Spardo:
That Mack cab design is decades old, I remember many, many years ago they tried to market it in the UK. I think the engine hump in the low slung cab was unacceptably high.
Mack LE first introduced 1994 on refuse vehicles.
Oily
Thanks to Buzzer, Spardo, Lawrence Dunbar, ramone and Dennis Javelin for the photos 
also Spardo and Froggy55 for the links
Oily
Mack LE domestic trash collection in action.
youtu.be/vB8ev-LWLgw
Spardo:
Ironic when you think that Renault were one of the first, with the AE (Magnum) to produce a cab with a completely flat floor. Did anyone ever see one of those Macks on the road in Britain? I certainly didnât.
Yes, I remember seeing Brit ones occasionally on the A2 in the '70s, like the one pictured below. And didnât OHS have one to run trailers between Rainham and the Channel Ports?
PS. I drove an AE Magnum Mack 440.
ERF-NGC-European:
Spardo:
Ironic when you think that Renault were one of the first, with the AE (Magnum) to produce a cab with a completely flat floor. Did anyone ever see one of those Macks on the road in Britain? I certainly didnât.Yes, I remember seeing Brit ones occasionally on the A2 in the '70s, like the one pictured below. And didnât OHS have one to run trailers between Rainham and the Channel Ports?
PS. I drove an AE Magnum Mack 440.
EDIT to add a picture of the OHS Mack with day cab; and to add a further picture of a Belgian example from the same period.
oiltreader:
Proper Macks
Oily
Now yer talkinâ.
That P&S brings back memorys of them flashing past in the dark with all their christmas tree lights aglow, as I plodded along with my Highwayman down the A74. Also frequently on the Heads of the Valleys. Never dreamt I would one day actually drive one, but 13,000 miles away. 
Spardo:
That Mack cab design is decades old, I remember many, many years ago they tried to market it in the UK. I think the engine hump in the low slung cab was unacceptably high.
Iâm not 100% sure, but feel it was a Brockway designed cab, adopted by Mack, when the took over Brockway in the 50s (?)
That was definitely the case for the R Model cabs, that superseded the B model.
Didnât Ruttle Plant Hire from the North West run some of those Macks Iâm sure there was an article some years ago in a Truck and Driver magazine?
oiltreader:
Proper Macks
Oily
âPowders may be taken and Feathers may be ruffledâ but those P & S Macks couldnât pull the skin off of a rice pudding ! All wind and pish as my Driver the late great Eric Postlethwaite used to say ! ! Our Bradyâs Octopus and trailer could walk by them and probably with more weight on as well ! Not wanting to start a massive argument like but I have âgesticulatedâ from the passenger side window ( i.e. whipping motions !) as we â â â â â â all over them on the A 74 and the M6 in 1966/7 
Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
oiltreader:
Proper Macks
OilyâPowders may be taken and Feathers may be ruffledâ but those P & S Macks couldnât pull the skin off of a rice pudding ! All wind and pish as my Driver the late great Eric Postlethwaite used to say ! ! Our Bradyâs Octopus and trailer could walk by them and probably with more weight on as well ! Not wanting to start a massive argument like but I have âgesticulatedâ from the passenger side window ( i.e. whipping motions !) as we â â â â â â all over them on the A 74 and the M6 in 1966/7
Well I canât prove anything about the P&S Macks, because I was driving a 38 mph Highwayman with a full load of whisky, but I can tell you there was nothing wayward about the same model in Oz (where I was led to believe some of theirâs might have come from) and they went fine uphill and down dale rough roads and smooth and through rivers with 3 trailers and around 45 tons (would that be right Dig?*) of cows on board.
*Never weighed a cow myself but all I can say is they were great big boggers with horns which sometimes stretched up out of the crates.
There were still a fair few Maxidynes with Joey boxes around in S E Qld in the 70âs. You could be sitting in traffic quietly day dreaming away, waiting for the lights to change and all of a sudden the rad grille would clang shut or open. Nearly â â â â meself more than once. 
Iâm far from a Mack expert, but in that modelâs heyday Mack were still offering petrol engines. The P motor was an underpowered 180hp lump, quite possibly the power plant in the truck, to which Bewick displayed his youthful, cheek.
Another option was the legendary Maxidyne, only 237hp but producing torque, unsurpassed until â â â â â â â released their 855 cu, 335hp. That was probably the motivational source of the flashing Macks, of which Spardo speaks.
peterm:
There were still a fair few Maxidynes with Joey boxes around in S E Qld in the 70âs. You could be sitting in traffic quietly day dreaming away, waiting for the lights to change and all of a sudden the rad grille would clang shut or open. Nearly [zb] meself more than once.
Iâm hearing you. I had a Road Commander fitted with Kysor shutters, thermostat controled. Mine had been disabled. I had the motor rebuilt and unknown to me, the shutters were reconnected. The first time the shutters opened and the fan roared into life, I almost dived out of the window.
Spardo:
Bewick:
oiltreader:
Proper Macks
OilyâPowders may be taken and Feathers may be ruffledâ but those P & S Macks couldnât pull the skin off of a rice pudding ! All wind and pish as my Driver the late great Eric Postlethwaite used to say ! ! Our Bradyâs Octopus and trailer could walk by them and probably with more weight on as well ! Not wanting to start a massive argument like but I have âgesticulatedâ from the passenger side window ( i.e. whipping motions !) as we â â â â â â all over them on the A 74 and the M6 in 1966/7
Well I canât prove anything about the P&S Macks, because I was driving a 38 mph Highwayman with a full load of whisky, but I can tell you there was nothing wayward about the same model in Oz (where I was led to believe some of theirâs might have come from) and they went fine uphill and down dale rough roads and smooth and through rivers with 3 trailers and around 45 tons (would that be right Dig?*) of cows on board.
*Never weighed a cow myself but all I can say is they were great big boggers with horns which sometimes stretched up out of the crates.
I.m guessing but I think in your day David the trailer /crate measured 32 feet the same as the rail trucks so I reckon you would probably load 20 head per trailer and assuming meat works cattle they would probly weigh around 1500 pounds live weight dressed about half that so 60 x 1500 divided by 2240 should be close to 40 tonns live weight .Semi plus 3 trailers with crates and 2 dollys 40 tons tare all up weight for the old B Models to wrestle with 80 tonns .
Happy with that mate. 
Dig
Talking about Macks, would any of you have an idea about the manufacturer of the cab of what looks like a B 61 T, operated by ETC Transport in Antwerpen (Belgium)? Certainly more comfortable than the standard cab.Thanks.
I was going to ask about the very smart looking twin steer ERF unit, back up the page. On close look it seems it was fitted with a Gardner 100? Which engine was that? It must have been woefully underpowered even by the standards of the day?
