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I woudn’t be so sure about that.

The advent of social media that is still very much a “work in progress” these past three years in particular - will continue to have a MASSIVE effect on elections, and their run-up.

Look at how Social Media absolutely crushed Mays “Non-Campaign” in last year’s election for starters? If nothing else, Corbyn for all his faults - got out on foot, and conducted an actual proper campaign. There is absolutely no chance that he and other loons in the Labour Party will be losing their seats any time soon either. The same cannot be said of say, Boris Johnson and Theresa May however.

John McDonnell supporters are already active in Boris Johnson’s next door constituency, and we already see how dramatically Boris’ poll was weakened in what was supposed to be a “Tory Safe Seat”.

I’m suggesting that Social Media campaigns will have MUCH more of an effect on future election results - than we’ve seen so far.

The Establishment realize this of course, and are already hard at work trying to crush dissenting social media campaigns of any sort “considered anti-establishment” - out off the internet pages.
Meanwhile, with the information leaking out so Mainstream Media cannot “manage” it quite so well any longer - All UKIP have to do to drum up further support is keep on telling the truth about stuff, get called all the usual names for doing so, - and end up getting the sympathy vote, if nothing else!

It is also worth pointing out that the British Public were quick enough to vote UKIP as “The Largest Party” in the last EU MEP elections, which left our UK political map looking like this at that time…


Imagine that being reflected upon the next election with UKIP getting an “Anger” vote like it has never had before?

On effect of “Brexit not being done in time” is that Britain will still be eligible for another round of MEP election as well. I don’t think the British People would bother much what that though, choosing instead to just start kicking out prior “safe seat” mainstream politicians of the top four main parties as it stands.

Contrary to popular belief, there are Brexiteers in Scotland, among the Libdems, and of course among Labour and Tory grass roots supporters in particular.

Condense that 48% support for Remain back into the original 1% elites stage-managing the entire issue of Brexit and “why we must never be allowed to have it” - and more people will realize how they’ve been had by the constant stream of lies and mis-information regarding the effects of both the EU during the years we’ve been in it, and the effects of Brexit - once it is actually DONE.

Carryfast:

tommy t:
War criminal B-liar AKA CHARLES LYNTON, MIRANDA Was PM back then or was it brown?

As for UKIP they will not deal with the problems that ISLAM presents even Gerrard batten won’t Farage no chance he is now too PC,
For Britain is who I will hopefully be able to vote for because AMW will deal with these problems, as well as other issues

Blair wasn’t in power in 2014.While the clue is the title ‘Royal’ Navy not Blair’s Navy or in this case Cameron’s and Clegg’s Navy.IE the ‘Royal’ prerogative has and maintains ultimate command of the armed forces.If the Queen had said no take him back and force him and all the others ashore at gun point that’s what they’d have done :bulb: :wink:

As for Batten won’t deal with the Islamic issue.Why do think that ?.IE Nuttal and Farage are history and Batten is leader.On that note obviously no Batten leadership no UKIP then For Britain obviously becomes the only choice.

youtube.com/watch?v=VLAWRZeF2tU

youtube.com/watch?v=70QXljsFkdk

youtube.com/watch?v=A4Vk8ZrdoVM

youtube.com/watch?v=gMdgodYogp8

It was Globalist B-liar who created the problem that started the flow of savages from the ME and his letterbox mouthed sub human rights lawyer of a wife milked the state at every opportunity preventing deportations, He started this bs, helped by Soros & his crooked NGO’s

And as for batten, he called AMW and all those who support her racists, for her being photographed with Tommy Robinson who’s name he has been using whilst he has been in prison to garner support, he doesn’t care and he may leave next year and retire or not win the next leadership, Then there is UKIP’s financial backers and NEC to keep happy i don’t see them allowing batten if he wanted to seriously take on Islam and actually achieve real changes

del trotter:

Carryfast:
Not at all.One seat for almost 4 million votes while the SNP get 56 seats for less than 1.5 million votes or Labour’s 232 seats for 9.3 million votes just says more about our electoral system than UKIP being supposedly ‘too fringe’. :unamused:

Makes bugger all difference when that 4 million is a collection of loons spread out across the country, the Parliament election system is first past the post which UKIP will never achieve in any meaningful number.

Remainers supporting UK’s antiquated electoral system over European type PR because it suits their purpose.Just like like Kahn claiming self determination for the London remain vote in support of EU Federal rule over the country.You couldn’t make it up.No surprise as a full on EUSSR supporter you couldn’t give a zb about that anyway obviously preferring the rule of the EU’s Politburo elite and not wanting anything as inconvenient as democracy to stand in your way.

Democracy is ‘supposed’ to be all about numbers of votes not the concentration of the Soviet Socialist vote in London for example.No surprise that you’d prefer the idea of just branding your opposition as loons and forgetting all about democracy.That worked well when the similar Soviet JNA rabble,just like the remainers here,tried the same thing in Yugoslavia.On that note first past the post is a red herring anyway in the case of the example of the SNP getting 56 seats for less than 1.5 million votes v UKIP’s 1 for almost 4 million votes.

tommy t:

Carryfast:

tommy t:
War criminal B-liar AKA CHARLES LYNTON, MIRANDA Was PM back then or was it brown?

As for UKIP they will not deal with the problems that ISLAM presents even Gerrard batten won’t Farage no chance he is now too PC,
For Britain is who I will hopefully be able to vote for because AMW will deal with these problems, as well as other issues

Blair wasn’t in power in 2014.While the clue is the title ‘Royal’ Navy not Blair’s Navy or in this case Cameron’s and Clegg’s Navy.IE the ‘Royal’ prerogative has and maintains ultimate command of the armed forces.If the Queen had said no take him back and force him and all the others ashore at gun point that’s what they’d have done :bulb: :wink:

As for Batten won’t deal with the Islamic issue.Why do think that ?.IE Nuttal and Farage are history and Batten is leader.On that note obviously no Batten leadership no UKIP then For Britain obviously becomes the only choice.

youtube.com/watch?v=VLAWRZeF2tU

youtube.com/watch?v=70QXljsFkdk

youtube.com/watch?v=A4Vk8ZrdoVM

youtube.com/watch?v=gMdgodYogp8

It was Globalist B-liar who created the problem that started the flow of savages from the ME and his letterbox mouthed sub human rights lawyer of a wife milked the state at every opportunity preventing deportations, He started this bs, helped by Soros & his crooked NGO’s

And as for batten, he called AMW and all those who support her racists, for her being photographed with Tommy Robinson who’s name he has been using whilst he has been in prison to garner support, he doesn’t care and he may leave next year and retire or not win the next leadership, Then there is UKIP’s financial backers and NEC to keep happy i don’t see them allowing batten if he wanted to seriously take on Islam and actually achieve real changes

Firstly the Queen is the ultimate command in the case of the armed forces and the defence of the country.Which the question of bringing in people like Salman Abedi rather than forcing them back at gun point certainly comes under.She could also easily trump any of the bollox which Blair imposed in that regard.In this case to the point of the scenario which I described.She could also have used/commanded the military to impeach parliament on grounds of handing the country to a foreign power in the form of the EU.IE the military is loyal to and owes its allegiance to the Queen not Heath or Blair or Cameron or Clegg or May.

On that note ‘if’ you want to question Batten’s approach it’s the issue of not taking on the Royals over the question of what is the Queen doing and who is she actually working for and why in that regard.However I’ve also heard nothing from For Britain in that regard either.As for the UKIP NEC if they weren’t for taking on Islam then they obviously wouldn’t have unanimously backed Batten’s leadership.While if he didn’t support Robinson in that regard he obviously wouldn’t have backed Alan Craig’s comments at the court and there wouldn’t be people like me who sympathise with AMW but think,that as it stands,Batten is the only credible leader for us all and it’s time for For Britain to back down and defer to UKIP’s leadership in realising it.

Carryfast:

del trotter:

Carryfast:
Not at all.One seat for almost 4 million votes while the SNP get 56 seats for less than 1.5 million votes or Labour’s 232 seats for 9.3 million votes just says more about our electoral system than UKIP being supposedly ‘too fringe’. :unamused:

Makes bugger all difference when that 4 million is a collection of loons spread out across the country, the Parliament election system is first past the post which UKIP will never achieve in any meaningful number.

Remainers supporting UK’s antiquated electoral system over European type PR because it suits their purpose.Just like like Kahn claiming self determination for the London remain vote in support of EU Federal rule over the country.You couldn’t make it up.No surprise as a full on EUSSR supporter you couldn’t give a zb about that anyway obviously preferring the rule of the EU’s Politburo elite and not wanting anything as inconvenient as democracy to stand in your way.

Democracy is ‘supposed’ to be all about numbers of votes not the concentration of the Soviet Socialist vote in London for example.No surprise that you’d prefer the idea of just branding your opposition as loons and forgetting all about democracy.That worked well when the similar Soviet JNA rabble,just like the remainers here,tried the same thing in Yugoslavia.On that note first past the post is a red herring anyway in the case of the example of the SNP getting 56 seats for less than 1.5 million votes v UKIP’s 1 for almost 4 million votes.

I’m sure Democrats in America were convinced that the “First past the post” nature of the Electoral College - would keep their candidate in power, despite their votes being a bit spread out compared to the Republic strongholds. It didn’t quite work though, and Trump benefited from the very system designed to keep upstarts out originally!

Something similar could happen in this country, but there are a number of factors that need to come together to make it happen:

(1) IF UKIP voters “Protest voted” Labour to “give Theresa May a fright” at the election last year - there is a good chance they will go back to UKIP at the next election.

(2) Current supports of the EDL and BNP “Traditional” Far Right Parties - will need to stop “splitting the vote” - and give UKIP a go as "the best chance they have of getting any Right Wing involvement in Government.

(3) Disenfranchised Libdem supports who persisted in voting Libdem last year - now realize that voting Libdem cannot and will not support anyone but Remainers. I believe it is a MYTH that 100% of current Libdem voters are “Remainers” however. If I’m correct, there is another source for a “UKIP boost” there.

(4) Right Wingers like myself who decided to vote Tory (to keep Labour out) now realize as we do that “there was no need to hold our noses, and continue voting for remainers in power”. Next time around - It’s UKIP all the way for this group, of which I’m part of, of course. :sunglasses:

(5) People who don’t normally vote. Either they have become sold on Brexit being “sped up” by this point, or decide that now is the time for a “protest vote” of their own - just to get involved, as it were. Such people would be voting UKIP south of the border - but SNP in Scotland - meaning that UKIP might yet surge - but STILL not get involved in a coalition…

(6) Young People aged 16 & 17 last year - will be over 18 by the time the next election is called, the earliest likely to be May 2019. Once again, it is a MYTH that “100% of young people are Remainers”. We used to call a certain group of youngsters “The Young Conservatives”…
These days though, - according to this guy…

“Conservatism is the new Counter-Culture”. (Warning - Contains a single ‘zb’ in the eight-minute video)