dcgpx:
Am I being unreasonable?
No you’re not. Does this so called TM even have his/her HGV?
Moose:
tell him where to stick it, ffs you’ll need permission to take a dump next!
+1
A lad I used to work with got loads of over speeds and the company never bothered at all. Even when 1 in particular showed max 133kph with average 112kph over 2 mins.
weeto:
nick2008:
I know about the coasting and its always been one thing ive been against as you have said some vehicles drop out of gear ie the old merc’s did it and I always felt that was wrong …Most modern trucks “coast” controlled by the ecu, Vovlo ishift on cruise control coasts to save fuel.
Yeah, our new Scania Autos do this on cruise, Select Neutral just before the top of a hill, coast down it and re engage 12 automatically at the bottom. Bit off putting at first as you are in cruise and speed starts to drop off before the downhill, you think the cruise has disengaged.
While we’re on subject of infringements does Maual entry come under the same thing.
You have not broken the law and can be proven by checking print out either side of day in question,
you have by accident pushed wrong mode when manually inputting at start of shift.
There is no way of retracting it.
I’ve had loads of overspeeds, my record being 8 in one shift. Not once did I exceed the permitted legal speed limit for the roads I used. I’ve never been asked to sign or explain them to anyone, ever.
In this case if it’s company policy to get you to sign for overspeeds then I would sign, providing the TM took the time to sit & explain the reasons.
I regularly drive a Scania truck which is miscalibrated so that it thinks it’s doing 56 when it’s doing 53, and the speed limiter doesn’t work when the truck’s going down hill, so it always ends up recording an “overspeeding” infringement even when doing 56, let alone 60. (Plus the engine brake doesn’t seem to work.) It’s not illegal to do 60 in a truck on the motorway; it’s illegal for the truck to be configured to allow it. The TM is just covering himself, but you could sign and add a note saying you do not admit to breaking the law.
It’s all rubbish…
The PURPOSE of the original speed limiter legislation was to SAVE FUEL.
Letting the truck over-run the limiter on a downhill SAVES FUEL. As other posters have pointed out, modern trucks are programmed to coast downhill to SAVE FUEL by building up momentum which then helps carry them along the road at the foot of the hill.
Providing you didn’t break the speed limit or interfere with the speed limiter with a wire or whatever, you’ve done nothing wrong at all.
IndigoJo:
I regularly drive a Scania truck which is miscalibrated so that it thinks it’s doing 56 when it’s doing 53, and the speed limiter doesn’t work when the truck’s going down hill…
It’s not supposed to work when the truck is going down a hill. The speed limiter is only designed to prevent the vehicle being powered byond the set limit. Gravity and momentum trump the limiter every time.
We used to get them when digitachs first came out and I refused to sign them, they soon stopped producing them. You should get the red warning light on for overspeeding about a min before it records which gives you the chance to back down if it doesn’t its not set right, it should also say on the readout pre overspeed warning again if it doesnt its not set right. Also as others have mentioned in the new trucks from my experience Merc Actros it goes into neutral by itself when not under power. Thats the way they are designed these days.
on the actros you can scroll along to the RH program and disable the eco roll-on thing but you have to do it every time you start up 
, other thing you can do is take it off CC going long downhill gradients, both help to prevent the surge as it starts to coast and then engages the engine brakes.
I did get the pre warning then the overspeed, that’s how I know exactly where it happened as I had to cancel them.
I had a chat today and apparently it is company policy not to go above the 89kmph we have it set at. So fair enough I said. I know now so put a blurb that I acknowledge the overspeeding but as it didn’t contravene RTA and I wasn’t made aware of company policy I will in future not overspeed. He was happy at that and it won’t go on my record this time ? So compromise I guess .
Bit silly to me but hey ho they want me to go slower then fine
Its just company policy. Now if they found you doing 90mph then you’d be in trouble.
in my experience i have found if you exceed 56mph for more than 30 secs then an over-speed will flash up.
get 3 of these in a daily drive and it will flag up as an infringement when the card is downloaded.
so i find pulling up the wagon before 30secs of 56+ driving down hills works for me.
Had about 5 on the stretch down from saddle worth to Oldham and again on way back down to Brighouse . Know next time not to
Coffeeholic:
IndigoJo:
I regularly drive a Scania truck which is miscalibrated so that it thinks it’s doing 56 when it’s doing 53, and the speed limiter doesn’t work when the truck’s going down hill…It’s not supposed to work when the truck is going down a hill. The speed limiter is only designed to prevent the vehicle being powered byond the set limit. Gravity and momentum trump the limiter every time.
Not every time. Some trucks use the engine brake to stop overspeeds when going downhill (most MAN trucks for instance). I don’t think the engine brake even works on this Scania.
kavs44:
While we’re on subject of infringements does Maual entry come under the same thing.You have not broken the law and can be proven by checking print out either side of day in question,
you have by accident pushed wrong mode when manually inputting at start of shift.
There is no way of retracting it.
Yes. Technically its worse as you’ve made a false record. I know what you mean about not being able to correct it being not right.
Yeah that can be a ■■■■■ when you get a manual entry wrong. But you nearly always know you have done it. Just take a print out and write on the back that you cooked up, how sorry you are, and you will offer any inspecting officer many ££££ or a clean starfish, which ever they prefer 
Seriously though, not being to edit a manual entry by wiping it and starting again, before you confirm it is ridiculous.
Never got a overspending infringement in my life but my wife has had plenty… boom boom
Too late in the thread? Need to work on my timing?
Note for legal purposes I don’t have a wife
Some companies have telemetry systems (DHL is one I know of) that can monitor the vehicles speed and direction, inc overspending. DHL’s system will catch you over speeding way before the the tachograph flashes. So you don’t have to exceed 60 mph for it to catch you out, you only need to go over 56mph for a set period of time. Keeping it under & constantly keeping an eye on the speedo becomes imperative
F-reds:
Seriously though, not being to edit a manual entry by wiping it and starting again, before you confirm it is ridiculous.
But you can wipe it and start again - that’s what happens if you click “no” when it asks you to confirm it…