No more honeymoon period for EV owners

There are a couple more battery breakthroughs going on at present, VW backed Gotion solid state battery pack

“The Jinshi Battery, developed over eight years, was first unveiled in May 2024. It uses a sulfide-based solid electrolyte and features several material innovations, including micronised electrolytes, ultra-thin coated single-crystal cathodes, and three-dimensional mesoporous silicon anodes. According to Gotion, the cell reaches an energy density of 350 Wh/kg, about 40% higher than mainstream ternary lithium batteries. It passes rigorous safety tests, including a 200°C thermal chamber, nail penetration, and crush tests.”

“The Jinshi Battery’s performance supports more than 3,000 charge cycles and a projected one-million-kilometre lifespan. The pack system achieves an energy density of 280 Wh/kg, enabling an estimated 1,000 km driving range per charge”

A Chinese solid state battery is well underway with a 100kg traction pack weight with a 1000kms range, and British firm YASA have electric motors already in production with Mercedes that weigh 13kgs with 738bhp.

You could put one on each wheel to do tank turns. :astonished_face: World record for UK-based Yasa after it creates a 13.1kg motor that can produce 738bhp | Autocar

On the contrary. Anyone who can afford and appreciate a car like that has no need to be a tw at.

It’s the entitled mid range Audi/BMW/4x4/SUVs (delete as appropriate) w ankers who think they’ve got something to prove that spoil it.

Oh well I suppose I’ll charge my MG5 up today from 12/3pm on :octopus: free energy

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Fella who writes motoring article in daily mail had an interesting article last week.
He’s a fan of electric cars had one for years.
He went away for weekend to some function/event.
His car needed charge up.
He went local BP pulse one was not working one accepted his card but nothing happened another was out of order..
So low on range he went to another station up the road wasnt BP pulse.
Spent half an hour messing around apparently you have to down load an ap then create passwords then link account to your bank for payment etc.
He gave up as was to complicated.
So was forced onto motorway services and charged up at 90p kWh and cost him £85 to charge up.
And he reckons for that price could got twice as far in a petrol equivalent
And he said he’s a fan of electric but the network is rubbish and can’t cope and becoming expensive

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Dead brands walking? It’s like a funeral procession of European car brands walking into the abyss.

Stellantis factory shutdowns in France, Italy, Germany, Spain & Poland. Due to tariffs, Emission fines & slow demand, again read TOO EXPENSIVE & lagging way behind Chinese BEVs.

“Stellantis faces potential fines of up to €2.5 billion (approximately $2.95 billion) from the European Union if it fails to meet strict carbon emissions targets between 2025 and 2027. The company has warned that it may need to close factories if it cannot significantly increase its sales of electric vehicles to comply with these regulations.”

VW are staring at a €11billion cash flow black hole just to keep the lights on past 2026 despite factory closures/shutdowns & tens of thousands of job losses as tariffs bite.

Nissan UK turned a £31.9 million profit to a £67.2million loss last year & is now scrambling to team up with BYD to pool their CO2 emissions for this year.

Too many mouths to feed in the VAG & Stellantis groups, they can’t sell ICE cars in the numbers they need any more to make a profit & in their biggest car market China, sales have fallen off a cliff. Porsche sales down 99% this year. :open_mouth:

Plus the upcoming chip shortage caused by the vassal Dutch, It’s like cutting off your nose to spite your face, the Dutch cure is proving worse than the disease.

Oof! Porsche losses of $1.1billion in Q3 :open_mouth:

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Newcastle-upon-Tyne council coining it in. :astonished_face:

Top 10 councils issuing the most fines for EV bay misuse (2020–2025)

• Newcastle upon Tyne City Council – 19,404 fines

• Coventry City Council – 15,261 fines

• Westminster City Council – 13,511 fines

• Surrey County Council – 5,740 fines

• Hammersmith and Fulham Borough Council – 5,366 fines

• Camden Borough Council – 5,301 fines

• Ealing Borough Council – 5,250 fines

• Haringey Borough Council – 5,121 fines

• Wandsworth Borough Council – 4,465 fines

• Bexley Borough Council – 4,330 fines

Guess misuse means parking there in a non ev using it as a parking space?

If so I wish they would do the same to disabled spaces people without a badge or using someone else’s badge just to nip Into asda

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Yeah, ICE cars parking in EV charging bays, known as icing.

Half the time EV’s on charging points aren’t hooked up to the cash extractor!
Anyway, don’t see why EV’s need special parking bays unless it’s because they are such bad drivers they need the extra wide bays :rofl: Just get longer cables, job done.

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Hey Hey Hey, WTF!!! Here we are again with being told to use one type of fuel then taxing it to heck, now it’s the BEV’s turn. The bloody barstewards. https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fleets-fear-hit-in-autumn-budget-as-chancellor-signals-tax-rises

There is one thing we can be sure about and that is, this is only the start of it

There will be a time when electric cars will cost the same if not more than what it costs to run a petrol or diesel now

As the saying goes there is plenty of meat on the bone

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The statement follows a report in the Daily Telegraph, that the Budget would include a new pay-per-mile charge for electric vehicles.

According to the Telegraph EV drivers could be charged 3p per mile, on top of other road taxes, amounting to an extra £12 on a journey from London to Edinburgh. Drivers of hybrid cars would also be charged, but at a lower rate.

Yes certainly puts me off a ev , theyl make them as expensive to run as diesels in the not to distant future .

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Yeah, lots going on at present with everything going up. A lot of the EU/UK regulations about emissions are being watered down & pushed back as I type, Even the main electric truck manufacturers like Mercedes, Volvo, Renault are wanting to push back the 2040 date. It was all well & good when Europe/UK had cheap Russian gas, that’s all changed now & Europe/UK haven’t a cat in hell’s chance of competing with anybody with these high energy prices. I was emailing with a yank who has lived in China for 15 years & asked him how much does he pay for electricity there, he says it’s peanuts here, 7cents/kWh, how are Europe going to compete with those cheap energy prices.

I don’t hold much hope of them keeping the tax on petrol/diesel as it is either with that black hole in missing taxes.

The new regulations on building & transport emissions has been pushed back from 2026 to 2028. It means if you’re heating a building with gas you would be paying higher bills as the energy company supplying it would have to pay for carbon credits on the ETS (emission trading system)

I watched a video yesterday of the alternative to a gas boiler, as they can’t be installed in new houses any more. It’s an electric boiler with LFP batteries in it that would charge on cheap overnight electricity rates, It would be mega expensive to run otherwise.

At one time they were looking at how to get the same weight but with a shorter life span

On radio said may start at 3 p but quickly rise until it costs as much to run a ev as a diesel

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You’re right, almost every local authority in the UK is as good as bankrupt, the treasury will get whatever they can in taxes from everywhere they can.

If you look at these EV charging bays side on, they look like a cat charger :rofl:

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The government is broke.

It’s pulling every move out to grab cash from the people.

Citroën’s 2026 DS Pallas EV is a through back to the 60s model. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: I wonder if AI designed this, It’s got that look about it?