Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

Mrsteel:
Kempston,
Good morning, the ERF in the photo is from BRS Shotton and looks to be tipping at Vauxhall Luton.
The Atki behind it is one of Jack Watkins of Abergavenny. So we have one delivering steel from North Wales and the other probably from South Wales.
Regards, Allan

Thanks for the info Allan :slight_smile:

Thanks to Buzzer. pv83, Kempston, lurpak, Punchy Dan, DEANB and ramone for the pics :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: some great old uns :smiley:

Unloading motor cycles in the IOM for the TT races, believed the last time it was done this war was 1981, any one know, Buzzer
that models remind me of Geoff Duke and Norton, he was in his prime late '40s and early '50s. Later in '57 Bob McIntyre of Stanley Perthshire set up or broke the lap record of 100mph on a Gilera.
Oily

Buzzer pic looks like John Rhind of Aberdeen later becoming part of Charlie Alexander.
Oily

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This Buzzer pic BRS Cowley Oxford and Pressed Steel Cowley body pressings Hillman Husky and Minx no doubt heading for Rootes at Ryton. Looks like Morris 1000 on the AEC. BRS general and cartransporter fleet livery of that era was red the body pressings fleet more of a light grey blue from what I remember.
Oily

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John Rhind wagons, drivers wearing the obligatory dungarees, handy pocket on the bib for load notes.
Oily

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19 September 1985
Castle Garage
Conway
Cym
A Diamond T recovery truck waits for its next call out.

Yes Oily I remember the body pressings fleet being a grey / blue colour. Re the John Rhind Albion Reiver and Leyland Octopus I can remember them through Carlisle or parked up on The Sands. I visited the Fraserburgh Lighthouse Museum while on tour with a coach party circa 1990 and got chatting to a member of staff who told me that John Rhind was his uncle. I also delivered a load of fish from Whitehave to Mac Fisheries plant further back along street in 1965 loading empty fish boxes back to Whitehaven with my BMC FHK 140 4 wheeler.
Cheers, Leyland 600.

Leyland600:
Yes Oily I remember the body pressings fleet being a grey / blue colour. Re the John Rhind Albion Reiver and Leyland Octopus I can remember them through Carlisle or parked up on The Sands. I visited the Fraserburgh Lighthouse Museum while on tour with a coach party circa 1990 and got chatting to a member of staff who told me that John Rhind was his uncle. I also delivered a load of fish from Whitehave to Mac Fisheries plant further back along street in 1965 loading empty fish boxes back to Whitehaven with my BMC FHK 140 4 wheeler.
Cheers, Leyland 600.

Hi G, dunno if you noticed Buzzer’s post of this pic, familar I’m sure, trust you are well
Cheers Oily

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Sundays samples, Buzzer

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Were these fitted with the big Gardner 8 potter?

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pv83:
Were these fitted with the big Gardner 8 potter?

It’s quite likely that they were indeed powered by the 150 bhp Gardner 8LW, pv83, as Wobbe Reitsma’s book on Foden exports states that those were thus powered in the '50s.

The shot of the Reeve Commer is interesting , as the diesel tank is definitely a none standard as opposed to the circa 35 gal tank it would have been built with ! That large tank looks like it was an ex Leyland Motors or maybe AEC @ 65 gal capacity. Haven’t times changed from all those years ago and into the 70’s/80’s when invariably hauliers had their own derv storage from the entry level 6x4x4 600 gallon tanks ! We only had a small number of Shell agency cards which were very rarely used . Bunkering took off in the later 70’s whereby operators could put their own bulk deliveries into a nationwide system. Our main bunkering point at Bewick Transport was at Moynihans in London Colney mainly for our Daventry based units although we did use Excelbys a fair bit. And in the depot at Milnthorpe I ultimately installed a purpose built 80,000 litre fully bunded tank with two high speed pumps but I still retained a gravity 3000 gal tank inside the workshop in case the electric was ever off which fortunately I can never recall that happening so we had to keep the gravity tank stock turning over throughout the year ! Nowadays it seems that HGV 's, local authorities, Police and Ambulances etc. just fill up here there and everywhere at any filling station as there is no price advantage in storing bulk derv at depots. How times have changed ! Bewick. :wink:

Bewick:
The shot of the Reeve Commer is interesting , as the diesel tank is definitely a none standard as opposed to the circa 35 gal tank it would have been built with ! That large tank looks like it was an ex Leyland Motors or maybe AEC @ 65 gal capacity. Haven’t times changed from all those years ago and into the 70’s/80’s when invariably hauliers had their own derv storage from the entry level 6x4x4 600 gallon tanks ! We only had a small number of Shell agency cards which were very rarely used . Bunkering took off in the later 70’s whereby operators could put their own bulk deliveries into a nationwide system. Our main bunkering point at Bewick Transport was at Moynihans in London Colney mainly for our Daventry based units although we did use Excelbys a fair bit. And in the depot at Milnthorpe I ultimately installed a purpose built 80,000 litre fully bunded tank with two high speed pumps but I still retained a gravity 3000 gal tank inside the workshop in case the electric was ever off which fortunately I can never recall that happening so we had to keep the gravity tank stock turning over throughout the year ! Nowadays it seems that HGV 's, local authorities, Police and Ambulances etc. just fill up here there and everywhere at any filling station as there is no price advantage in storing bulk derv at depots. How times have changed ! Bewick. :wink:

Northumbria Water have a big depot at Pity Me north of Durham and all their vehicles from small vans to 3 axle MAN units fill up at Sainsbury’s next door to the yard.
I have noticed one or two electric vehicles starting to appear in the fleet.

Tyneside

Few more, Buzzer

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Off to the market on Sunday morning I often see this well preserved Peugeot.

And a not very good rain soaked dashcam sight of part of Gauthier’s fleet, I’ll get a better one another day.


Not my pic

My memory tells me that those Commers were a nightmare for ordering spares, a chassis number was always necessary. I am sure to remember sending one of the lads to the dealer to get a heater cable for one we were re-bushing the springs on. We were gobsmacked when we learned that they had-he told us 6 heater cables to choose from… no chassis number, no hope of being certain to get a bit that fitted. Anybody else remember such tales?

Dipster:
My memory tells me that those Commers were a nightmare for ordering spares, a chassis number was always necessary. I am sure to remember sending one of the lads to the dealer to get a heater cable for one we were re-bushing the springs on. We were gobsmacked when we learned that they had-he told us 6 heater cables to choose from… no chassis number, no hope of being certain to get a bit that fitted. Anybody else remember such tales?

Anyone who’s owned a typical French car will appreciate that and know from bitter experience how annoying it is, when i ever had a Frenchie in for brakes i’d remove the parts and take them with me to match up, could be anything up to 4 different types fitted to otherwise identical cars, chassis number and brake system make helped a little but even with all that info it could still be a choice of two or more.
Not just the French obviously but they were the worse i came across, easiest to buy parts for were and still are Japanese in my opinion.

Mondays donation, Buzzer

Juddian:

Dipster:
My memory tells me that those Commers were a nightmare for ordering spares, a chassis number was always necessary. I am sure to remember sending one of the lads to the dealer to get a heater cable for one we were re-bushing the springs on. We were gobsmacked when we learned that they had-he told us 6 heater cables to choose from… no chassis number, no hope of being certain to get a bit that fitted. Anybody else remember such tales?

Anyone who’s owned a typical French car will appreciate that and know from bitter experience how annoying it is, when i ever had a Frenchie in for brakes i’d remove the parts and take them with me to match up, could be anything up to 4 different types fitted to otherwise identical cars, chassis number and brake system make helped a little but even with all that info it could still be a choice of two or more.
Not just the French obviously but they were the worse i came across, easiest to buy parts for were and still are Japanese in my opinion.

Pop into Halfords for an headlight bulb don’t bother with the search booklet, just find the most expensive, check back in book,yep spot on :unamused: