nightline:
To be fair your English is absolutely terrible. But hey, after some thought I deciphered some and answered, see above
Well I’m not from England I’m from Ireland and I cant speak Irish so what I am typing is English so maybe you have the reading problem, I mean it looks fine to me are you sure your reading the right post, commas might be off and full stops but its plan English to me,
but saying that its mostly English over here where’s over there its a free for all so I don’t blame you getting confused about understanding English.
I’m with switch logic on this one, most of your posts make no sense to me, have multiple spelling mistakes and poor use of grammar to the point where it becomes impossible to decipher.
Sorry.
Don’t worry about it, you will always get a job driving a truck
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That’s great because we need people like you, as they say to take up the slack and we get the cream
Your not even good at being irish ffs.And i will happly tip my self and wait about for 4 hours am paid by the hour a dont care.
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truckyboy:
I have read all of the answers to the ops post, all are quite sensible answers…however i do agree with the op that we are employed as drivers, not warehouse personnel…the first time i had a tip at Lidl ( crayford ) i sat in my truck for over an hour…till the boss phoned to ask how i was getting on…i told him they hadnt started yet…once he told me to offload it myself…i politely asked him…how much ? i agreed £30…
My point is : Companies advertise for Class 1 drivers…that is DRIVERS…and unless its explained to me that i would be required to unload myself at some places, they will be treated the same…one company i applied for told me i must not, under any circumstances get into the trailer…it was fridges, the staff would put in and take out the restraining bars…
Too many companies are on our backs, trying to speed us up.in order to create more work…too many are making drivers self tip, this is told to customers in order to get the work…at our expense…but sadly not al tell their drivers, as i for one would not self tip…if told at interview, or if advertised i wouldnt apply…each to their own i suppose… Lidl and Aldi are overtaking our own supermarkets…why…because they keep their overheads down, our RDC`s employ loaders/unloaders…those two do not.
Agree with that, prime example being the shop deliveries, I speak to an Aldi driver and some deliveries he is the only person around as most stores don’t have a regular nightshift, warehouse worker and class 1 driver rolled into one you could say. Having to put stock away into fridges etc. Doubt this would happen at Asda, Tesco etc who would probably have a warehouse or atleast shop worker to give you a bit of help etc.
As has been said there clever companies who will do exactly what they can get away with in regards to staff in order to keeps costs down and increase the profits etc. Seems to be working ok as mentioned with them taking market share off the big UK supermarkets. I assume Lidl has a similar set up. Although they use mainly sub contracted haulage which is never going to go as smoothly as an in-house operation such as Aldi especially at the stores I’d think.
Also I think they pay a bit better than other supermarkets for the class 1 drivers so maybe that will help keep driver turnover down (no idea if they turnover a lot of drivers or not).
understand what you are saying dieseldog but lets face it these electric trucks are not exactly rocket science are they,you just have to be careful,the plus side is you don’t have to wait to be tipped,paperwork side has not changed though,you still have wait ages for check off before getting your paperwork back
truckyboy:
I have read all of the answers to the ops post, all are quite sensible answers…however i do agree with the op that we are employed as drivers, not warehouse personnel…the first time i had a tip at Lidl ( crayford ) i sat in my truck for over an hour…till the boss phoned to ask how i was getting on…i told him they hadnt started yet…once he told me to offload it myself…i politely asked him…how much ? i agreed £30…
My point is : Companies advertise for Class 1 drivers…that is DRIVERS…and unless its explained to me that i would be required to unload myself at some places, they will be treated the same…one company i applied for told me i must not, under any circumstances get into the trailer…it was fridges, the staff would put in and take out the restraining bars…
Too many companies are on our backs, trying to speed us up.in order to create more work…too many are making drivers self tip, this is told to customers in order to get the work…at our expense…but sadly not al tell their drivers, as i for one would not self tip…if told at interview, or if advertised i wouldnt apply…each to their own i suppose… Lidl and Aldi are overtaking our own supermarkets…why…because they keep their overheads down, our RDC`s employ loaders/unloaders…those two do not.
Agree with that, prime example being the shop deliveries, I speak to an Aldi driver and some deliveries he is the only person around as most stores don’t have a regular nightshift, warehouse worker and class 1 driver rolled into one you could say. Having to put stock away into fridges etc. Doubt this would happen at Asda, Tesco etc who would probably have a warehouse or atleast shop worker to give you a bit of help etc.
As has been said there clever companies who will do exactly what they can get away with in regards to staff in order to keeps costs down and increase the profits etc. Seems to be working ok as mentioned with them taking market share off the big UK supermarkets. I assume Lidl has a similar set up. Although they use mainly sub contracted haulage which is never going to go as smoothly as an in-house operation such as Aldi especially at the stores I’d think.
Also I think they pay a bit better than other supermarkets for the class 1 drivers so maybe that will help keep driver turnover down (no idea if they turnover a lot of drivers or not).
apparently its £140 a day for one drop,£170 a day if you do 2 drops [so I have heard]
truckyboy:
I have read all of the answers to the ops post, all are quite sensible answers…however i do agree with the op that we are employed as drivers, not warehouse personnel…the first time i had a tip at Lidl ( crayford ) i sat in my truck for over an hour…till the boss phoned to ask how i was getting on…i told him they hadnt started yet…once he told me to offload it myself…i politely asked him…how much ? i agreed £30…
My point is : Companies advertise for Class 1 drivers…that is DRIVERS…and unless its explained to me that i would be required to unload myself at some places, they will be treated the same…one company i applied for told me i must not, under any circumstances get into the trailer…it was fridges, the staff would put in and take out the restraining bars…
Too many companies are on our backs, trying to speed us up.in order to create more work…too many are making drivers self tip, this is told to customers in order to get the work…at our expense…but sadly not al tell their drivers, as i for one would not self tip…if told at interview, or if advertised i wouldnt apply…each to their own i suppose… Lidl and Aldi are overtaking our own supermarkets…why…because they keep their overheads down, our RDC`s employ loaders/unloaders…those two do not.
Agree with that, prime example being the shop deliveries, I speak to an Aldi driver and some deliveries he is the only person around as most stores don’t have a regular nightshift, warehouse worker and class 1 driver rolled into one you could say. Having to put stock away into fridges etc. Doubt this would happen at Asda, Tesco etc who would probably have a warehouse or atleast shop worker to give you a bit of help etc.
As has been said there clever companies who will do exactly what they can get away with in regards to staff in order to keeps costs down and increase the profits etc. Seems to be working ok as mentioned with them taking market share off the big UK supermarkets. I assume Lidl has a similar set up. Although they use mainly sub contracted haulage which is never going to go as smoothly as an in-house operation such as Aldi especially at the stores I’d think.
Also I think they pay a bit better than other supermarkets for the class 1 drivers so maybe that will help keep driver turnover down (no idea if they turnover a lot of drivers or not).
apparently its £140 a day for one drop,£170 a day if you do 2 drops [so I have heard]
Aldi RDC at Atherstone so I am told by someone who has worked there for 25 years, no longer do fridge work there,it is out sourced to Yeardslys and has been for awhile.I would imagine its the same in other Aldi RDCs
truckman020:
understand what you are saying dieseldog but lets face it these electric trucks are not exactly rocket science are they,you just have to be careful,the plus side is you don’t have to wait to be tipped,paperwork side has not changed though,you still have wait ages for check off before getting your paperwork back
irrespective of what you tip or dont tip,then you have to wait 3 weeks to get your paperwork anyway,so they are only using outsourced free labour i.e. you and me instead of having warehouse lemmings doing the job they should be.an rocket science or not,then i dont think you should be asked,coerced,coaxed,or blackmailed into tipping trucks in someone elses warehouse,and irrspective of whether you do or dont,then rocket science or otherwise,if you take your toes or fingers off,then you shouldnt be put in the position in the 1st place.plus theres always the option of instead of wrecking your own load,then suppose you wreck someone elses,take a door off the shed,or skewer a lemming.last time i was in mulrines,i just had the button flat down and kept wrecking palletts of juice till they told me to fekoff and wait till they loaded me themself…job done for me.
dieseldog999:
last time i was in mulrines,i just had the button flat down and kept wrecking palletts of juice till they told me to fekoff and wait till they loaded me themself…job done for me.
Do that an Aldi, and they’ll tell you to either restack it all on new pallets or they’ll reject the lot.
dave_k:
Agree with that, prime example being the shop deliveries, I speak to an Aldi driver and some deliveries he is the only person around as most stores don’t have a regular nightshift, warehouse worker and class 1 driver rolled into one you could say. Having to put stock away into fridges etc. Doubt this would happen at Asda, Tesco etc who would probably have a warehouse or atleast shop worker to give you a bit of help etc.
Aldi drivers are probably in, on the bay, tipped & reloaded and out of there whilst the Tesco wagon across the road has been sat outside the gate the whole time, waiting to me let in.
dieseldog999:
last time i was in mulrines,i just had the button flat down and kept wrecking palletts of juice till they told me to fekoff and wait till they loaded me themself…job done for me.
Do that an Aldi, and they’ll tell you to either restack it all on new pallets or they’ll reject the lot.
dave_k:
Agree with that, prime example being the shop deliveries, I speak to an Aldi driver and some deliveries he is the only person around as most stores don’t have a regular nightshift, warehouse worker and class 1 driver rolled into one you could say. Having to put stock away into fridges etc. Doubt this would happen at Asda, Tesco etc who would probably have a warehouse or atleast shop worker to give you a bit of help etc.
Aldi drivers are probably in, on the bay, tipped & reloaded and out of there whilst the Tesco wagon across the road has been sat outside the gate the whole time, waiting to me let in.
What’s more efficient?
Agree, they don’t seem to hang about at the stores anyway.
Now we get to another point, as well as loading themselves and tipping themselves and waiting 4 hours for paper work they have a key to let themselves into the shops to tip themselves,
The next step has to be sweeping the floor, what more can I do for you Mr Aldi or Mr Lidl, call yourself truck drivers, not in my time, Nancy boys
nightline:
Now we get to another point, as well as loading themselves and tipping themselves and waiting 4 hours for paper work they have a key to let themselves into the shops to tip themselves,
The next step has to be sweeping the floor, what more can I do for you Mr Aldi or Mr Lidl, call yourself truck drivers, not in my time, Nancy boys
You do come out with some old tosh,4 hrs for paperwork,is that why they only do 3-4 local stores a day and still go home in their hours.
I did a self tip at Aldi once, made a nice change to be fair, young lady showed me what all the knobs did and I happily cracked on.
Bit of a queue for paperwork so I went back to me cab, had a brew and a nice chap bought me paperwork to me muttering about how I was supposed to lock me cab and waiting in line for the paperwork was the correct procedure, nice chap but a bit ■■■■ if I’m honest.
In hindsight the risks involved are minimal but they are present especially if some muppet was rushing about.
Can’t really do this on the boxes I’m on without written permission or a decent bung so doubt I would do it again.
Made a nice change though.
Surely operating an electric pump truck should be fairly easy for an experienced LGV driver? Yes the likes of LIDL and Aldi save money on warehousing etc, and surprise surprise this is reflected in their cheaper prices.
098Joe:
Surely operating an electric pump truck should be fairly easy for an experienced LGV driver?
Nope, I’m disabled after an accident at work a few years ago and I can’t use a pump truck, electric or manual, I can’t pull back curtains or get in the back to unload/load. So this, ‘tipping is all part of a driver’s job’ is just garbage spouted by able-bodied people who really have no idea what it’s like to be a raspberry ripple.
I need a job that’s sitting down, so I can drive and that’s about it. If I didn’t have my current job, I’d be on the dole and on disability benefits and being a drain on the welfare state but at least I’m working and paying my own way.
If I ever was sent to a self-tip place, I’d hobble around with my walking stick, making a right scene, so in the end, they’d have to tip it themselves or reject the load…and I’d like to see the reason for that on the POD.
‘Load rejected…due to disabled driver not tipping load.’
nightline:
Now we get to another point, as well as loading themselves and tipping themselves and waiting 4 hours for paper work they have a key to let themselves into the shops to tip themselves,
The next step has to be sweeping the floor, what more can I do for you Mr Aldi or Mr Lidl, call yourself truck drivers, not in my time, Nancy boys
You do come out with some old tosh,4 hrs for paperwork,is that why they only do 3-4 local stores a day and still go home in their hours.
Nightline is probably talking about drivers delivering into ALDI rdc’s, not Aldi’s own drivers.
Another thing I’ve noticed is that the Aldi trucks and trailers seem to be a lot newer than other supermarket fleet spec stuff. I see a few Tesco scabby looking tractor units and Asda and Tesco trailers can be pretty rough. Aldi stuff seem to get replaced a lot more regular, which is obviously a bit better for the drivers. Maybe a bit like Sainsbury’s who used to have a lot of older stuff that was no doubt costly to repair etc and decided to change fleet policy, Sainsbury’s kit looks quite fresh nowadays.
dieseldog999:
last time i was in mulrines,i just had the button flat down and kept wrecking palletts of juice till they told me to fekoff and wait till they loaded me themself…job done for me.
Do that an Aldi, and they’ll tell you to either restack it all on new pallets or they’ll reject the lot.
I wasn’t tipping myself…i was loading myself ,which I couldnt be bolloxed doing as there were plenty of their own lemmings hanging around,hence after I wrecked a sizable number of pallets of juice,then they saw sense in keeping me away from the pallet trucks and had me out of there…all they had in the bit I was loading in was electric trucks…
While on the Continent it’s more common to self tip, I would like to see a “Risk assessment” and “method statement” from my company if requested to tip myself.
In the tanker world it’s a normal thing and most places are (or at least should be) risk assesst by a competent person.
I case of a LTI, I would like to think that the first thing is where the HSE will ask for, is a training record, risk assessment, and a method statement.
After that, they will check if there are instructions for the correct PPE and if all the parties used the correct PPE.
And yes I know operating an electric pallet truck is child play (and have it done plenty of times)
But in case of an incident, it becomes something a lot more complicated.
Even if you off-load with a hand pallet truck, the job must be assessed to see if you not exceeding the weights you maximal can pull, and the traction you have on the floor.
To just jump in could be a funny affair if something happen, judges may or may not look different at your more than helpful aproach.
And we know all, when it cost money, people can never remind that they give you that instruction.
It’s defiantly worth to look into, before diving in head first.
