Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 2)

I’m not playing top trumps here (far from it) but here’s 18litres of (turbocharged) V8 with a Spicer box:

You’re asking questions that can only be answered by somebody with skill, knowledge, AND EXPERIENCE in such matters. I know of such a man and for a small fee I will tell all. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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The 17-litre was probably just an older, bigger, thirstier engine. They were very well thought-of by drivers I’ve spoken to over the years and apparently they pulled like a train.

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The 6 cylinder and V8s were built at the same time i’m not sure if the Eurostar? had a V8 in but they did do a 520.I went up Windy Hill at 38 tons around 1989 and i dropped half a gear right at the top they were really good pullers.I only drove it occasionally but the engine was superb.They were like chalk and cheese compared with the 450 Scania i have now but they just fell apart

When I was doing heay haulage, we had an Iveco V8at 520(IIRC), it wasn’t my truck, I had a Superliner, but the office reckoned they could tell what type of mood the driver was in, from the fuel card data. It could be quite economical driven modestly, but with a bit of spirited driving, it drank like a sailor on shore leave.
One night the driverwas returning home a little briskly, trying to beat the clock. A couple of QTM (remember them PR? No speed limiter and $40,000 worth of LEDs) couldn’t bag him up, so called him on the radio to tell him he had a chan dragging. It worked.

My Eurostar was the older low-tech one with the 14-litre 420 in it. About mid-90s the higher-tech Cursor engine hit the scene and that’s when the likes of the 520 started to show up, presumably in competition with the Cummins Celect 520 of the same period.

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The Cursor was aptly named, cursed by all. Being only 13 litres with the consumption of a larger engine and lacking in torque made it universally disliked.

I don’t know if it’s me but the old 480s always seemed more powerful than a 480 of today. I’m not sure if the 13 litre was the 360 they put in the Turbostar which to be fair like i’ve said already wemt very well. The problem with them was the cabs fell apart.The TEC cab 300s i think had a smaller engine which were pretty slow but i suppose no worse than other offerings in the same bracket of the time. I had a 1983 P cab Scania tag axle non intercooler and that didn’t break any records

Now then, Harold’s Mk5 Mandator and York 4 inline when new, he only ever had the one Mk5 Mandator. Unfortunately the Mandator didn’t stay like that for long. It’s driver, name lost in time, parked it in a leatherwear shop in Darwen making a terrible mess of things, both AEC and shop. When I say it wasn’t very old, we’re talking days rather than weeks. It was rebuilt eventually, but he painted it in Anglo Scottish Transport livery, this was Harold’s “spare” company and A licence. So what appears in that photo was very short lived.

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The 360 was the old FIAT 14 litre straight 6, the 300 was an earlier version of the same engine, in fact the first turbocharged version, before that it was 260 normally aspirated.

The 13 litre unit was the cursor, and a much higher tech thing, that unit never went in the Turbostar, being several years later.

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Spicer obviously no chance of confusing that with a 15 speed Fuller or a Twin Split.You will use that clutch and it really ain’t no range change.Just like a proper ZF 12 speed.

4 B trailers ain’t quite as difficult as an A triple or even an A double.

You’d obviously know the difference, or equally obviously probably not.

So are you saying the TEC cab Iveco 190/30s and 220/30s had the same engine as the 360 Turbostars but with less power?

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Yes, as I remember it the Fiat later IVECO 13.8 litre 6 cylinder started off normally aspirated at 260bhp in the 170-26 and before that the 619, it was then turbocharged to 300bhp in the 190/220-30, after which it went up to 360bhp, was this intercooled I don’t know, then finally a short lived optional upgrade of 380bhp with very early Bosch EDC. The Eurostar then came with a heavily reworked version of it at 420bhp with mechanical injection or 470bhp with electronic injection. All the heavy IVECO engines, 9.5, 13.8 and 17.2 litres were then replaced by the new Cursor engines.

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If its a 1418 plenty of rubber on the trailer to stop it? thats if it ever got going lol.

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How would you know?
You previously made the statement that two trailers could not be reversed. Don’t judge everyone on your own inabilities.

Bit heavy on the juice I imagine.

From the old United Carriers thread:

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