Mirror less as standard is a brave and exciting move by Mercedes. I love the way they’ve implemented too with big mirror shaped screens on pillars. Also love the flat panel displays, about time trucks caught up to cars a bit in the technology stakes.
switchlogic:
Mirror less as standard is a brave and exciting move by Mercedes. I love the way they’ve implemented too with big mirror shaped screens on pillars. Also love the flat panel displays, about time trucks caught up to cars a bit in the technology stakes.
My E-Class has a completely digital display and its awesome.
If you can’t see my… . Oh yeah.
Can’t wait to try this out! No mirrors sound great to me - when it rains they are no good anyway. I can’t be doing with getting out and cleaning them whenever I have to reverse.
I’ll be on the lookout for which companies have some in and will find out what agency they use. Let’s hope Volvo and Scania do the same.
I’m sure the old timers will not like it - and will probably struggle to adapt. But I think it’s great.
LL79:
first they took off suspension and now mirrors?
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Actually pretty ■■■■■■■ accurate, the antos I drive JEEEBUS some of the bumps feels like I’m gonna go through the roof!
sammym:
Can’t wait to try this out! No mirrors sound great to me - when it rains they are no good anyway. I can’t be doing with getting out and cleaning them whenever I have to reverse.I’ll be on the lookout for which companies have some in and will find out what agency they use. Let’s hope Volvo and Scania do the same.
I’m sure the old timers will not like it - and will probably struggle to adapt. But I think it’s great.
if you have one of those air dusters, they are great for getting rid of the water droplets.
It will probably be 5 years before I get to drive one anyway, so I don’t care. But I do like the idea. 
jbaz73:
It will probably be 5 years before I get to drive one anyway, so I don’t care. But I do like the idea.
By the time they are 5 years old they’d have been retrofitted with “old fashioned” mirrors because the cameras will be broken and considered too expensive to replace 
Radar19:
I do like it. Should be interesting to see how it gets on without the mirrors. Hopefully it’ll make going through those Peages in France and Italy a lot less stressful…
You don’t tend to worry about mirrors when you’ve got low belly lockers to wipe out first.
switchlogic:
Mirror less as standard is a brave and exciting move by Mercedes. I love the way they’ve implemented too with big mirror shaped screens on pillars. Also love the flat panel displays, about time trucks caught up to cars a bit in the technology stakes.
Very surprised they’ve offered it as standard, mostly the new stuff is an option for the early adopters, would like to have a go to see how it feels to drive with them.
As for the instruments, I like the digital displays, but always think many of them look like they grafted an iPad onto the dashboard, would like to see them more designed into the vehicle, I first saw one on an MX5 and thought it just looked tacky as it was a pre-production car and would flip up on the production car a bit like the McLaren, although maybe a flip up/over one would send some on here into a fit of rage.
switchlogic:
Mirror less as standard is a brave and exciting move by Mercedes. I love the way they’ve implemented too with big mirror shaped screens on pillars. Also just love the flat panel displays, about time trucks caught up to cars a bit in the technology stakes.
When you consider most trucks are about 100k imo I think they are really poor value for the money. You get the running gear, a cab and a bed, that’s about it for 100k.
sammym:
Can’t wait to try this out! No mirrors sound great to me - when it rains they are no good anyway. I can’t be doing with getting out and cleaning them whenever I have to reverse.I’ll be on the lookout for which companies have some in and will find out what agency they use. Let’s hope Volvo and Scania do the same.
I’m sure the old timers will not like it - and will probably struggle to adapt. But I think it’s great.
There is a button next to the mirror controls that looks a bit like the mirrors are being heated up. If you press it, it heats the mirrors up.
Jimmy McNulty:
sammym:
Can’t wait to try this out! No mirrors sound great to me - when it rains they are no good anyway. I can’t be doing with getting out and cleaning them whenever I have to reverse.I’ll be on the lookout for which companies have some in and will find out what agency they use. Let’s hope Volvo and Scania do the same.
I’m sure the old timers will not like it - and will probably struggle to adapt. But I think it’s great.
There is a button next to the mirror controls that looks a bit like the mirrors are being heated up. If you press it, it heats the mirrors up.
Cheers - I never knew that. I’ll have a go and see if it makes a difference next time it’s raining. I am still excited to try out a mirrorless truck even if this button works well.
Buttons heaters? Don’t need the flapping rags then?
Jimmy McNulty:
sammym:
Can’t wait to try this out! No mirrors sound great to me - when it rains they are no good anyway. I can’t be doing with getting out and cleaning them whenever I have to reverse.I’ll be on the lookout for which companies have some in and will find out what agency they use. Let’s hope Volvo and Scania do the same.
I’m sure the old timers will not like it - and will probably struggle to adapt. But I think it’s great.
There is a button next to the mirror controls that looks a bit like the mirrors are being heated up. If you press it, it heats the mirrors up.
That’s something I only ever did once! Trying to chisel the baked on crap off them afterwards persuaded me to leave them next time. I’d be surprised if I I use them more than twice a year, and that’s only when they mist up after a rapid temperature change. Once they’re clear I switch them straight off again.
Technology for the sake of it, or an actual advancement? I’m undecided, mirrors are simple and effective but they do have some downsides the camera pods won’t.
They won’t cause blind spots, for example, and I know from using a side scan camera that they can give a wider field of view than a mirror, but without as much distortion.
There are downsides too - there is the cost of course, just look at how many hauliers are too tight to buy a full width cab! Though setting them as a standard option is probably to get around that problem.
The quality of the display screens will be important, as will how well they cope in low-light and bright sunlight. I am wary about having that much screen space lit up at night in the cab.
Perhaps this is a function of having used a lower spec sidescan camera, and these will be better, but I found that judging distance was much harder in the screen than in a mirror.
Of course, they’re coming and we can’t stop it. I’m actually surprised that there are no inward and outward facing cameras specced as standard.
Jimmy McNulty:
sammym:
Can’t wait to try this out! No mirrors sound great to me - when it rains they are no good anyway. I can’t be doing with getting out and cleaning them whenever I have to reverse.I’ll be on the lookout for which companies have some in and will find out what agency they use. Let’s hope Volvo and Scania do the same.
I’m sure the old timers will not like it - and will probably struggle to adapt. But I think it’s great.
There is a button next to the mirror controls that looks a bit like the mirrors are being heated up. If you press it, it heats the mirrors up.
That’s the worst thing you can do if you want clear mirrors, all it does it dry the dirt in the water/road spray to the mirror. Never use heated mirrors mirror. Rain X is the best bet
Edit : just noticed this has already been said
Reef:
jbaz73:
It will probably be 5 years before I get to drive one anyway, so I don’t care. But I do like the idea.By the time they are 5 years old they’d have been retrofitted with “old fashioned” mirrors because the cameras will be broken and considered too expensive to replace
Considering the ever lower cost of technology and the extreme cost of a set of mirrors I bet theres hardly that much difference
slowlane:
Technology for the sake of it,
In a nutshell 
A gimmick like most other totally unnecessary electronic crap fitted to today’s trucks.
My immeadite reaction was WHY ?
Great when you’re stuck 300 miles from home for a day + in the Merc d/ship being attended to by an electronics expert when they go wrong, …instead of the apparentlly worse alternative 5 min job of changing a ■■■■ lens.
Brilliant idea 
It’s the same…
Old suspicions with new technology. It’s not good enough, what we have now is ok, it’ll break down and it won’t last are the usual arguments against. In the last 25 years the new develepments we’ve had are air suspension almost as standard for everything, ABS baking systems and automatic gearboxes. All of those were argued against by the older drivers at the time with the previously mentioned reasons. All of those are now the norm for the industry and have made the job a lot better and smoother albeit with an added boredom factor thrown in (you can’t have everything).
Sooner or later I’ll get given the keys to a mirrorless truck and like every other inovation this job has lobbed at me, I’ll kick the tyres, check my paperwork and just get on with it.