Coddy:
Aye, but again we are talking about strapped or stiffened with battens etc to carry, no way would you load loose in a bog standard curtainsider, thats asking for problems…
PS, dont ask how I know, it was a long time ago, Continental tyres, A13
It seems a long time since I answered this question about boards and battens, then Buzzard boy posted the picture of the straps over the roof before loading.
Brit Pete has been on a brilliant information crusade about the Germans and the loading laws while we have had to conform to them for at least 3 years. By the way the tyres were loaded by Wincanton Deutchland, Each bay of the trailer had at least 4 boards with at least 3 more intertwined to form a trellis fence
Gavin McArdle:
Somerfields open the trailer at Secruity when leaving the depot for the driver to check that the load is secured with at least 2 straps and 1 bar and security signs to say so.
Gavin
Wooopy do 2 traps and a bar
Should be strapped every 3rd if cages each strap holding 9 cages in total
Yes quite right but unless you have x-ray eyes you can only see the back ones
Here we go tin hat on . I drive curtainsiders every day and strap very few things . I strap chipboard down but that is about it . i pick up paper reels from chatham and deliver them to telford . 26 on there end and have never had one move. I pick up fertilizer from all over the country and deliver to farms in and around shropshire again no straps and nothin moves . I pick up bricks and slabs etc and again i dont strap them down and again i have never had anythin move . Obviously if you drive like flat out things will move straps or no straps . If you go steady and take your time everythin will be fine . just my two pence worth .
This is not a new law, the law was always,’ No load should be secured by it’s own weight’.
we’ve all carried goods without it being secured, you take it steady, but it’s when you have an accident the problems start, especially if something comes through the side and kills somebody.
Wheel Nut:
As for curtains being load-bearing or not.
A similar argument could be used with a tarpaulin. But you wouldn’t drive off with just sheet ties securing the sheet.
Would You?
Over to you George3
Loads of times.
Cement with a diagonal rope over the back, Fert (The glued 1cwt bags, on shrink wrapped pallets nee sheet if it was fine, diagonal rope over the back. Never lost a bag. Fishmeal, or meat and bone meal, roped every hook, fully sheeted, and driven like I was driving my grandma, and it could still be a mess when you stripped the sheets off.
Seriously though, as has already been said, some loads are light enough and self supporting enough, that the curtains will be more than adequate restraint, my most common one nowadays being Bagged sawdust. Others I wouldn’t trust with the standard curtainsider straps, and would use ‘proper’ straps.
It is. surely like most things in life. common sense.
Pages 134 to 137, 142, 179 to 181 are perhaps the most relevant to this discussion. Please note that curtainsiders are treated equally with flatbeds.
dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicle … hicles.pdf
Sec. 16 (page 103) is dedicated to curtainsiders. Pay special attention to the second sentence in the first paragraph and to the sec. 16.3
Either way, the news regs do not seem to be that new.
