Thecritic:
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how and when? can we see this happening then?im up for it then if trucknet can get all the truck drivers together on this then im up for a strike !!,but how can they get all to unite in this? also how can trucknet have the voice of the drivers?they (trucknet) have no political cloat no unoin backing and even less driver backing in this proposed strike, the public see us as truck drivers not nights of the road!,Can you honestly say that trucknet can change our way of life? and give us what we wont? i think not ! please dont preach trucknet policys that they are for truck drivers by truck drivers as there are no written policys as to what is wanted by us and how much backing trucknet can give us the drivers in our needs…so please dont presume that trucknet can and will get us what we all wont,people are leaving loved ones behind to better there lifestyle for the better things in life ,like holidays in the usa and board memberships just so they can live a better life,it would be nice to have some input here from the trucknet directorship on there views on this matter if they are up for it(as they say)■■?
Trucknet is a platform for drivers to make the change that drivers want to!
As far as I know Trucknet is a forum for us drivers to get together and discuss ideas not a diving board to put into actions all ideas we have!
that would be crazy
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but this is your
Odds that exactly what Trucknet is doing!!
i take that as being the posters/membership? and not the opinian or the doing as you say of the trucknet owners then?,so for all your bleating and winging the trucknet website cannot do anything to help the uk drivers get better pay and conditions then??
ive set a poll up we will be able to judge peoples interest by the results of said poll… getting back to (HOW DO WE)… good question critic…lol…but hey any one with the know how or in the know,please post your thoughts here…asto the question of giving up valuable free time, as ive said b4… short term suffering for better long term working conditions and pay…at the end of the day this government is keeping the country going on the CHEAP…
pat, dont you ever get the head against brick wall feeling when it comes to truckers sticking together. never have i known an industry with so many people out for themselves…ive no doubt that should a strike ever take place all these fence sitters and i,m doing nowt brigade would be there saying aye i took part in that. if it wasnt for us… makes me sick really you know…talk about not seeing the wood for the trees…never mind eh…plod on i will.one voice and all that ■■■■■■■■■ day
In the last 7 years I have been employed by two different large Logistics companies. On both occasions, I have seen how ineffective unions are, because the drivers wouldn’t back the union.
At both companies, it was a good turn out if 20% of the drivers turned up for meetings. Also many drivers will not join unions for whatever reasons, so the bosses can always play them against the union.
Legistration means than unions find it very difficult to call strike action that is not directly related to an individual place of work (not company or industry) and are fearful of being sued.
What happened in the strike of 1979!!! I must of missed the benefits it brought to the industry.
The transport industry is already reaping the effects of under investment, in driver well being with the (alledged) driver shortage. Its funny that the companies that won’t pay for driver training are setting up training programmes, because they can’t get drivers?
One little note, the Fuel protest was mainly farmers & owner drivers. Not many if any of the employed drivers joined in (I include myself in that), the company I worked for was very busy trying to re-stock the shelfs that were being cleared by the panic buying and they were also making arrangements to bring in fuel from Ireland & Europe to keep the trucks running. Also I don’t believe that any government would let things get to the same point again, before getting more heavy handed and bringing in the Police and Armed forces(Fire strike comes to mind) to break any blockades etc
You all go on strike then and see how long it takes them to get foriegn nationals in to fill your shoes. DOWNING TOOLS WOULD DECIMATE THE HAULAGE INDUSTRY in my opinion. Not wanting to be a killjoy or stir up bad memories, but where have the pits gone then after the miners strike?
TheBigOne:
You all go on strike then and see how long it takes them to get foriegn nationals in to fill your shoes. DOWNING TOOLS WOULD DECIMATE THE HAULAGE INDUSTRY in my opinion. Not wanting to be a killjoy or stir up bad memories, but where have the pits gone then after the miners strike?
I dont agree!
they are many reasons why some of us would go on strike and one of them would be to stop foriegn trucks from stelling our work!! it would hardly be common sence for the govenment to look at one of the problems to be one of the solutions
Work Shy:
In the last 7 years I have been employed by two different large Logistics companies. On both occasions, I have seen how ineffective unions are, because the drivers wouldn’t back the union.
At both companies, it was a good turn out if 20% of the drivers turned up for meetings. Also many drivers will not join unions for whatever reasons, so the bosses can always play them against the union.
Legistration means than unions find it very difficult to call strike action that is not directly related to an individual place of work (not company or industry) and are fearful of being sued.
What happened in the strike of 1979!!! I must of missed the benefits it brought to the industry.
The transport industry is already reaping the effects of under investment, in driver well being with the (alledged) driver shortage. Its funny that the companies that won’t pay for driver training are setting up training programmes, because they can’t get drivers?
One little note, the Fuel protest was mainly farmers & owner drivers. Not many if any of the employed drivers joined in (I include myself in that), the company I worked for was very busy trying to re-stock the shelfs that were being cleared by the panic buying and they were also making arrangements to bring in fuel from Ireland & Europe to keep the trucks running. Also I don’t believe that any government would let things get to the same point again, before getting more heavy handed and bringing in the Police and Armed forces(Fire strike comes to mind) to break any blockades etc
over the years the drivers have seen unions fight for fair pay and conditions but have never suceeded in getting them,this is why it would be fruitless in going on strike
Are we really not people who would stand together? I really don’t think we would pass a fellow driver by who needed help on the road would we? Nor would we as with the blue ribbon campain ignore the plight of another driver.
If we cannot agree on a three day strike or stopping for 5 minutes then what would we all agree to? perhaps thats where this should go now?
How about at a given time every day of the week we all stop for a said period of time? Making it a longer period of time each subsiquent week?
I think We both know better regarding unions, who because of the new Laws, which stop unions from calling for action across diferant workplaces and are now tied to one employer one action! So we dont really need to go there
agreed critic,but with companies like ours we have depots all over the country,even more so now that dhl are part of us now and who are also part of there union.our main problem is all the depots in scotland tend to stick together something like 83%, but the english depots tend to accept what ever the company offer them. so without there backing we can’t go ahead with what we proposed to do.may it be strike or work to rule as we need the backing from the english depots,so we know that we are all in agreement.i’m mainly talking about the old securicor depots here , not dhl. i don’t know what union they are under. but i’m sure someone will help me on that score.
I read Tonys post about people reading his posts. 800 of them or something.
I read all the other posts as well
OHTERRY i,m doing nowt brigade would be there saying aye i took part in that. if it wasnt for us… makes me sick really you know…talk about not seeing the wood for the trees…
Well I wouldnt say I woz there because I wouldnt be.
Im a truck driver and: I cannot see what you want. Tony has a job in a factory now. The trucknet directors are away so people are using their site to stir something up which will never amount to anything.
Someone else wrote about the unions not having the drivers behind them!
Surely the unions job is to back the drivers not the reverse.
What will happen when you all park up for the day, week, 5 minutes?
Nothing will happen except you will get an even worse name in joe publics eye.
Why should foreign transport companys not do our work if they can do it cheaper and more efficient, that shouldnt be a worry to anyone because the majority run better trucks and pay better wages so they must be doing something different.
We did a lot of the work in Europe when we were cheaper than the Germans or Dutch. The only thing a strike would do is bring in the hoards of immigrant workers you are all scared of. Norbert Dentressangle will be doing Tesco deliverys and the shops will still open
I am not so sure many people here are thinking about this hard enough!
I have heard people say " I wont strike because I am happy with my pay"
Well maybe you are happy and your entitled to be!
Are you happy that more and more of your work is done by foriegn drivers?
Are you happy you have to pay extortinate rates to park your bosses waggon?
or you have to park in a unsafe place?
Are you happy you get unrealistic drop times?
Will you be happy tomorrow? or the day after when your current employers go ■■■■ up?
Would you be happy if after any action only the people who took the action got the deal that ALL Professional drivers should have? leaving you behind?
The only way any action that took place will work, is that the majority of Professional drivers took part!
Wheel Nut:
I read Tonys post about people reading his posts. 800 of them or something.
I read all the other posts as well
OHTERRY i,m doing nowt brigade would be there saying aye i took part in that. if it wasnt for us… makes me sick really you know…talk about not seeing the wood for the trees…
Well I wouldnt say I woz there because I wouldnt be.
Im a truck driver and: I cannot see what you want. Tony has a job in a factory now. The trucknet directors are away so people are using their site to stir something up which will never amount to anything.
What aload of complete and utter rollocks
TONY know what you mean about the poodles man
Someone else wrote about the unions not having the drivers behind them!
Surely the unions job is to back the drivers not the reverse.
What will happen when you all park up for the day, week, 5 minutes?
Nothing will happen except you will get an even worse name in joe publics eye.
Why should foreign transport companys not do our work if they can do it cheaper and more efficient, that shouldnt be a worry to anyone because the majority run better trucks and pay better wages so they must be doing something different.
We did a lot of the work in Europe when we were cheaper than the Germans or Dutch. The only thing a strike would do is bring in the hoards of immigrant workers you are all scared of. Norbert Dentressangle will be doing Tesco deliverys and the shops will still open
so when all the truck drivers are out on strike, what would Tony be doing■■? sitting on his ■■■ in a warehouse with nothing to do drinking tea cos nothing is being delivered■■?
How can someone who is not even a truck driver anymore (am sure I see an earlier post a few weeks ago where he said he had given up) call on everyone to strike??
Just another point … Blair doesn’t listen to his own Government … what makes you think he will listen to a load of truckers??
He wouldn’t be affected by any strike action of ours so he wouldn’t give a toss…he knows he is in enough trouble so whats one more matter to him?
Doh course blair would be affected how the fud could he not be■■?
As for the army , foreign trucks etc suddenly appearing and doing all the work how is that gonna happen ? get real
TONY dude next year you maybe better spending your tenner on a tin of poodle food Got to say man you have alot more people agreeing with you then not.
getting back to (HOW DO WE)… good question critic…lol…but hey any one with the know how or in the know,please post your thoughts here…asto the question of giving up valuable free time, as ive said b4… short term suffering for better long term working conditions and pay…at the end of the day this government is keeping the country going on the CHEAP…
