Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

[jshepguis]

Ray the Leyland is in the colours of a firm from Tarleton between Southport and Preston, so a Wigan reg could be possible that is the original company? Here is another photo.

[froggy55]

Probably designed to check that driver and/or passenger do not fiddle with their bo…cks on the road.

[oiltreader]

Thanks to pete smith, Ray Smyth, DEANB, jshepguis, whisperingsmith and Froggy55 for the pics great set of photos,like the diy buggy
Oily

Spring has sprung in Dingwall.

[oiltreader]

"Any idea what make that little digger is in the 1st pic Pete? "
Found this Patrick identical machine of 1960 vintage but can’t find a name for it.
Oily

[pv83]

oiltreader:
"Any idea what make that little digger is in the 1st pic Pete? "
Found this Patrick identical machine of 1960 vintage but can’t find a name for it.
Oily

Ta Oily, seeing it from this angle and if I had to make a guess, I would say it’s a Atlas… but I might be wrong as usual…

[ray_smyth]

I met Ashley Jackson the Yorkshire Artist in the 1980s because of my connection with singer Tony Christie.
I occasionally worked for Tony Christie from the mid 1970s, and for the next 20 years operating spotlights
in theatres and cabaret clubs, and sometimes driving the big van carrying the stage sound and lighting
equipment, mainly in the UK. Ashley Jacksons book, “My brush with Fortune” was given to me and my wife
as a Christmas present from Tony Christie, the fly leaf was signed by Ashley.

Ray Smyth.

[froggy55]

Who will tell more (engine) about this heavy duty Bedford TK 6-wheeler?

[oiltreader]

Thanks to Ray Smyth and Froggy55 for he pics

This one to get Grumpy Old Man just a wee bit excited, mebbe not with the four in line tho’.
Oily

[albion1938]

Froggy55:
Who will tell more (engine) about this heavy duty Bedford TK 6-wheeler?

Can’t tell you what’s in that particular lorry but you might find this interesting, from the original TK brochure. 330 Bedford was standard in that model, 370 (top row second left) was a popular option for heavier work (Bedford never mentioned it but it’s a Leyland) and I’d have thought that’s the most likely fitment in that vehicle.
Bernard

[hrs]

pete smith:
A couple of shots from the construction of the Mander shopping Centre Wolverhampton under construction, 1968/70. The Ford D Series was operated by Midland Earthmovers from Dudley

Wow pete, they had a lot of faith in that rock beneith the founndations of the building. Harvey

[grumpy_old_man]

oiltreader:
Thanks to Ray Smyth and Froggy55 for he pics

This one to get Grumpy Old Man just a wee bit excited, mebbe not with the four in line tho’.
Oily

The front bit ?.. any day of the week…“where are my notes”? The rear bit (4 in line) no thank you, those top rear springs…invention of the devil.

[ray_smyth]

oiltreader:
Thanks to Ray Smyth and Froggy55 for he pics

This one to get Grumpy Old Man just a wee bit excited, mebbe not with the four in line tho’.
Oily

I seem to remember that Triplex were part of Pilkington Glass of St Helens. Because this AEC
has a St Helens Reg. No, PDJ 519, was it originally a Pilkingtons lorry ?, or perhaps one of many
transport fleets in St Helens ?. Ray Smyth.

[froggy55]

albion1938:

Froggy55:
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Who will tell more (engine) about this heavy duty Bedford TK 6-wheeler?

Can’t tell you what’s in that particular lorry but you might find this interesting, from the original TK brochure. 330 Bedford was standard in that model, 370 (top row second left) was a popular option for heavier work (Bedford never mentioned it but it’s a Leyland) and I’d have thought that’s the most likely fitment in that vehicle.
Bernard
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Thanks Bernard. I reckon 6-wheelers had a gross Weight of 24 tons in England; wouldn’t 135 bhp have been underpowered in 1964, year of registration of this TK?

[pyewacket947v]

Froggy55:

albion1938:

Froggy55:
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Who will tell more (engine) about this heavy duty Bedford TK 6-wheeler?

Can’t tell you what’s in that particular lorry but you might find this interesting, from the original TK brochure. 330 Bedford was standard in that model, 370 (top row second left) was a popular option for heavier work (Bedford never mentioned it but it’s a Leyland) and I’d have thought that’s the most likely fitment in that vehicle.
Bernard
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Thanks Bernard. I reckon 6-wheelers had a gross Weight of 24 tons in England; wouldn’t 135 bhp have been underpowered in 1964, year of registration of this TK?

I dont think 24 ton was top weight for 3 axles back that far, 4 axle rigids where 24 ton when i drove them
in 68-72. . I think 6 wheelers where 20/21 ton.
I am happy to be corrected on this,

[rastone]

pyewacket947v:

Froggy55:

albion1938:

Froggy55:
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Who will tell more (engine) about this heavy duty Bedford TK 6-wheeler?

Can’t tell you what’s in that particular lorry but you might find this interesting, from the original TK brochure. 330 Bedford was standard in that model, 370 (top row second left) was a popular option for heavier work (Bedford never mentioned it but it’s a Leyland) and I’d have thought that’s the most likely fitment in that vehicle.
Bernard
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Thanks Bernard. I reckon 6-wheelers had a gross Weight of 24 tons in England; wouldn’t 135 bhp have been underpowered in 1964, year of registration of this TK?

I dont think 24 ton was top weight for 3 axles back that far, 4 axle rigids where 24 ton when i drove them
in 68-72. . I think 6 wheelers where 20/21 ton.
I am happy to be corrected on this,

Wasn’t a Riever 20 t and I know a D-Series was 17
Tony

[leyland600]

Hi Froggy , I operated a 1967 ERF 66GX six wheeler which was plated for 22 tons gross but in 1972 I had it uprated to 24 ton gross by fitting two heavier front springs. Prior to the ERF I ran a 1963 Foden S21 cabbed 8 wheeler which was rated at 24 ton gross. I seem to remember that six wheelers were uprated from 22 to 24 tons around 1970 or 71.
Cheers, Leyland 600.

[frankydobo]

In 1955 rigid gross weights were, 2 Axles 14Ton, 3 Axles 20Ton, 4 Axles 24Ton. The 1964 changes were 16, 22, 28Tons and remained the same for the 1966 regs. In 1973 the metric weights came in 16.26tonnes, 24.39tonnes and 30.49tonnes.
1 Ton = 1.016 Tonnes. These weights remained the same until 1988 when the 2 Axle rigid went to 17 tonnes. The Bedford in the pic is likely their Bedford-Boughton KGT 17Ton 6x4 Tipper. Bedford didn’t really beef up until the KM models arrived. Franky.

[pete_smith]

pv83:

pete smith:
A couple of shots from the construction of the Mander shopping Centre Wolverhampton under construction, 1968/70. The Ford D Series was operated by Midland Earthmovers from Dudley

Any idea what make that little digger is in the 1st pic Pete? In the 2nd it’s a JCB, figured that one out already

Hi Patrick,
I think it may be a Liebherr?

[pete_smith]

Chris Webb:

pete smith:
A couple of shots from the construction of the Mander shopping Centre Wolverhampton under construction, 1968/70. The Ford D Series was operated by Midland Earthmovers from Dudley

Was that shopping centre named after the same Mander who had a paint factory in Wolves?

That the ones Chris, no Manders paint either, that went down the pan years ago, place in Yorkshire bought them and closed it down!

[froggy55]

Thanks to all of you for these interesting informations! Here, in France, 6-wheelers were allowed 22 tonnes for a start (1930s), reduced to 19t in 1936/37 by the rail & road agreements, then 26t from 1945 up to now. For the 4-wheelers, it was 16 tonnes, upgraded to 19 tonnes in 1945. 4-axle trucks were not introduced in France before 1992 at 32 t. Before that, they were considered as 6-wheelers, and thus limited to 26t.