Mud on roads !

open eyes,
lower speed,
not the farmers fault.
they are out making a living.

altitude:

discoman:

Own Account Driver:

discoman:

Own Account Driver:
I’ve noticed it’s particularly bad this year. In fairness there’s not a lot they can do in the absence of a gravel or hard standing area to clear it off the tyres between the gate to the field and the highway.

it is illegal to dump mud on the road there is a lot they can do it is there property have hoses put there or carry water tanks on the tractor and wash the wheels prior to entering back on to the highway … they deserve points and fines when an innocent motorist is killed or badly maimed due to an ignorant farmer who should know better, truckers get fined if they do it so what makes a farmer different

It’s not going to make any difference, even if they did as you say. Hosing off tyres in the gateway would just make it even muddier. It’s inevitable it gets muddy to some extent around the road where the gate is.

Possibly they could make them buy official red triangle warning ‘mud on road’ or skid risk signs to put out clearly and make them responsible for that.

Sometimes roads are icy and sometimes there might be something like a diesel spill sh*t happens.

Icy roads are a different kettle of fish so is spillages of fuels … facts are the tractor drivers think they are a law unto themselves … even in the summer time I used to be annoyed when you see them with hay going all over the place due to not being bothered with sheets.

Sh*t doesnt happen when it can be avoided … they deserve fines and points on licence … Farmers are there own worse enemies they deserve 6 points for it and massive fines … one will be made an example of.

Very true mate, but one of the problems is the local magistrate will be a big farmer/landowner, so they look after there own. Anyone see a problem in the Hereford area call Street Scene on 01432261800 they will sort it.

I forgot all they are inbred rednecks in the farming industry lol … seriously you are right they do look after there own!

if you’re bothered about mud, then stay in the city.

last sunday morning a car driver was killed on the A638 between South Elmsall and Doncaster, near pearls cafe. He lost control on a large amount of mud on the road, skidded into a wall. he’d just dropped his son off at football practice. the road was still covered on mud on thursday, no attempt at cleaning

scotsdragoon:
last sunday morning a car driver was killed on the A638 between South Elmsall and Doncaster, near pearls cafe. He lost control on a large amount of mud on the road, skidded into a wall. he’d just dropped his son off at football practice. the road was still covered on mud on thursday, no attempt at cleaning

his bad driving skills would have caused his accident, not a bit of mud.

limeyphil:

scotsdragoon:
last sunday morning a car driver was killed on the A638 between South Elmsall and Doncaster, near pearls cafe. He lost control on a large amount of mud on the road, skidded into a wall. he’d just dropped his son off at football practice. the road was still covered on mud on thursday, no attempt at cleaning

his bad driving skills would have caused his accident, not a bit of mud.

And the road is unlit.

I passed through there on Saturday night while coming home from a shift at Asda.

Ken.

with the amount of rain we have had it is near impossible for the farmers to not get mud on the road, the only foolproof way i suppose is road sweepers, but then the car drivers will be complaining about being stuck behind one and the cost i presume would be down to the farmer which would not be feasible financially,

Some of the more sensible farmers do make an attempt to clean the roads up,but some of the young kids driving the tractors on spuds,just tear out of the field with no thought of the mess they are making.

Fairly easy and inexpensive for Farmer/Agri Contractor to buy one of these and mount it on a front bucket or rear link-box:
plantmecireland.com/index.php/ultra-sweep/

We use same when at the Maize or lifting grass when ground is wet and carting it out onto busy roads. :wink:

weve tried one of those on a loadall but to be honest it was,nt much cop, maybe the way we were using it? but it did seem to take the surface mud off but left a thinish covering on the road surface which was more slippery then mud and not as obvious as a covering of mud to a driver…

dle1uk:
weve tried one of those on a loadall but to be honest it was,nt much cop, maybe the way we were using it? but it did seem to take the surface mud off but left a thinish covering on the road surface which was more slippery then mud and not as obvious as a covering of mud to a driver…

i’d agree with that

The problem with tractor or loadall mounted brushes is, they brush the surface but always leave a residue on the surface which is normally more slippery than it would have been had they not touched it. A farmer close to here was working hard trying to sweep the road as his tractors hauled trailers out of the field but all he was did was spread the muck evenly over the road. In fairness to him, he had an extra tractor with a brush on the job which must have cost him a bob or two but it might have been better left alone. I wouldn’t have wanted to ride a motor bike along it after he’d swept the surface.

A group of tractors hauling away from a forager in Wiltshire the other day, made a terrible mess on the road & made no attempt to do anything about it. It was impossible to move on it without generating spray, my nice clean lorry was in an awful mess after using that road & that brassed me right off.

The only way to do the job properly is to employ a purpose built roadsweeper which will have pressurised water bars on it to dilute the muck so it can be picked up. I’m afraid they should be required to do this by law & if it puts the cost of producing the crop up then so be it. How the heck they’re allowed to create a situation by makng the road surface too dangerous for motorists and get away with it is beyond me.

BB

Basilbrush:
The problem with tractor or loadall mounted brushes is, they brush the surface but always leave a residue on the surface which is normally more slippery than it would have been had they not touched it. A farmer close to here was working hard trying to sweep the road as his tractors hauled trailers out of the field but all he was did was spread the muck evenly over the road. In fairness to him, he had an extra tractor with a brush on the job which must have cost him a bob or two but it might have been better left alone. I wouldn’t have wanted to ride a motor bike along it after he’d swept the surface.

A group of tractors hauling away from a forager in Wiltshire the other day, made a terrible mess on the road & made no attempt to do anything about it. It was impossible to move on it without generating spray, my nice clean lorry was in an awful mess after using that road & that brassed me right off.

The only way to do the job properly is to employ a purpose built roadsweeper which will have pressurised water bars on it to dilute the muck so it can be picked up. I’m afraid they should be required to do this by law & if it puts the cost of producing the crop up then so be it. How the heck they’re allowed to create a situation by makng the road surface too dangerous for motorists and get away with it is beyond me.

BB

+1
The quarries up this way have a road sweeper as you described on the go full time when the muck is dragged onto the roads,and that’s after the lorries have been through a wheel wash.
Surely the potato growers could hire one of those on a wet season like this one.

What BB said, the Loadalls’ sweeper attachment is fine for brushing stones and clay lumps into the gutter, but wet mud is simply compressed into the grooves of the asphalt and merely varnishes the surface.

For the road brush to do a good job its best to have a slurry tanker with the spread plate turned upside down spraying water onto the road as well. :wink:
Alot of the time the tanker on it own will suffice. :sunglasses:

We think of it like this:

If a motorist gets badly hurt or God forbid killed due to mud deposited on a road by us “clamp-its” driving the tractors and carts, the Agri Contractor bossman or Farmer or BOTH :open_mouth: could be prosecuted for manslaughter :exclamation: :exclamation: :cry:

mud on the road should be expected when driving/riding in the countryside,as should tractors,horses etc

limeyphil:
if you’re bothered about mud, then stay in the city.

+++1!

Saaamon:

limeyphil:
if you’re bothered about mud, then stay in the city.

+++1!

I have lived in the country all my life.There is more mud on the roads than ever.Obviously this has been a very wet year which has made things worse,but other years there has been a lot of mud,just left and not cleaned up.
One of the main reasons are that the modern tractors and machinery are a lot bigger and heavier,which cause them to drag more mud out onto the roads. If it was a haulier or a builder,they would get fined in court.

every time i see a mud on road sign (living in Norfolk i see a lot of them!)it reminds me of this cartoon from Viz from around 20plus yrs ago

If they can’t see far enough down the road, or round a corner, then why are they doing a speed at which they wouldn’t be able to stop. It is something you should expect on a country road. If, during the winter with patchy ice, do you still go through a corner with speed, or do you drive to the road conditions and slow down, expecting ice?

The quarries I’ve been into have a nice hard standing and/or road leading into the place before you get to a main road. It is not like in a field, then a gate, then a road.

Mud on a road does annoy me, but I couldn’t make any less of a mess if I was doing it.