and based at Fleetwood. It was sold as an insurance write-off after a cab fire, whilst being driven by Eric Sykes (yes, really! But no, not THAT Eric Sykes ) and subsequently rebuilt.
I have a photo of it in service with Ditchfield & Kitchen, then based in the same Penwortham yard as Longton Haulage. I’d be pretty sure that the rejuvenation was carried out by Longton Coachcraft, also based in the same premises around that time, and it carries one of their sleeper conversions.
Cheers Chris,thanks for the info !
moomooland:
1 Atkinson Borderer 4X2 tractor unit Reg No PSK 246K was originally a W & J Riding motor.
Powered by a ■■■■■■■ 220 engine in line with a Fuller 610 gearbox and a group axle it was originally registered new on the 15th of September 1971 to Monkland Motors.
It was one of the ten Atkinson Borderer’s that Tom Riding bought from ‘Monkland Motors’ with this one costing the book value of £2,781.
Seen here at Longridge, shortly after coming out of the paint shop, it would be later brought back into the workshop for a Riding in house sleeper cab conversion.
After four and a half years in the Riding fleet it was sold on to Norman Billington of Heysham for £1,450 plus vat on the 13th of July 1979.
Photograph courtesy of Geoff Milne.
Sounds like another good bit of business Paul, getting half back for what you paid for it after 4 years
service !
Bewick:
moomooland:
2Think Dennis will have some info relating to this firm from his neck of the woods.
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Yes I know a bit about Smith Bros of Whitehaven they bought quite a considerable tonnage of Bleached Kraft MG Paper from Henry Cooke’s mill at Beetham which was mainly collected by their contractors on their way back to W. ■■■■■■■ but occasionally we did the odd load. Unfortunately these are two shots of one of Cookes own single axle trailers on it’s side at Ambleside with what was 15 tons of BK reels. You will notice that the reels are unwrapped because Smiths were that “tight” they wouldn’t pay for the wrappers ! However, it was our F88 that was taking the load to Whitehaven that Friday morning . The driver had gone home to Ambleside with the trailer on Thursday evening and the silly [zb] had dropped it on the car park and gone up home in the unit. One of the landing legs sank into a drain and “bingo” a single axle with that weight on dosent stay upright eh!. Well we transferred the reels onto a 40ft tandem without losing a reel phew ! Smiths was quite a gruelling job for contractors as everything was always desperate, my long gone pal Harry Thompson ran for them when he was an O/D and another long gone pal, Norman Dowell from Wigton was another contractor to Smiths. Leyland 600 could tell us a bit more, I believe Smiths paid well but they got their “pound of flesh” and the loading was a nightmare as it was usually out of two or three different factory’s which could take all day and then they wanted the consignments on the doorstep next morning in London or similar ! Happy Days Cheers Dennis.
Thanks Dennis,i bet your drivers ears were ringing a bit after you had a chat with him !
Sounds like you got lucky with there being no damage to the reels !
Very tidy Foden. Name is not easy to read looks like Moreflake Oats ■■?
Does anyone recognise where this pic was taken ? There are a few in this spot so i imagine there
must have been a cafe there ■■
Robin Jones and Son tidy Foden. Looks like they were coal and lime merchants.
"Does anyone recognise where this pic was taken ? "
Hi Dean, I’ll kick off with the market square in Sandbach, parked there many a time with digs at The Iron Grey pub.
Oily
P&O bought L Forresters they had a depot at Elworth Sandbach and Fred the transport manager was there with them until P&O finished in 2003 (Peter Lynch Tankers moved into the yard and Cliff Sayer of Sayers Road Tanks Leeming Bar Northallerton purchased most if not all of the P&O tanks and refurbed them and leased them out to the likes of Lynch and us at Direct North West.
This was one of P&Os rubber lined tanks for the carriage of Hypo that Sayers refurbed.
DEANB:
Very tidy Foden. Name is not easy to read looks like Moreflake Oats ■■?
Does anyone recognise where this pic was taken ? There are a few in this spot so i imagine there
Mornflake Oats of Crewe. Still in business today
must have been a cafe there ■■
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Robin Jones and Son tidy Foden. Looks like they were coal and lime merchants.
Stanfield:
P&O bought L Forresters they had a depot at Elworth Sandbach and Fred the transport manager was there with them until P&O finished in 2003 (Peter Lynch Tankers moved into the yard and Cliff Sayer of Sayers Road Tanks Leeming Bar Northallerton purchased most if not all of the P&O tanks and refurbed them and leased them out to the likes of Lynch and us at Direct North West.
This was one of P&Os rubber lined tanks for the carriage of Hypo that Sayers refurbed.
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Was Forresters the firm from Whixhall John? IIRC they were like an orange colour?
Hi dean this blue line is my mate Ray barwick I sent him the pic he put the flags in that way he was chuffed about that the trailer is loaded with pulp for British tissues maesteg this is another one he had with mesh and a coil in the middle
oiltreader: "Does anyone recognise where this pic was taken ? "
Hi Dean, I’ll kick off with the market square in Sandbach, parked there many a time with digs at The Iron Grey pub.Oily
Cheers Oily, was there a cafe nearby or just the digs ■■
Stanfield:
P&O bought L Forresters they had a depot at Elworth Sandbach and Fred the transport manager was there with them until P&O finished in 2003 (Peter Lynch Tankers moved into the yard and Cliff Sayer of Sayers Road Tanks Leeming Bar Northallerton purchased most if not all of the P&O tanks and refurbed them and leased them out to the likes of Lynch and us at Direct North West.
This was one of P&Os rubber lined tanks for the carriage of Hypo that Sayers refurbed.
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Thanks John for that bit of info !
gingerfold:
DEANB:
Very tidy Foden. Name is not easy to read looks like Moreflake Oats ■■?
Does anyone recognise where this pic was taken ? There are a few in this spot so i imagine there
Mornflake Oats of Crewe. Still in business today
Thanks for confirming the name Graham !
smallcoal:
Hi dean this blue line is my mate Ray barwick I sent him the pic he put the flags in that way he was chuffed about that the trailer is loaded with pulp for British tissues maesteg this is another one he had with mesh and a coil in the middle
Thank’s John for your mesage and pics,nice one !
BonkeyDollocks:
DEANB:
One for “Bonkeydollocks”
Nice one Deano! It’s a bladdy stunner that. Would love to know where it was based!
Sorry chap,cant help about where it was based !! Photo would have probably been taken in Sandbach !
Stanfield:
Was Forresters the firm from Whixall John? IIRC they were like an orange colour?
Thats the same firm Chris yes mate
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Come on,pay attention Chris !! The pic of the orange Volvo may have given it away chap !
Seen here at Longridge, shortly after coming out of the paint shop, it would be later brought back into the workshop for a Riding in house sleeper cab conversion.
