kevmac47:
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Great stuff Kev, Is David Bailey your adviser Eh ? Only jocking Kev You are doing a great job, Keep them rolling, ReGARDS Larry.
Looks like Mr Heanor has a tender behind.
Didn’t realise they were still going, but don’t get to Derbyshire much nowadays.
John
oiltreader:
kevmorrow:
oiltreader:
Right then who’s going to tell me what wagon this is, I well remember the Lucas defrosters, which were 1950s and before, the screw drive winding handle on the nearside has me foxed.
OilyHi oily. First try! Looking at the window design could be a rough terrain Thorneycroft Nubian 4X4 that preceded the Bedford Green Goddess. The only anomaly is this motor does not have front window vents.
Regards KevHi Kev, yes the window glass is also a puzzler and like others say it’s defo a Thornycroft, I find plenty photos with the opening windows and curved side glass but none with none opening front screen
This 1952 model in Malta would be of around the same time.
Oily
Gordon wil:
oiltreader:
kevmorrow:
oiltreader:
Right then who’s going to tell me what wagon this is
OilyHi oily. First try! Looking at the window design could be a rough terrain Thorneycroft Nubian 4X4 that preceded the Bedford Green Goddess. The only anomaly is this motor does not have front window vents.
Regards KevHi Kev, yes the window glass is also a puzzler and like others say it’s defo a Thornycroft, I find plenty photos with the opening windows and curved side glass but none with none opening front screen
This 1952 model in Malta would be of around the same time.
Oily
Hi Gordon wil, cheers for the pic 
I think I’ve sussed now, the picture I posted had same cab but fixed forward windscreen, originally it would have had windows(opening) like in your photo and that’s what the handle on the n/side may have been for, or maybe not looking back, 5thwheel was right with his answer.
Oily
Cracking photos kevmac47
The same two wagons, different part of the country, swapping ballast boxes for turntables. The pics thanks to Mark Hobbs.
Oily
One from Ade, sent to him by a mate, we are pondering what the box trailer might be for, it has a tractor hydraulic connection, tipping mebbe, though the frame on the back might get in the way
Oily
oiltreader:
Cracking photos kevmac47
The same two wagons, different part of the country, swapping ballast boxes for turntables. The pics thanks to Mark Hobbs.
Oily
Oily, Paul (X1’s driver) told me that unit weighs in at 45t. with the ballast box fitted. Regards Kev.
kevmac47:
oiltreader:
Cracking photos kevmac47
The same two wagons, different part of the country, swapping ballast boxes for turntables. The pics thanks to Mark Hobbs.
OilyOily, Paul (X1’s driver) told me that unit weighs in at 45t. with the ballast box fitted. Regards Kev.
Kev that sounds right as the Contractors used to tare in around 48/50 tons and they were rated at 240 tons GTW and sometimes a bit more as guess work was quite popular in those far off days 
cheers Johnnie 
oiltreader:
One from Ade, sent to him by a mate, we are pondering what the box trailer might be for, it has a tractor hydraulic connection, tipping mebbe, though the frame on the back might get in the way
Oily
Think you’ll find that’s an “off-road people carrier”. The frame at the back is steps, it’ll likely have seats inside, used behind a tractor for shooting parties or taking workers out to the fields and maybe bringing back produce. It’s got springs, so likely originally for road use, looks like it started out as a Scammell coupling artic trailer, BR or BRS parcels maybe?
Do I get a paper hat, tin whistle or a goldfish in a jar ? (No putty medals please I’ve got some already!)
Bernard
albion1938:
oiltreader:
One from Ade, sent to him by a mate, we are pondering what the box trailer might be for, it has a tractor hydraulic connection, tipping mebbe, though the frame on the back might get in the way
OilyThink you’ll find that’s an “off-road people carrier”. The frame at the back is steps, it’ll likely have seats inside, used behind a tractor for shooting parties or taking workers out to the fields and maybe bringing back produce. It’s got springs, so likely originally for road use, looks like it started out as a Scammell coupling artic trailer, BR or BRS parcels maybe?
Do I get a paper hat, tin whistle or a goldfish in a jar
Bernard
Yes Bernard, I’ll go with that, veg croppers transport and having a closer look the hydraulic pipe would be a power hitch from the tractor PTO.
Oily
sammyopisite:
kevmac47:
oiltreader:
Cracking photos kevmac47
The same two wagons, different part of the country, swapping ballast boxes for turntables. The pics thanks to Mark Hobbs.
OilyOily, Paul (X1’s driver) told me that unit weighs in at 45t. with the ballast box fitted. Regards Kev.
Kev that sounds right as the Contractors used to tare in around 48/50 tons and they were rated at 240 tons GTW and sometimes a bit more as guess work was quite popular in those far off days
cheers Johnnie
Hi sammyopisite, can you relate to any of these.
Oily
oiltreader:
sammyopisite:
kevmac47:
oiltreader:
Cracking photos kevmac47
The same two wagons, different part of the country, swapping ballast boxes for turntables. The pics thanks to Mark Hobbs.
OilyOily, Paul (X1’s driver) told me that unit weighs in at 45t. with the ballast box fitted. Regards Kev.
Kev that sounds right as the Contractors used to tare in around 48/50 tons and they were rated at 240 tons GTW and sometimes a bit more as guess work was quite popular in those far off days
cheers Johnnie
Hi sammyopisite, can you relate to any of these.
Oily
Hi Oily the first one is a Super Constructor 6x6 which I think is 876 BGJ and it is pulling TM413 which was a crane 200 ton trailer
we had the sister motor 875BGJ at Sheffield which I did drive Albion engine and a 8 speed self changing gears gear box semi-automatic ( it was very similar to the Mercedes EPS but column mounted and no clutch ) left hand drive and it was a very good tool just a shame about the engine
the second one is a junior Contractor and we had the sister to this at Sheffield WYO 292 H fleet No. 6205
and this replaced 875 BGJ George Revill had it new and it was 125 ton GTW 250 ■■■■■■■ and a 16 speed self changing gears but mounted on a pedestal right hand drive it was 8 gears on the stick and a splitter pedal on the floor where the clutch pedal is usually fitted.
PUC 475 is a 6x6 constructor which had been phased out when I started
AMH 540H is an Atkinson ballast tractor 55 tons GTW it had a 250 ■■■■■■■ and an epicyclic box ( the same as fitted in the Beaver and buses ) which was 5 speed and a splitter so a 10 speed we also had one of these at sheffield but I can’t remember the reg. or fleet number but it was very close to this . I did not like driving them as I did not like the gear box and the cab had a lot of roll, and my regular wagon was an Atkinson viewline artic. but a 6x4 tractor 250 ■■■■■■■ and a straight six ZF gear box which a lot of people did not like as there was very little movement of the stick gears were very close together and it had a very weak spring so it took a little getting used to but I loved that old girl and it never let me down in 4 years I had it and then my dad had it and I cannot recall having any problems as even though I had moved on I am certain he would have let me know
cheers Johnnie
Sammopposite
In your last post you mention working with a George Revill.
Would it be the same man who started his own haulage business working out of Immingham in the early 70’s.or is this just coincidence?
Bassman
Bassman:
SammoppositeIn your last post you mention working with a George Revill.
Would it be the same man who started his own haulage business working out of Immingham in the early 70’s.or is this just coincidence?Bassman
Hi Bassman no it is a coincidence George was at Pickfords until it closed and he would be around 60 then , I know there is a few folks out there with the same name as me so any misdemeanors it is them and not me 
cheers Johnnie
Sammyopposite,
Thought it might be a long shot but thanks for answering.
Bassman
sammyopisite:
oiltreader:
sammyopisite:
kevmac47:
oiltreader:
Cracking photos kevmac47
The same two wagons, different part of the country, swapping ballast boxes for turntables. The pics thanks to Mark Hobbs.
OilyOily, Paul (X1’s driver) told me that unit weighs in at 45t. with the ballast box fitted. Regards Kev.
Kev that sounds right as the Contractors used to tare in around 48/50 tons and they were rated at 240 tons GTW and sometimes a bit more as guess work was quite popular in those far off days
cheers Johnnie
Hi sammyopisite, can you relate to any of these.
OilyHi Oily the first one is a Super Constructor 6x6 which I think is 876 BGJ and it is pulling TM413 which was a crane 200 ton trailer
we had the sister motor 875BGJ at Sheffield which I did drive Albion engine and a 8 speed self changing gears gear box semi-automatic ( it was very similar to the Mercedes EPS but column mounted and no clutch ) left hand drive and it was a very good tool just a shame about the enginethe second one is a junior Contractor and we had the sister to this at Sheffield WYO 292 H fleet No. 6205
and this replaced 875 BGJ George Revill had it new and it was 125 ton GTW 250 ■■■■■■■ and a 16 speed self changing gears but mounted on a pedestal right hand drive it was 8 gears on the stick and a splitter pedal on the floor where the clutch pedal is usually fitted.PUC 475 is a 6x6 constructor which had been phased out when I started
AMH 540H is an Atkinson ballast tractor 55 tons GTW it had a 250 ■■■■■■■ and an epicyclic box ( the same as fitted in the Beaver and buses ) which was 5 speed and a splitter so a 10 speed we also had one of these at sheffield but I can’t remember the reg. or fleet number but it was very close to this . I did not like driving them as I did not like the gear box and the cab had a lot of roll, and my regular wagon was an Atkinson viewline artic. but a 6x4 tractor 250 ■■■■■■■ and a straight six ZF gear box which a lot of people did not like as there was very little movement of the stick gears were very close together and it had a very weak spring so it took a little getting used to but I loved that old girl and it never let me down in 4 years I had it and then my dad had it and I cannot recall having any problems as even though I had moved on I am certain he would have let me know
cheers Johnnie
Hi Sammyopisite, Thanks for that, great detail. 6x4 ex Pickford Atki Viewlines here
flickr.com/photos/21437618@N02/5152727094/
flickr.com/photos/21437618@N02/6032951812/
flickr.com/photos/21437618@N02/3758147938/
and an advert from 1953
Oily
A step back in time to when there were many more 4 wheelers like the E.R.F. on the roads
doing long distance work.
Photographed at the B.C.V.M. earlier this month.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
Harold Fillingham.
cattle wagon man:
A step back in time to when there were many more 4 wheelers like the E.R.F. on the roads
doing long distance work.Photographed at the B.C.V.M. earlier this month.
Cheers , cattle wagon man.
That’s a Dorset registration plate if I am not mistaken, Buzzer