I must apologise for cutting the tank off in it’s prime on that picture.
Y’see, I only had a standard negative adaptor for my flatbed scanner at the time, so I could only scan the ‘business-end’ of the combination.
Did XTF sell on eBay? I noticed their LHD 400-series was also up for sale too…
marky:
I must apologise for cutting the tank off in it’s prime on that picture.
Not at all! There is another one showing the tank, but I don’t have it on Photobucket.
240 Gardner:
marky:
I must apologise for cutting the tank off in it’s prime on that picture.Not at all! There is another one showing the tank, but I don’t have it on Photobucket.
It will probably be a scan of the brochure picture then?
Just returned from Jennings!!
240 Gardner:
Limey:
That’s the first decent motor on this thread!
Just here on the off chance there may be a B Series or two in the background 
Bewick:
Just returned from Jennings!!
I see your point about retaining the character Bewick, how does it go, can’t make a silk ■■■■■…? 
Limey:
Bewick:
Just returned from Jennings!!I see your point about retaining the character Bewick, how does it go, can’t make a silk ■■■■■…?
out of a pig’s ear!!! correct! Bewick.
Limey:
240 Gardner:
Limey:
That’s the first decent motor on this thread!
Just here on the off chance there may be a B Series or two in the background
In order to enhance the “modicum of character” of the Mk.2, as I think you put it some time ago?? 
Anyway, wasn’t the B Series designed by an ex-Atkinson man??
marky:
240 Gardner:
marky:
I must apologise for cutting the tank off in it’s prime on that picture.Not at all! There is another one showing the tank, but I don’t have it on Photobucket.
It will probably be a scan of the brochure picture then?
Now I’ve come home and studied the negs, it’s just a different shot without the tank… doh! 
240 Gardner:
Limey:
240 Gardner:
Limey:
That’s the first decent motor on this thread!
Just here on the off chance there may be a B Series or two in the background
In order to enhance the “modicum of character” of the Mk.2, as I think you put it some time ago??
Anyway, wasn’t the B Series designed by an ex-Atkinson man??
I re-call that along with one or two other “dyed in the wool” Atki men we used to refer to the ERF as the “Erfkinson” I know,I know, very insulting!! Cheers Dennis.
Washed off and lined up ready for the new week!
Morning all, Dennis, super photograph, clearly shows how Atkinson had plainly the best mirror set up of any of their rivals. Great vision, and the mirrors did not obscure threequarter vision. Remember how awfull were the Ergomatic and ERF setups!! Oh well off on the tractor now (to hold up some of our executive villagers)! Cheerio for now.
240 Gardner:
[Anyway, wasn’t the B Series designed by an ex-Atkinson man??
Not strictly true.
The B Series was at the end of the day an update of the A Series design chassis, with an all new SP tilt cab fitted.
It is difficult to assertain accurately exactly what input the man in question had to the finished B Series design.
Saviem:
Morning all, Dennis, super photograph, clearly shows how Atkinson had plainly the best mirror set up of any of their rivals. Great vision, and the mirrors did not obscure threequarter vision. Remember how awfull were the Ergomatic and ERF setups…
It was actually Ford that first addressed a rearward visability issue on their D Series cabs with the option of large Western American style of Wingard mirrors - a first in 1965. ERF were next to fit the same style of Western mirror as standard on the 7LV and 8LV cabs followed by PMG / Britax mirrors on Atki and Foden.
240 Gardner:
Stanfield:
Here you go 240…XTF 235N Then & Now.I think I have posted the Taylor one before (my apoligies if so)10And once more, from the factory archives:
Has anyone else noticed how Cannings have dropped the height of the indicators in order to make the signwriting easier?
Take it easy,
David
A similar school of thought to that of W&J Riding, who also ‘tinkered’ with the factory product until they had it how they wanted it… Ridings moved their indicators to the front corners - just above the sidelights.
ERF:
240 Gardner:
[Anyway, wasn’t the B Series designed by an ex-Atkinson man??Not strictly true.
The B Series was at the end of the day an update of the A Series design chassis, with an all new SP tilt cab fitted.
It is difficult to assertain accurately exactly what input the man in question had to the finished B Series design.
Actually, I was thinking about the cab and, more especially, winding up my pal The Limester
Incidentally, though, Frank Whalley did once tell me that the Mk.3 Atkinson would have looked more like the B Series than the 400. Even better, he reckoned that the design for the B Series started out with the Viewline!
240 Gardner:
ERF:
240 Gardner:
[Anyway, wasn’t the B Series designed by an ex-Atkinson man??Not strictly true.
The B Series was at the end of the day an update of the A Series design chassis, with an all new SP tilt cab fitted.
It is difficult to assertain accurately exactly what input the man in question had to the finished B Series design.Actually, I was thinking about the cab and, more especially, winding up my pal The Limester
Incidentally, though, Frank Whalley did once tell me that the Mk.3 Atkinson would have looked more like the B Series than the 400. Even better, he reckoned that the design for the B Series started out with the Viewline!
We are straying into un-charted territory now Chris!! getting into the realms of Mk3 Atki’s—you sure you are not withholding a full set of factory drawings of “The beast” that never was but surely should have been? Dennis.
Bewick:
240 Gardner:
Incidentally, though, Frank Whalley did once tell me that the Mk.3 Atkinson would have looked more like the B Series than the 400. Even better, he reckoned that the design for the B Series started out with the Viewline!We are straying into un-charted territory now Chris!! getting into the realms of Mk3 Atki’s—you sure you are not withholding a full set of factory drawings of “The beast” that never was but surely should have been? Dennis.
Don’t get exited Bewick lad, old Gardners just deluding himself. However the SP cab did soldier on for thirty years or more so wearing the big A might not have been entirely inappropriate for it.
Limey:
Bewick:
240 Gardner:
Incidentally, though, Frank Whalley did once tell me that the Mk.3 Atkinson would have looked more like the B Series than the 400. Even better, he reckoned that the design for the B Series started out with the Viewline!We are straying into un-charted territory now Chris!! getting into the realms of Mk3 Atki’s—you sure you are not withholding a full set of factory drawings of “The beast” that never was but surely should have been? Dennis.
Don’t get exited Bewick lad, old Gardners just deluding himself. However the SP cab did soldier on for thirty years or more so wearing the big A might not have been entirely inappropriate for it.
See, I just knew you couldn’t resist
And, of course, drawn into an Atki thread like a moth to a flame
Well at least we’ll stand a better chance of getting a photo of a Mk 3 Atki than a Big J with an 8LXB!!! Dennis.
