Someone mention load of wool?
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We had to use tree bark or dock leaves for loo paper.
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Our toilet paper had already been used. But we were happy then, although we were poor.
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Kenny Lane aka Spring road transport, supplied by Princes Commercials, Southampton who went on to be a Volvo dealer, Buzzer
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Would they have built the others Buzzer or just the one above?
Thatās a right load SDU , how did/do they load it.They would gunshot and roll them over here always from the chock rail so they would lean inwards.Looks like heās got ratchet straps to hold it all down so more recent.Straight load
And you try tell the young 'uns these days, theyāll not believe you.
Ramone got a feeling that cab was done by a company in Andover called Locomotors IIRC, they converted lots of motors to sleepers back in the day, donāt know if any other AECās were done there though Buzzer.
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If I remember right, it was āDoctor Foster went to Gloucester in a shower of rain..ā etc
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Carryfast you donāt have a clue how the industry works in your own country, so stop making a goose of yourself and even hinting that you know how it works in mine.
I presume by rope bars, which clearly demonstrates your utter lack of knowledge, you mean tie rails. Now why would that stupid idea of replacing them with door handles (I donāt even know how that would work), even cross my mind? Equally stupid is replacing āshort pieces of ropeā with power lead extensions. How long are these āshort pieces of ropeā?
My god man! Despite omitting the āIā, clearly it is yourself to which you refer. Iām not surprised you donāt know the tensile strengths, Iām utterly amazed that you are admitting it.
Iām not buying into the argument on how to secure paper reels, Iāve never carted them, but if Dennis told me how to do it, Iād take notice, he and his successful companies did it long enough to know a bit about it. You on the other hand, spent five minutes moving parcels about, know nothing, except what you have read, about this industry. Dennis alone has spent more time carting paper reels, than your aggregate time in the industry.
Methods that were accepted practice for generations, have now been outlawed by knobs who have never done the job. How the frig loads werenāt falling off left, right and centre before straps became the norm, has me baffled.
Your problem, Carryfast, is to compensate for your lack of practical experience, is your sole reliance on the verbal and written diatribe from authorities who havenāt had a clue.
You accuse me of having a personal vendetta against you, nothing could be further from the truth. I do take offence at anyone who wants to tell me Iām doing the job wrong, if their knowledge is merely something they have Googled. There are plenty of fellows on this forum, from whom I would gladly take advice. Youāre not one of them. Iām obviously not alone in my views, judging by the comments of others.
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In the days before OTT workplace health and safety, a derrick. A small coil of barbed wire between each bale held them in place. They were roped with double truckieās hitches, prior to ropes being banned.
As I said in my case they were alternated between tilt or flat, according to the job, at the yard by more than one of us but equally often more than one trailer so not much difference.
You only need to strip and rebuild a tilt for overhead load type jobs.In all cases most jobs wonāt be overhead load ones.
Utilising tilt trailers as flats and tilt covers as sheets was usually accepted practice in the unaccompanied trailer and traction sector.It was no big deal.
The firm where I worked was involved in that and then also applied it to UK domestic general haulage using some of the same ferry type trailers and practices.
Stripping and rebuilding tilts aināt the big deal that itās made out to be, nor needed to be done often and way easier to use in a similar way as a curtain sider most of the time, than having to rope and sheet a flat for every job.
Ramoneās comments seem strangely contradictory in that regard.I doubt that he ever did any jobs involving working with tilts.
Ah a similar way to how the generation before me did it.I just missed out but substitute barbed wire with āpinsā wood i think which would hold the bales together.With there being many different types of bales and some very unstable some were loaded two high then sheeted to hold them together then another two high then the lot was roped and sheeted.The majority loaded from mills with a hoist from above lowered down and a good driver got them in place first time with a wool hook.I wish Les P was still on here he did loads of it a great bloke
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They were well ahead of their time with the high roof.
On a completely different subject iām guessing from reading your posts you come from a farming background ( not much gets past me 
) Have you watched any of the Clarksons Farm .If so do you think heās doing the farming industry any good.He seems to spend plenty of money due to his mistakes and obviously your average farmer cant do that. I find it very funny but from a farmers point of view its serious. On the new series heās bought a pub and still fighting the council
Excuse me for asking, but what jobs did you do with tilts? Iāll be perfectly honest here and state that Iāve never touched one in my life. I have however carried many loads of paper reels with zero dramas. As far as Iām concerned the ones loaded on the roll presented no problems, whereas the ones loaded on end did pucker the sphincter a tad.
Youāve often bragged about your transport history which as far as I can ascertain was test driving dustcarts or fire engines and some time trunking a box van to Preston or wherever. So where suddenly have paper reels, tilts and roping and sheeting appeared on your CV from?
Iām calling Walter Mitty here.
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You mean the same double dollies that I showed in my door handles and power cord example.
When did AU declare roping illegal ?.
You went to all that trouble of that needless reply to what was clearly meant in humour and only humour.
I clearly do know how you use bars as opposed to us ( having used rope hooks ) .Why not just try putting all the hostility aside.
You could have just said along the lines forget the door handles youāll stay with the bars which just make roping a bit more inconvenient in some ways but provide a lot more flexibility in providing more space for the types of creative roping that I clearly showed and easier provision for load securing using straps and chains.
Which also proves that I do know the job been there and did it and unlike Bewickās fleet never lost a load off the deck of a tilt or a flat.
R just watched the first two episodes, its quite funny but he really cares about the farming people and he does throw a realistic light on farming today. I was from a farming background but chose trucks instead and now its 55 years in that business which my two sons now carry on with the job, even that has completely changed from my day but they are good at it and with far less kit than I ran back in the day. Nowadays there is far too much paperwork and rules and H&S rules, most work practice was common sense which a lot do not have today but hey ho we continue, Buzzer
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There was nothing clear about it, it appeared to be more crap from your alternative world.
Speaking of your alternative world, Iām keenly awaiting your reply to the Moaster, re your sudden addition to your curriculum vitae. Odd you have never mentioned it before, did it slip your mind?
Strange too that loading/unloading a few parcels broke your back whilst deconstructing and reconstructing a coulpe of tilts a day was seen by you as a bit of fun. The blokes who really did it, describe it as something of a burden.
Playing with a power cord over a door proves nothing except you donāt have a rope.
Thereās a saying, coined by a wise man, in this country, āthe man who never made a mistake, never made anything.ā
Seems to me and so many on this forum, that in trying to cast yourself as Mr. Perfection, you fall firmly into the latter category.
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