ash 001:
do all petrol stations do this as I would have looked like a right moronThanks in advance
Don’t put PETROL in man ffs 
, or you’ll look an even bigger moron!
Newbies …(He said shaking his head. )
By the man who pulled a trailer handle while parked on an angle with the legs still up many years ago when he was as green as grass 
and had to dodge the sliding trailer coming off the pin towards him 
When I filled up on training, we did not have this issue either.
alix776:
happysack:
Fantastic if you have a phone signalWhy would you need a phone signal
Because Most /or all phone app-navs use your phone carrier /supplier for the signal of the app`s gps , including navigation.
Lose phone signal -lose location update.
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Dedicated sat-navs use satellite gps triangulation.
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Satellite navigation (sat nav) depends on GPS signals to establish the current position of the receiver. Your receiver (your in-car ‘sat nav unit’) also contains a set of road maps. Using GPS and the maps together, it can plan a route between your current position and any selected destination. It can also plot your progress along the route, by constantly updating your position through signals from the GPS satellites.
HTH, 
robroy:
ash 001:
do all petrol stations do this as I would have looked like a right moronDon’t put PETROL in man ffs
Newbies
By the man who pulled a trailer handle while parked on an angle with the legs still up many years ago when he was as green as grass
LOL - FFS don’t ive him ideas or a target to aspire to Robroy, Ash only passed his class 1 on Friday and has yet to drive a class 2 in anger! 
So let’s see how he gets on this week when he starts his Class 2 job.
P.S. He’s an ex Tesco puddle jumper boy, so god knows how he’s taking the ■■■■ out of me! 
The past is the past evil and I will be putting in diesel not petrol I can assure you that, I will pm certain people and let them know how I get on in my first week as I don’t want it to be public 
trux:
alix776:
happysack:
Fantastic if you have a phone signalWhy would you need a phone signal
Because Most /or all phone app-navs use your phone carrier /supplier for the signal of the app`s gps , including navigation.
Lose phone signal -lose location update.
.
Dedicated sat-navs use satellite gps triangulation.
.Satellite navigation (sat nav) depends on GPS signals to establish the current position of the receiver. Your receiver (your in-car ‘sat nav unit’) also contains a set of road maps. Using GPS and the maps together, it can plan a route between your current position and any selected destination. It can also plot your progress along the route, by constantly updating your position through signals from the GPS satellites.
HTH,
Completely wrong unless your phone has only an AGPS chipset . You phone usually has a gps antenna of sIRF v3 or above this means location in your phone has nothing to do with you phones data signal. As you will find most on board gps apps (the maps are stored on your phone) as the ones we have mentioned will work even if your phone is in flight mode with on location services activated this is exactly the same a dedicated satnav unit. Your in car receiver doesn’t hold any mapping at all the same as your phones gps chipset doesnt hold any maps. Yet both gps receivers are accessed in exactly the same way to obtain,plan and show your position on the aps digital map data.
Hope that clears it up for you
I can’t load Google maps without a decent Internet signal. Samsung galaxy s4
That’s because its an off board system ie the maps are stored on your device
robroy:
ash 001:
…(He said shaking his head.By the man who pulled a trailer handle while parked on an angle with the legs still up many years ago when he was as green as grass
Gawd, blinkin amateurs…
Says the bloke who, to save time on his job and finish regular rub, once part dropped his thankfully empty offal tipper trailer whilst filling with Diesel only to hear that unmistakable reverberating clang as it slid off the back of his DAF 2800 (timeline) and hit the deck as he pulled away, at the very moment his boss plus missus drove into the yard, thankyou God…
Course it was on the ■■■■, so had to get a forky out to hold the trailer steady so he could pick it up again to the sound of cheers all round…great.
ash 001:
The past is the past evil
Oh come on mate, we don’t get much comedy based entertainment on here much nowadays. Just think, you could become the new dozy, and gain legendary status 
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albeit for all the wrong reasons
Seriously though, good luck with it, …Take your time DON"T let the ■■■■■■■ s rush you, and if they try the old ‘‘Well the other drivers can manage it’’ Speak up for yourself ( you are allowed and they respect you more) Tell them to ■■■■ off (very politely) because what other drivers do ain’t your concern.
Treat the job like a job, and not a teararsing endurance test. And finally set your own pace, and do NOT attempt to compete or keep up with the heroes and general d/heads in the job (of which there are many)
Some good advice, and it has always worked for me. 
Juddian:
Gawd, blinkin amateurs…Says the bloke who, to save time on his job and finish regular rub, once part dropped his thankfully empty offal tipper trailer whilst filling with Diesel only to hear that unmistakable reverberating clang as it slid off the back of his DAF 2800 (timeline) and hit the deck as he pulled away, at the very moment his boss plus missus drove into the yard, thankyou God…
Course it was on the ■■■■, so had to get a forky out to hold the trailer steady so he could pick it up again to the sound of cheers all round…great.
And you call yourself a driver?
Said the bloke that at 21 looked at the Invoice address on the notes, after picking up a load in Southampton, and took it to Bradford, when the Delivery address was North London. no cabphones then for my irate boss to re.direct me to the screaming waiting customer.
He must have seen some potential in me, …he didn’t sack me
robroy:
ash 001:
The past is the past evilOh come on mate, we don’t get much comedy based entertainment on here much nowadays. Just think, you could become the new dozy, and gain legendary status
albeit for all the wrong reasonsSeriously though, good luck with it, …Take your time DON"T let the [zb] s rush you, and if they try the old ‘‘Well the other drivers can manage it’’
Treat the job like a job, and not a teararsing endurance test. And finally set your own pace, and do NOT attempt to compete or keep up with the heroes and general d/heads in the job (of which there are many)
Some good advice, and it has always worked for me.
I like it, and he’s more suitable for grooming mate, as he’s only 21!
Just be gentle with him!
Great advice there rob, much appreciated, like you sat there is no rush just take your time and make as little mistakes as possible
Nope, i’m not admitting any more on this thread, we’d need a new thread that would last for 20 pages just to list my bollox ups, and that would be the ones i can recall or dare admit to…
Your advice for Ash i agree with, take your time, i always set me stall out when i start a new job, run the job at a pace i could keep up if i did the job till i’m in me dotage…next week… 
if it takes 20 minutes or an hour longer than someone else, it’ll still be less time than it takes to put the mess ups through rushing right.
trux:
Because Most /or all phone app-navs use your phone carrier /supplier for the signal of the app`s gps , including navigation.
Lose phone signal -lose location update.
No they don’t. The phone has a built in GPS receiver. “Power saving” location mode gets a rough guess using the mobile phone networks but high accuracy mode uses the built in GPS receiver.
happysack:
I can’t load Google maps without a decent Internet signal. Samsung galaxy s4
Go to the Play Store. Search for Nokia HERE. Install it. Open it. Go to Download Maps. Download a map of the UK or the EU or the world depending on how much storage you have on your phone. Congratulations you now have a fully fledged offline satnav system for your mobile.
Juddian:
Yep, that’s the whole point, how the hell have these lorry sat navs reached such stupid prices and why are lads prepared to pay out such money…
Because as I found out over a decade ago, the cost of buying a full lot of county A to Zs, city A to Zs and street maps of the odd towns here and there, all of which are out of date before they were even printed, far outweighs the cost of buying a Satnav which covers everywhere in the UK including the places paper street maps don’t and will have regular map updates so will always be more up to date than even a newly released paper map.
Conor:
happysack:
I can’t load Google maps without a decent Internet signal. Samsung galaxy s4Go to the Play Store. Search for Nokia HERE. Install it. Open it. Go to Download Maps. Download a map of the UK or the EU or the world depending on how much storage you have on your phone. Congratulations you now have a fully fledged offline satnav system for your mobile.
Don’t forget here maps is only designed for cars
Juddian:
Nope, i’m not admitting any more on this thread, we’d need a new thread that would last for 20 pages just to list my bollox ups, and that would be the ones i can recall or dare admit to…Your advice for Ash i agree with, take your time, i always set me stall out when i start a new job, run the job at a pace i could keep up if i did the job till i’m in me dotage…next week…
if it takes 20 minutes or an hour longer than someone else, it’ll still be less time than it takes to put the mess ups through rushing right.
Thank you Juddian I need to hear these mistakes as many will interest me and will prevent me from doing the same lol
Juddian:
You mention the Philips tracker atlas Evil, but with all due respect to the publication its not a clear atlas to read, the AA large scale truckers atlas, whilst admittedly a big bugger if you aint used to hefting heavy things
I have looked this up, it is currently ‘on offer’ on AA website if anyone needs it :