Past Present and in Between in Pictures (Part 1)

[pete_smith]

coomsey:
A beastie! NMP off FB. Does it have Wolverhampton on the door?

New to J N Miller of Wolverhampton, looking at the invoice and it was £3,777.9s.7d, how many do you want at that price Paul?!

[1970commer]

Today saw the final ride out of a good friend of mine & one of the best lorry drivers I’ve ever worked with.

Gavin Salt RIP.

You’ve filled your last log book in Gavin so put your handbrake on, leave it out of gear & the steering wheel straight owd’ lad.

[coomsey]

pete smith:

coomsey:
A beastie! NMP off FB. Does it have Wolverhampton on the door?
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New to J N Miller of Wolverhampton, looking at the invoice and it was £3,777.9s.7d, how many do you want at that price Paul?!

A lot of money back then Pete (wonder what that’d be today?) Give me 10% discount n I’d take her off your hands She’s a looker, wonder how many years between the photos ?

[pete_smith]

coomsey:

pete smith:

coomsey:
A beastie! NMP off FB. Does it have Wolverhampton on the door?
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New to J N Miller of Wolverhampton, looking at the invoice and it was £3,777.9s.7d, how many do you want at that price Paul?!

A lot of money back then Pete (wonder what that’d be today?) Give me 10% discount n I’d take her off your hands She’s a looker, wonder how many years between the photos ?

Hi Paul,
She was delivered ex works to Homalloy in Preston for the cab to be fitted on 22nd June 1954, she was sold by Millers in 1978, I know as I washed her off and was sold for £200 changed hands in early 1980’s so I reckon 30 years between pics. She still survives but in a very sorry state

[coomsey]

pete smith:

coomsey:

pete smith:

coomsey:
A beastie! NMP off FB. Does it have Wolverhampton on the door?
1

New to J N Miller of Wolverhampton, looking at the invoice and it was £3,777.9s.7d, how many do you want at that price Paul?!

A lot of money back then Pete (wonder what that’d be today?) Give me 10% discount n I’d take her off your hands She’s a looker, wonder how many years between the photos ?

Hi Paul,
She was delivered ex works to Homalloy in Preston for the cab to be fitted on 22nd June 1954, she was sold by Millers in 1978, I know as I washed her off and was sold for £200 changed hands in early 1980’s so I reckon 30 years between pics. She still survives but in a very sorry state

Reckon she’d earned her corn then Pete,shame someone hasn’t sorted her, I wouldn’t imagine they sold that many. Seem to think you’d have to pay £98,000 for her now! I’ll say one thing,you don’t half get about Pete Thanks for a very comprehensive answer

[windrush]

1970commer:
Today saw the final ride out of a good friend of mine & one of the best lorry drivers I’ve ever worked with.

Gavin Salt RIP.

You’ve filled your last log book in Gavin so put your handbrake on, leave it out of gear & the steering wheel straight owd’ lad.

Well done Robert, a proper drivers send off and it couldn’t have been easy for you today. At least he couldn’t say: “Well I could have done it better” bless him. I thought about him this morning and remembered the times we had together. We are getting rather thin on the ground now alas!

Pete.

[coomsey]

Brave man that had a go at "chancing it " with that one Oily. Stick a Foden 12sp or Scammel gate change in her n you’d possibly make it un nickable Cheers Coomsey

[ray_smyth]

Gavin Salt, Rest In Peace. Ray Smyth.

[oiltreader]

Thanks to coomsey and Pete Smith great Albion pics and a few fasteners on the cab at retirement.
Oily

[oiltreader]

Thanks for the pics 1970commer RIP Gavin Salt.
Oily

[froggy55]

oiltreader:
Thanks to Punchy Dan, DEANB, Froggy55, Lurpak, Lawrence Dunbar and Chris Webb for the pics also Froggy55 for the links
Oily

Looks a bit complicated.

Ane certainly very expensive! I recently had my septic tank emptied, and had a long chat with the operaters. They told me such pumps on an 32 tonne 8-wheel chassis cost some € 800.000 new!

[spardo]

Froggy55:

oiltreader:
Thanks to Punchy Dan, DEANB, Froggy55, Lurpak, Lawrence Dunbar and Chris Webb for the pics also Froggy55 for the links
Oily

Looks a bit complicated.

Ane certainly very expensive! I recently had my septic tank emptied, and had a long chat with the operaters. They told me such pumps on an 32 tonne 8-wheel chassis cost some € 800.000 new!

I wonder if they are all like that Froggy, the first time ours was emptied I knew nothing about it and a rather dodgy English plumber sent a farmer round with a tractor towing a tank and we paid the plumber. Realising belatedly that that was almost certainly illegal (it is presumed he then sprayed our waste on his fields ), the next time I got an official operator in with his lorry and the cost was exactly the same. And I got a certificate too.

[froggy55]

Spardo:

Froggy55:

oiltreader:
Thanks to Punchy Dan, DEANB, Froggy55, Lurpak, Lawrence Dunbar and Chris Webb for the pics also Froggy55 for the links
Oily

Looks a bit complicated.

Ane certainly very expensive! I recently had my septic tank emptied, and had a long chat with the operaters. They told me such pumps on an 32 tonne 8-wheel chassis cost some € 800.000 new!

I wonder if they are all like that Froggy, the first time ours was emptied I knew nothing about it and a rather dodgy English plumber sent a farmer round with a tractor towing a tank and we paid the plumber. Realising belatedly that that was almost certainly illegal (it is presumed he then sprayed our waste on his fields ), the next time I got an official operator in with his lorry and the cost was exactly the same. And I got a certificate too.

The guy I had to do the job also uses tractors and trailers, because they’re far cheaper than trucks. The problem is that they have to tip their stinky load in a special center in Bourges, and it’s a lot of time lost on the road (50 kph maxi for the tractor + trailer). Some still get rid of the waste in fields; it’s allowed under certain condition like spraying, not dumping in a ditch.

[spardo]

Froggy55:

Spardo:

Froggy55:

oiltreader:
Thanks to Punchy Dan, DEANB, Froggy55, Lurpak, Lawrence Dunbar and Chris Webb for the pics also Froggy55 for the links
Oily

Looks a bit complicated.

Ane certainly very expensive! I recently had my septic tank emptied, and had a long chat with the operaters. They told me such pumps on an 32 tonne 8-wheel chassis cost some € 800.000 new!

I wonder if they are all like that Froggy, the first time ours was emptied I knew nothing about it and a rather dodgy English plumber sent a farmer round with a tractor towing a tank and we paid the plumber. Realising belatedly that that was almost certainly illegal (it is presumed he then sprayed our waste on his fields ), the next time I got an official operator in with his lorry and the cost was exactly the same. And I got a certificate too.

The guy I had to do the job also uses tractors and trailers, because they’re far cheaper than trucks. The problem is that they have to tip their stinky load in a special center in Bourges, and it’s a lot of time lost on the road (50 kph maxi for the tractor + trailer). Some still get rid of the waste in fields; it’s allowed under certain condition like spraying, not dumping in a ditch.

I am surprised at that, the pump on a tractor must be very basic compared to the one you described, so I would have thought that that would more than offset the cost of tipping. Also surprised that spraying human waste, highly toxic and not at all like that from herbivores, on fields is legal. However well supervised. But, with the cost the same to me, I think I will stick with the approved lorry next time.

[windrush]

We used to run a few caravan rallies on farms in the 90’s and the farmers often asked us to empty our toilets into their spreaders rather than fill up the waste system, that would then be spread onto their fields. Legal or not, I have no idea?

Pete.

[spardo]

windrush:
We used to run a few caravan rallies on farms in the 90’s and the farmers often asked us to empty our toilets into their spreaders rather than fill up the waste system, that would then be spread onto their fields. Legal or not, I have no idea?

Pete.

No idea either Pete, but that sounds even worse, chemical toilets contain errr, chemicals. At least our fosse septiques here contain no chemicals at all, in fact we are warned against using bleach and other chemicals because that would kill all the useful buggies which allow nice clean uncontaminated water to drain slowly away into the soil.

But what the tanker or the farmer ■■■■■ up is all the solid material gathered at the bottom of the tank.

[dipster]

Spardo:

windrush:
We used to run a few caravan rallies on farms in the 90’s and the farmers often asked us to empty our toilets into their spreaders rather than fill up the waste system, that would then be spread onto their fields. Legal or not, I have no idea?

Pete.

No idea either Pete, but that sounds even worse, chemical toilets contain errr, chemicals. At least our fosse septiques here contain no chemicals at all, in fact we are warned against using bleach and other chemicals because that would kill all the useful buggies which allow nice clean uncontaminated water to drain slowly away into the soil.

But what the tanker or the farmer ■■■■■ up is all the solid material gathered at the bottom of the tank.

French country hardware shops used to sell sachets of some biological concoction that one was encouraged to flush down the loo to reinforce the efforts of “the useful buggies” in the tank. Similar products might have been sold in the UK, but I never had a fosse there. Is this domestic biological warfare still encouraged? My present house, despite being in quite a small village, has the luxury of the mains!

[spardo]

Dipster:
French country hardware shops used to sell sachets of some biological concoction that one was encouraged to flush down the loo to reinforce the efforts of “the useful buggies” in the tank.

I think they do Dipster, but we haven’t used it for years after being told by someone who knows (allegedly) that they were a waste of time and money. Since the ‘backup’ (sorry to sensitive souls ) which prompted the first emptying nearly 20 years ago, we have had no problems.

The 2nd emptying, by the lorry, was only because we heard that it was a legal requirement every 4 years, but since nobody else seems bothered, neither are we. Even the man charged with looking into everyone’s fosse (nice work if you can get it ) didn’t even ask to see our certificate.

[oiltreader]

Been told on more than one occasion that I’m talking ■■■■■ so quite at home with previous comments
Oily

Couple of Scammell scans from the Ronnie Cameron Collection.
Lovely bit of history in connection with the Curtis Dumbrill Dairy Scammell artic
eehe.org.uk/?p=31202

[kingswinford_kit]

coomsey:
A beastie! NMP off FB. Does it have Wolverhampton on the door?
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Anybody remember Wulfruna Coal from Wolverhampton ,think they had a similar one ,regards Keith