Night out tax free allowance

Cadge ? I bought the coffee last time…

stu675:

LisasGuy:
We get £45 per night out plus £25 food allowance plus all parking paid for.
If you park at services that do £10 food vouchers you then have £35 food allowance.

Why is Trucknet full of* posts like this? To be of any use it could say:- At Stobarts, we get…etc. Then we could go and work at Stobarts, or at least say to our boss, look this £20 a night you pay doesn’t match against Stobart’s rather than “doesn’t match against someone I once heard of claiming to get more”

*full of - so not just you, Mr Lisa

As OwenMoney says. It’s not always advisable to flaunt the company name on social media.

Also the figures I have quoted are correct and that’s only part of the bonuss we get which recently had private health care added to it.
Not all truck driving jobs involve ■■■■■■■■ in a hedge.
I’d suggest you have a look at Croygenic tanker work.

Its just that “0wenMoney” and “LisasGuy” doesn’t give a lot away to track you down and hold you to account.
But fair enough, it was stated on my assessment too.

stu675:
Its just that “0wenMoney” and “LisasGuy” doesn’t give a lot away to track you down and hold you to account.
But fair enough, it was stated on my assessment too.

OwenMoney and myself both work in Croygenics, The decent Croygenic companies pay well and offer good perks as it takes alot of time and money to train a driver to a decent standard so the company will look after the drivers better than most other work as they don’t want them to leave.

What was stated on your assessment ?

LisasGuy:

stu675:
Its just that “0wenMoney” and “LisasGuy” doesn’t give a lot away to track you down and hold you to account.
But fair enough, it was stated on my assessment too.

OwenMoney and myself both work in Croygenics, The decent Croygenic companies pay well and offer good perks as it takes alot of time and money to train a driver to a decent standard so the company will look after the drivers better than most other work as they don’t want them to leave.

What was stated on your assessment ?

I assume that is cryogenics?
Good to hear there are industries happy to share the money around a bit more with all the labour involved in the industry.
Long may it continue & I suggest highlighting good company practices (as others mentioned) will help improve our lot rather than bring their standards down.

I assume that is cryogenics?
Good to hear there are industries happy to share the money around a bit more with all the labour involved in the industry.
Long may it continue & I suggest highlighting good company practices (as others mentioned) will help improve our lot rather than bring their standards down.
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Yes sorry Cryogenics, plenty of companies pay well and offer lots of different perks, they also look after drivers and this was before the recent shortage.
You just have to know who they are…

LisasGuy:

stu675:
Its just that “0wenMoney” and “LisasGuy” doesn’t give a lot away to track you down and hold you to account.
But fair enough, it was stated on my assessment too.

OwenMoney and myself both work in Croygenics, The decent Croygenic companies pay well and offer good perks as it takes alot of time and money to train a driver to a decent standard so the company will look after the drivers better than most other work as they don’t want them to leave.

What was stated on your assessment ?

Ahhh! Thanks! I guess if you can’t mention the company, at least that you are in a specialist industry with specialist extra training explaining the discrepancies to everyone else.

I had about 50 pages to glance over and sign to confirm acceptance and one point was to keep the green partnership name off social media. ( Not the supermarket, but the other side)

Ahhh! Thanks! I guess if you can’t mention the company, at least that you are in a specialist industry with specialist extra training explaining the discrepancies to everyone else.

I had about 50 pages to glance over and sign to confirm acceptance and one point was to keep the green partnership name off social media. ( Not the supermarket, but the other side)
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Decent Cryo companies include BOC, Air Products Flogas and Air Liquide there are a couple of others but they think Cryo work is the same as pulling corn flakes and you get treated as such.

3 out of the 4 mentioned have vacancies in various locations on Indeed

As I’ve just finished my summer work with a company where the odd night out happened. They put my n/o money through the tax system. I was told that I can claim this back on my self assessment. Is this everybody’s /anybodies experience? And is it as simple as entering an amount on a particular line on the form?

I should be at least £60 your with your truck for at least 9 hours and you can not do as you please…£30 your having a laugh :smiling_imp:

ScaniaUltimate:
Excellent idea.
I don’t believe it will necessarily encourage people to return to the industry, but it could help persuade ‘days only’ drivers to consider tramping.
I suspect new young drivers tempted in by money will be less likely to want to do tramping than previous generations of young drivers, who joined with a genuine desire to do the job, therefore it may help there too.
£30 sounds a lot better than £26.20, despite being a modest increase.
Getting even that will be difficult, but I would still prefer it to be closer to £40 to a least give drivers a reasonable chance of covering the cost of a room if preferred.

It depends on what type of nights out it is.
If it’s the result of insufficient duty time to cover a lot of local drops in a shift nothing will incentivise that.
If it’s not enough driving time in a shift to cover a lot of distance work, then the quality of the work by comparison will make the difference in night out money moot.
The transport policy which is heading the industry’s way will remove most if not all of the latter jobs.

All these Cryo companies are now looking for drivers, all over the place.
They have been looking for drivers for months, so what went wrong with these jobs.
They used to be dead man shoes type of jobs, but if I see Air Products, advertising on and off for the last 3 years, and then I read what their drivers write in reviews on indeed, I see another good jobs that has been destroyed.
Same thing with BOC, FloGas.
They just can’t keep drivers.
Do they all have camers facing the driver?

hkloss1:
They just can’t keep drivers.
Do they all have camers facing the driver?

Maybe. I wouldn’t drive a truck with a driver-facing camera and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

This thread is highlighting, once again, why drivers who wish to get into the better work could try and feel their way into specialised sectors, preferably working directly for the manufacturer/supplier.

The drivers on cryo work will be like some others in specialised (and some own account) operations, where the department they are employed in isn’t a haulage outfit as a such and operates nothing like one but instead is the front line in customer service, expected to be up to that task but paid accordingly and their skills respected.

A word of warning to the wise though, just because a job has been good for decades doesn’t mean it will always be like that even if the distribution side is kept in house, as senior management retire and the company replace them (if existing under managers are overlooked for whatever reason), the new brooms might well have come from the usual suspects in UK logistics where the attitude to drivers is at the other end of the scale completely and where these new suits are actually shocked/sickened at the terms and conditions the blue collar staff throughout the company enjoy and unless the people on the top floor keep an eye on them (and up to a point why should they, they employ managers to manage) things can go pear shaped in a short space of time as they seek to morph the operation into the bullying/shambles they came from and know so well.
So, if you manage to get yourself into such a job don’t run away with the idea you’ve got it made and that you’ll never need a union again, but also try not to bring an attitude you as a driver might also have learned previously working for the generally awful logistics sector.

edit, i’m wondering if the question being asked by hkloss1 might be answered in my paragraph above re new management? also like Harry no matter how good the job offer i’m not having a driver facing camera, personal line in the sand for me.

Harry Monk:

hkloss1:
They just can’t keep drivers.
Do they all have camers facing the driver?

Maybe. I wouldn’t drive a truck with a driver-facing camera and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

Amen to that squire.My last outfit unleashed these privacy intruders en-masse but for some reason my own… didn’t quite adhere to the windscreen and l didn’t bother attempting to ‘right the wrong’,just left it recording the ceiling.I was leaving anyway for various health related issues but it was fascinating seeing the firms surreptitious attempts at accelarating the process :slight_smile: with ‘disciplinaries’ rolled out hither and yon.