kr79:
What to do with the bodys of the prostitutes you murder
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the hardest part for me is finding somewhere to buy a shovel,lump hammer,bag of lime and duct tape without security cameras.
dieseldog999:
kr79:
What to do with the bodys of the prostitutes you murder^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
the hardest part for me is finding somewhere to buy a shovel,lump hammer,bag of lime and duct tape without security cameras.
Buy!!! Just look in the back of who-evers parked next to you,and help yourself. 
ibby730d:
eagerbeaver:
Not listening at school.Driving school or school school? because i dont understand why. Yea HGV is not an office job but it certainly pays better than minimum wage and i’m sure you drivers are or can earn average UK salary which is about £28k.
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Difference is the guys in better jobs who earn the 28k are usually working far fewer hours for it than drivers are.
Drivers who boast about their ‘good money’ are on the whole usually too stupid to see they are working a week and a half’s hours for it in comparison to many other better jobs.
My lad works 40 hours and takes home virtually the same (or sometimes more with overtime) than I do.
It stopped being ‘good money’ when drivers let the 40 hours + overtime go in favour of same rate right through in a turkeys voting for Christmas style. . 
(Btw…so it ■■■■ should pay better than minimum wage when you see how much it costs to get a Class1 nowadays)
So my answer to thread title…Too many hours for too little a rate. (Amongst many other aspects of the job and how it has evolved over the years to the worse)
robroy:
ibby730d:
eagerbeaver:
Not listening at school.Driving school or school school? because i dont understand why. Yea HGV is not an office job but it certainly pays better than minimum wage and i’m sure you drivers are or can earn average UK salary which is about £28k.
.Difference is the guys in better jobs who earn the 28k are usually working far fewer hours for it than drivers are.
Drivers who boast about their ‘good money’ are on the whole usually too stupid to see they are working a week and a half’s hours for it in comparison to many other better jobs.
My lad works 40 hours and takes home virtually the same (or sometimes more with overtime) than I do.
It stopped being ‘good money’ when drivers let the 40 hours + overtime go in favour of same rate right through in a turkeys voting for Christmas style. .(Btw…so it [zb] should pay better than minimum wage when you see how much it costs to get a Class1 nowadays)
So my answer to thread title…Too many hours for too little a rate. (Amongst many other aspects of the job and how it has evolved over the years to the worse)
Ah right i understand. But doesn’t time past by quick when on the road? if it does then it shouldn’t be a huge problem doing more hours. I guess you need to love driving for the hours to not matter. Don’t know… need to experience it myself.
Other road users.
ibby730d:
i’m sure you drivers are or can earn average UK salary which is about £28k.
Oh yeah you can but you’ll be doing over 50hrs a week and approaching 60hrs a week to earn it, not the UK average working week of 42hrs.
Planners
Planners seem to think that all drivers want max out their legal hours and have no interest in any life away from the job, even though they get to go home after 8-10 hours. Just because you can work long hours you will get planned for them.
Your an inconvenience to everyone. Other road users, places where you park, deliver something and they won’t want it but often have to take it, go to collect something and your planner will have failed to mention the load isn’t ready for x amount of hours but “just go and try” but then your in everyone’s way.
DVSA out to get you when you haven’t strapped within an inch of its life a light load that’s touching a load bearing curtain.
Getting treated like a child when it comes to health & safety.
Facilities at many places where you have to wait for hours.
Don’t get me wrong I could also tell you plenty of good about the job as well, but you asked for what problems do we face.
ezydriver:
Other road users.
Beat me to it.
And cyclists.
Alfa1M:
You know my pet hate, turning up to a place where you’ve never been before but that’s fine cos your pressing the intercom, but then they raise the gate without even talking over the intercom and your free to enter the compound, not having a clue where your going or what their BS procedure isPetty, yes, annoying, massively
Ha totally with you on that. Morrison’s Northampton I told him what I was there for, he raised the barrier, I said so where do I go? I realise he’s not on the other end anymore. Barrier comes back down, press intercom again then he’s having a fit because he has to raise it for me again
ibby730d:
robroy:
ibby730d:
eagerbeaver:
Not listening at school.Driving school or school school? because i dont understand why. Yea HGV is not an office job but it certainly pays better than minimum wage and i’m sure you drivers are or can earn average UK salary which is about £28k.
.Difference is the guys in better jobs who earn the 28k are usually working far fewer hours for it than drivers are.
Drivers who boast about their ‘good money’ are on the whole usually too stupid to see they are working a week and a half’s hours for it in comparison to many other better jobs.
My lad works 40 hours and takes home virtually the same (or sometimes more with overtime) than I do.
It stopped being ‘good money’ when drivers let the 40 hours + overtime go in favour of same rate right through in a turkeys voting for Christmas style. .(Btw…so it [zb] should pay better than minimum wage when you see how much it costs to get a Class1 nowadays)
So my answer to thread title…Too many hours for too little a rate. (Amongst many other aspects of the job and how it has evolved over the years to the worse)
Ah right i understand. But doesn’t time past by quick when on the road? if it does then it shouldn’t be a huge problem doing more hours. I guess you need to love driving for the hours to not matter. Don’t know… need to experience it myself.
There’s jobs I’ve done in the past where even an 8 hour shift felt long. So yes a 15 hour day where you drive for 9, have 2 hours On breaks and the rest either strapping, opening and closing curtains, or sitting about waiting does pass much quicker than some jobs. But that doesn’t get away from the fact that you’ve only got 9 hours of a 24 hour period left, and your parked up somewhere where someone doing a 40 hour week is home, going to the gym, catching up tv, nipping to the local pub for a pint, spending time with their children, taking the dog for a walk etc etc. That’s all stuff you say goodbye to certainly as a tramper, more often than not on days as well after you’ve done a long shift. Yes a tramper can come out with a good wage but your putting in the hours for it and can see why the divorce rate is so high in this job.
Herpes
I don’t like being treated like an inferior species by people who aren’t very bright. More fool me for becoming a driver.
I’d much rather earn 28k driving a wagon, pushing a steering wheel for 50hrs a week than a flat 40 hrs on a production line, a forklift, or customer facing role god forbid.
What I thinks good about my job and probably most haulage jobs, if your boiler goes or you fancy an exotic holiday… the overtime is always available, I can tramp all week making my own food and pocketing the allowance if I’m that way inclined to save money… I wouldn’t work 60 hrs voluntarily in any other trade that’s for sure.
xichrisxi:
Pushing a ■■■■ out that bit too hard and finding out it wasn’t a ■■■■…
Yep, two early driving career lessons. Never trust a ■■■■ and never trust a grass verge either.